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Blaming Trump for the midterms
« on: November 19, 2022, 03:35:17 pm »
November 19, 2022
Blaming Trump for the midterms
By Frank Filocomo

In the days following the 2022 midterms, some self-anointed conservative thought leaders, who were never all that pro-Trump to begin with, have officially thrown the 45th President under the bus. These spineless conservatives have frolicked over to the DeSantis camp in a way that almost seems as if it was choreographed. Just like that, Trump is yesterday’s news -- he is to be discarded and forgotten about. ‘We need to move on from Trump!’ they’ll sheepishly exclaim. To that I say: pathetic… absolutely pathetic. This kind of thinking, to put it euphemistically, is unsound and illogical. 

While it’s hard to put a positive spin on the mediocre midterm results, it is hopelessly misguided to place the blame on President Trump. Blake Masters and Doug Mastriano did not lose because of their Trumpian qualities; they lost because of lack of support from the Republican establishment. Mitch McConnel and Karl Rove, instead of supporting young America-First talent, decided to back the Swamp. Ted Cruz recently voiced his exasperation at McConnell for his abandonment of Blake Masters, saying “...Masters said he would vote against Mitch McConnell. And so Mitch would rather be leader than have a Republican majority. If there’s a Republican who can win who’s not going to support Mitch, the truth of the matter is he’d rather the Democrat win.” This absolute abdication of duty from the party leviathans has a lot to do with why these precocious candidates fell short. 

Commentators like Rove, however, saw Tuesday night as a repudiation of MAGA: “...every candidate is realizing that in their state or district they are more popular than Donald Trump… Put it another way, Donald Trump is an anchor weighing them down. He looms over this, no ifs or buts.” Rove is exactly what is wrong with the GOP establishment. He wants Bush-era neocons to reclaim the party and jettison the populist wing. This, however, is simply not going to happen. Trump, whether Karl Rove likes it or not, took a dying neoliberal skeleton of a party and transformed it into a historic movement fueled by grassroots workers and patriots. Without Trump, we would be looking to Jeb Bush for leadership. 

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Re: Blaming Trump for the midterms
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2022, 06:12:36 pm »
Nonsense.  The democrats ran on election denial and abortion.  Everyone knew Donald would announce after the midterms (to forestall indictment) so his name was on the ticket as well.  People did not want to vote for his enablers after what happened on Jan 6.  If republicans insist on running another election with this cinderblock tied around their necks, they deserve what is coming to them. 
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Re: Blaming Trump for the midterms
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2022, 06:24:21 pm »
Nonsense.  The democrats ran on election denial and abortion.  Everyone knew Donald would announce after the midterms (to forestall indictment) so his name was on the ticket as well.  People did not want to vote for his enablers after what happened on Jan 6.  If republicans insist on running another election with this cinderblock tied around their necks, they deserve what is coming to them.

BS! People voted for the people he supported in droves, but their ballots were overcome by all the fraudulent ones collected in just the right places.
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Re: Blaming Trump for the midterms
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2022, 06:31:36 pm »
Nonsense.  The democrats ran on election denial and abortion.  Everyone knew Donald would announce after the midterms (to forestall indictment) so his name was on the ticket as well.  People did not want to vote for his enablers after what happened on Jan 6.  If republicans insist on running another election with this cinderblock tied around their necks, they deserve what is coming to them.

I think it was always presumed that Trump was going to run again, otherwise the J6 investigation with Cheney leading the way and the raid on his home would have never happened. So far there is no one putting their hat in the ring to oppose him.  I anticipate that the RINO's will be coming forward soon.

If in the event he is indicted I believe conservative will jump in and run.

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Re: Blaming Trump for the midterms
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2022, 07:29:47 pm »
Nonsense.  The democrats ran on election denial and abortion.  Everyone knew Donald would announce after the midterms (to forestall indictment) so his name was on the ticket as well.  People did not want to vote for his enablers after what happened on Jan 6.  If republicans insist on running another election with this cinderblock tied around their necks, they deserve what is coming to them.

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Re: Blaming Trump for the midterms
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2022, 07:33:43 pm »
BS! People voted for the people he supported in droves, but their ballots were overcome by all the fraudulent ones collected in just the right places.

To be taken seriously, these sorts of claims require evidence to be submitted before a judge.  Otherwise it’s just more of the ritual election denial which has come to define the GOP ever since Donald rode down the escalator.  Had Kari Lake spent more time begging her people to early-vote and less time yelling at interviewers, she would have won the election.  The Arizona congressional delegation did just fine in spite of it all. 

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Re: Blaming Trump for the midterms
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2022, 08:16:17 pm »
The Republicans lost the mid-terms because the Republicans didn't offer anything to replace what Americans already have.  No solution to inflation.  No solution to crime.  No solution to the border crisis.  Nothing.  Nothing other than 'look how bad Biden is'.
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Re: Blaming Trump for the midterms
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2022, 11:19:16 pm »
Did not more than 90% of the candidates Mr. Trump endorsed WIN their races...?

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Re: Blaming Trump for the midterms
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2022, 11:38:01 pm »
Did not more than 90% of the candidates Mr. Trump endorsed WIN their races...?

The vast majority of his endorsees were in safe districts.  Of those in battlegrounds only 14 of 37 won (38%).  Keep in mind the fundamentals heavily favored republicans in any tossup situation.  The election was a huge miss.
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Re: Blaming Trump for the midterms
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2022, 02:50:10 pm »
The Republicans lost the mid-terms because the Republicans didn't offer anything to replace what Americans already have.  No solution to inflation.  No solution to crime.  No solution to the border crisis.  Nothing.  Nothing other than 'look how bad Biden is'.

In large part, yes.

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Re: Blaming Trump for the midterms
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2022, 04:21:28 pm »
Did not more than 90% of the candidates Mr. Trump endorsed WIN their races...?

Trump has a habit of only endorsing those candidates who were already ahead in their primaries so that he could jump in front of their parades and claim credit.

I worked with Mastriano's campaign in Pennsylvania, and he double-crossed Doug early on by quietly supporting Corman.  In the end, Corman could never get past 3% and Doug won his primary in a landslide, but Trump never gave Doug a dime, only endorsing him a few days before the primary after Doug already had it nailed down.

"Trump encourages Jake Corman to remain in the governor’s race – and so he is"

https://www.pennlive.com/news/2022/04/trump-encourages-jake-corman-to-remain-in-the-governors-race-and-so-he-is.html

"Former Trump adviser Kellyanne Conway is joining Jake Corman’s campaign for governor"

https://www.witf.org/2022/01/07/former-trump-adviser-kellyanne-conway-joining-jake-corman/

Flashback: "GOP Feud: Corman changes forensic investigation, reassigns Mastriano’s staff in squabble over probe"

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Re: Blaming Trump for the midterms
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2022, 06:57:19 pm »
To be taken seriously, these sorts of claims require evidence to be submitted before a judge.  Otherwise it’s just more of the ritual election denial which has come to define the GOP ever since Donald rode down the escalator.  Had Kari Lake spent more time begging her people to early-vote and less time yelling at interviewers, she would have won the election.  The Arizona congressional delegation did just fine in spite of it all.
What? You don't think early votes can disappear, too?
It looks like Arizona isn't done yet.
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Re: Blaming Trump for the midterms
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2022, 07:22:08 pm »
There were many hands involved in the mid-term election failures, Trump being only part.
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