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 December 7, 2022 10:46am EST
Herschel Walker just wrote Donald Trump's political obituary
It is time for Donald Trump to step away from politics

By Liz Peek | Fox News

    Herschel Walker, the Heisman Trophy winner who led the Georgia Bulldogs to a national championship in 1982, just wrote Donald Trump’s political obituary. 

Walker lost his bid to replace Georgia’s incumbent Senator Raphael Warnock, handing Democrats in that chamber a critical majority. A majority which will enable Joe Biden to appoint more judges, enact more legislation and put in place more appointees willing and able to carry out his far-left agenda. Walker was endorsed by former President Trump. 

Having suffered the rare humiliation of failing to win a second term in the Oval Office, and having cost his party a majority in the senate – three times – it is time for Donald Trump to step away from politics. It is the right thing to do for his party, for the country, and for himself. 

Mr. Trump will not win another election. His most glaring political strength today is his ability to energize Democrats, causing not only historic turnout but attracting gushers of campaign cash – for the opposition.

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Re: LIZ PEEK: Herschel Walker just wrote Donald Trump's political obituary
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2022, 05:03:03 pm »
Agree.  Trump's hand picked choices of Oz and Walker came back to bite us.....   And Trump.

This obviously has not helped his political brand.
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Re: LIZ PEEK: Herschel Walker just wrote Donald Trump's political obituary
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2022, 05:09:58 pm »
Idiot managed to say something that can be construed as saying he will sidestep the Constitution, bonkers in any other time and age, and most of his supporters would go apeshit if a Democrat said it, right before the bleep election too.

I want to smack that orange dipshit.

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Re: LIZ PEEK: Herschel Walker just wrote Donald Trump's political obituary
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2022, 05:19:03 pm »
Georgia has never been a Trump State.  The problem here isn't Trump.  The problem here is a thoroughly corrupt GOP that makes deals with the Dems on who is allowed to win elections.  In this last race, the GOP agreed on winning every statewide race in exchange for one US Senate seat.

Have you seen a single protest coming from Stacey Abrams?  Not only did she quit campaigning a month before election day, she actually conceded the race.  She had no post-election party scheduled.  She didn't rent out any hotel ballroom.  There was zero election night coverage of her campaign.  Not only that, she began pulling money out of her campaign chest and diverting it to other funds (ones she has control over) in October.

Stacey Abrams knew what the deal was.  And she accepted it (for future promises).  Expect her to land a job in the Biden regime real soon.
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Re: LIZ PEEK: Herschel Walker just wrote Donald Trump's political obituary
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2022, 05:28:17 pm »
Georgia has never been a Trump State.  The problem here isn't Trump.  The problem here is a thoroughly corrupt GOP that makes deals with the Dems on who is allowed to win elections.  In this last race, the GOP agreed on winning every statewide race in exchange for one US Senate seat.



Speaking of Abrams, it is still really puzzling why Walker so badly underperformed Kemp.   

I think it boiled down to a candidate quality issue.  Walker stunk.
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Re: LIZ PEEK: Herschel Walker just wrote Donald Trump's political obituary
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2022, 05:36:19 pm »
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Another Senate election, another GOP loss. Maybe time for Senate GOP to change direction, craft a new agenda to, you know, appeal to voters.

Just a thought

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Re: LIZ PEEK: Herschel Walker just wrote Donald Trump's political obituary
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2022, 05:36:46 pm »
Speaking of Abrams, it is still really puzzling why Walker so badly underperformed Kemp.   

I think it boiled down to a candidate quality issue.  Walker stunk.

Not true.  Walker far exceeded expectations.  His debate performance was tremendous.  There is no legitimate reason why Walker's numbers did not coincide with Kemp, Jones, Raffensperger, and Carr.  And there is no way the Secretary of State gets more votes than the Lt. Gov or the AG.

Bottom line, there is no plausible way that 200,000 Georgia voters voted for a Republican Gov., Lt. Gov., SoS, AG, Insurance Commissioner, Public Service Commissioner, etc., yet cast a vote for a Democrat US Senator.  No friggin' way.  Georgia elections are fixed.
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Re: LIZ PEEK: Herschel Walker just wrote Donald Trump's political obituary
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2022, 05:51:35 pm »
Not true.  Walker far exceeded expectations.  His debate performance was tremendous.  There is no legitimate reason why Walker's numbers did not coincide with Kemp, Jones, Raffensperger, and Carr.  And there is no way the Secretary of State gets more votes than the Lt. Gov or the AG.

Bottom line, there is no plausible way that 200,000 Georgia voters voted for a Republican Gov., Lt. Gov., SoS, AG, Insurance Commissioner, Public Service Commissioner, etc., yet cast a vote for a Democrat US Senator.  No friggin' way.  Georgia elections are fixed.

Doubt it. I think you're seriously over estimating the amount to which people think like you. People are more willing to split their vote than you realize. Some people even consider themselves morally obligated too.

The "they cheated" as an answer to ever GOP electoral defeat is getting seriously stupid. Time to stop. Grow up and take a serious look at why our candidates are successful in some states and bad in others. Not all candidates are created equal. Walker had serious issues.

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Re: LIZ PEEK: Herschel Walker just wrote Donald Trump's political obituary
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2022, 06:35:36 pm »
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Wow I cant believe political superstar Nikki Haley didn’t get Walker across the goal line


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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2022, 06:37:15 pm »
Not true.  Walker far exceeded expectations.  His debate performance was tremendous.  There is no legitimate reason why Walker's numbers did not coincide with Kemp, Jones, Raffensperger, and Carr.  And there is no way the Secretary of State gets more votes than the Lt. Gov or the AG.

Bottom line, there is no plausible way that 200,000 Georgia voters voted for a Republican Gov., Lt. Gov., SoS, AG, Insurance Commissioner, Public Service Commissioner, etc., yet cast a vote for a Democrat US Senator.  No friggin' way.  Georgia elections are fixed.

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« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2022, 06:38:19 pm »
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Wow I cant believe political superstar Nikki Haley didn’t get Walker across the goal line


9:58 AM · Dec 7, 2022

Well she and General Sherman both weren't too partial to Confederates.......    :thud:
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« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2022, 06:40:57 pm »
Not true.  Walker far exceeded expectations.  His debate performance was tremendous.  There is no legitimate reason why Walker's numbers did not coincide with Kemp, Jones, Raffensperger, and Carr.  And there is no way the Secretary of State gets more votes than the Lt. Gov or the AG.

Bottom line, there is no plausible way that 200,000 Georgia voters voted for a Republican Gov., Lt. Gov., SoS, AG, Insurance Commissioner, Public Service Commissioner, etc., yet cast a vote for a Democrat US Senator.  No friggin' way.  Georgia elections are fixed.

If they are so adept at stealing then why didn't steal them all?  Not saying they don't steal...  they do. But seems a little off, just to pick on Walker.
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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2022, 07:12:57 pm »
If they are so adept at stealing then why didn't steal them all?  Not saying they don't steal...  they do. But seems a little off, just to pick on Walker.

Because the Democrats were in on it.  This is the deal they cut.  To them, winning a majority in the Senate was far more important than holding State offices in Georgia (with a Republican legislature).  And for Kemp and Raffensperger, keeping their jobs was more important than a fair Senate election.

Notice also how Lt. Gov. Geoff Duncan 'chose' to back out, handing his seat to someone else, while the main criminals Kemp, Carr, and Raffensperger remain.  Flashback to 2020 when the other three tried to throw Duncan under the bus for the election.  The only thing that saved him was that everyone knew he was too stupid to be involved in anything like this.
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Re: LIZ PEEK: Herschel Walker just wrote Donald Trump's political obituary
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2022, 07:13:20 pm »
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There wasn’t a single race in America where Democrat politicians/consultants were actively working AGAINST Democrat candidates.

In AZ, GA, & PA, “Republican” (RINO) politicians/consultants, were actively working AGAINST Republican candidates.

So messed up!

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« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2022, 07:18:35 pm »
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We have a historically unpopular Dem President,record inflation,a violent crime wave & total chaos at the border & not only did we fail to win a majority, we lost a seat

And the Senate GOP response is going to be to make no changes?

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Re: LIZ PEEK: Herschel Walker just wrote Donald Trump's political obituary
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2022, 07:38:04 pm »
The "they cheated" as an answer to ever GOP electoral defeat is getting seriously stupid.

In this case, it is the Republicans who cheated.  Not hearing many people saying that at all.  Let's not forget what Brian Kemp's job was before he became Governor (not to mention his side gig as a paid lobbyist for Dominion).


Time to stop. Grow up and take a serious look at why our candidates are successful in some states and bad in others.

I'm not talking about other States.  I'm talking about Georgia and the corrupt as hell GOP.


Not all candidates are created equal. Walker had serious issues.

Other than past mental health issues that he has addressed and overcome, what serious issues did Walker have?  Did he run over his ex-wife's foot with a car?  Did he try to evict disabled tenants during Covid?  Did he block police from investigating rampant child abuse at a summer camp he was running?  Each and every one of these cases is documented.  How does that stack up against documented cases against Walker?

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Re: LIZ PEEK: Herschel Walker just wrote Donald Trump's political obituary
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2022, 11:33:15 pm »
Hoodat wrote:
"Georgia has never been a Trump State.  The problem here isn't Trump.  The problem here is a thoroughly corrupt GOP that makes deals with the Dems on who is allowed to win elections.  In this last race, the GOP agreed on winning every statewide race in exchange for one US Senate seat."

Very interesting post (all of it).
Thanks for the info.

Hmmm... are you suggesting that while Republicans still have the ability to exercise some control over state elections (for their own benefit), that "at the national level" the state is probably gonna "go blue" ...?

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« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2022, 01:26:39 am »
46% of the Democrat total for the entire State came from four counties - Fulton, Dekalb, Cobb, and Gwinnett.  Georgia is basically turning into Illinois where one Democrat city determines the outcome for the whole State.  And as long as Democrats keep moving here to escape the hellholes of California, New York, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, and Michigan, the number of Democrat voters will continue to increase until Georgia becomes one of those same hell holes.

Will Georgia go blue?  Yes, eventually.  But historically, Georgia has always been a blue State.  It has the longest stretch of any State (136 years) without a Republican governor.

For now, the Dems know the system is rigged.  So they will use that to blackmail the ones benefitting from it.  Once Kemp, Raffensperger, and Carr are put to pasture, expect the Dems to start winning those offices.  Ironically, the best Secretary of State we ever had was Cathy Cox, a Democrat.
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Re: LIZ PEEK: Herschel Walker just wrote Donald Trump's political obituary
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2022, 02:44:47 am »
Speaking of Abrams, it is still really puzzling why Walker so badly underperformed Kemp.   

I think it boiled down to a candidate quality issue.  Walker stunk.
"I think it boiled down to a candidate quality issue.  Walker stunk."

It doesn't matter that Walker would definitely be a much better senator than Warnock who is a progressive scumbag.
Just listening to Walker compared to Warnock, Walker comes off as a poorly educated moron.
That with his closet full of skeletons cost him many votes from Republicans in an election where a very high percentage of Republicans won.

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« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2022, 02:48:25 am »
In this case, it is the Republicans who cheated.  Not hearing many people saying that at all.  Let's not forget what Brian Kemp's job was before he became Governor (not to mention his side gig as a paid lobbyist for Dominion).


I'm not talking about other States.  I'm talking about Georgia and the corrupt as hell GOP.


Other than past mental health issues that he has addressed and overcome, what serious issues did Walker have?  Did he run over his ex-wife's foot with a car?  Did he try to evict disabled tenants during Covid?  Did he block police from investigating rampant child abuse at a summer camp he was running?  Each and every one of these cases is documented.  How does that stack up against documented cases against Walker?

Welp, anecdotally, i don't live in Georgia, but I've heard here and there that a lot of right of center people (not necessary conservatives, but maybe Republican voters) just didn't like the guy for whatever reason. The abortion stuff certainly didn't help.

Not everyone thinks like you. A lot more people are willing to split their vote and more people consider it their moral duty to do so (not wanting to appear "partisan"). I've see it firsthand.

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« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2022, 02:51:14 am »
Welp, anecdotally, i don't live in Georgia, but I've heard here and there that a lot of right of center people (not necessary conservatives, but maybe Republican voters) just didn't like the guy for whatever reason. The abortion stuff certainly didn't help.

In other words, zero documented cases.  Not sure what abortion stuff you are talking about since no one ever came forward with any concrete information on it.  But the press certainly fulfilled their role by parroting unfounded Democrat allegations.
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« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2022, 07:03:28 am »
I thought it was a thunderstorm a couple of days ago?

A falling stock market?

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Paperboy not delivering their morning paper?

Maybe it was just people who hate orange hair?

 
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Re: LIZ PEEK: Herschel Walker just wrote Donald Trump's political obituary
« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2022, 09:01:24 am »
Agree.  Trump's hand picked choices of Oz and Walker came back to bite us.....   And Trump.

This obviously has not helped his political brand.
I must note that both were in states that are hotbeds of election fraud.
Both races are being waved about as if they are some sort of massive rejection of Trump and candidates he supported, and the GOPe would gladly throw a couple of elections (or at least look the other way while they were stolen) to use those losses as some sort of 'proof' that Trump's days are done, because he is still a very real threat to the swamp, and there are swamp critters on both sides of the aisle.

The bottom line, though, is that the vast majority of Trump backed candidates won.
You'd never know it listening to the pundits, though.

I'm not buying that, in spite of what, five, six years of constant crowing about how 'trump is done', over and over again? The Bolsheviks know this technique of old. repeat a lie long enough and often enough and it becomes believed.

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« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2022, 11:19:37 am »
The bottom line, though, is that the vast majority of Trump backed candidates won.


No, the bottom line is the ones targeted by MurderTurdle lost - every single one of them - and they were the ones that mattered. And in that, Tumpy made no difference.

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« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2022, 01:37:37 pm »
No, the bottom line is the ones targeted by MurderTurdle lost - every single one of them - and they were the ones that mattered. And in that, Tumpy made no difference.

Correct.
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