We Need To Stop Calling Ourselves Conservatives

[roamer_1]

Conservatism is a state of mind. Far removed from mere labels.

That's right. A way of life. 

[sneakypete]

Speaking of Mitch, there are currently three Senate races that the pundits are highlighting to determine who wins control of the Senate in 2023:

Pennsylvania
Georgia
Arizona

In each of these three races, Mitch McConnell opposed the eventual Republican nominee.

@Hoodat

Gee,THERE'S a shock,huh?

[roamer_1]

Human Nature.

Taking this miracle "Castor Oil" you're selling out the back of your truck that even tells you on the label ..."Tastes like Shit!!"

Good luck selling that to the country.

Look...we're not going to resurrect the Reagan Years!   We're not taking about a decade of double digit fixed mortgage rates here!!

Not to a generation...(going on two) of participation trophies who are conditioning themselves to no future (Climate Crap), poor-paying jobs so they can hardly afford rent...let alone to buy something.

So, who's going to sign up for that.  VOTE for that???

It's why I think the opposition already factored in...losing the House and Senate.

Put the GOP in charge when you're getting your prostate re-sectioned.

Then like I said, what good are you?
There is no point in continuing support, as y'all gleefully drive us down the drain.

[DCPatriot]

The difference here is that we aren't demanding your votes.  You are demanding ours.  So tell me, which vote is worth more?  When your policies fail at the ballot box, the first thing you do is blame Conservatives for not supporting your liberal spend, spend, spend - compromise, compromise, compromise - sell out, sell out, sell out bullshit.

Wait!!  What??

Where have I once propagated the idea of wanting your vote?

Geesh....I feel like the Action Hero telling ya, "COME WITH ME IF YOU WANT TO LIVE!!!"

You're one event away from being rounded up already...and you demand CONSERVATISM!!

You're a funny guy, @Hoodat   Hope they "...keel you last!"   

[roamer_1]

Hopefully we'll have a Bastille Day in DC before it gets that out of hand.

Maybe the socialist slime legislators will think they'll be martyrs.   

I'll be more like....  Good Riddance.

Unlikely. The lion's share which reside in the cities will fold right up and demand communism.

And the rednecks will crawl back in the woods and try to wait it out.

[roamer_1]

Once the Weimar Dollar is replaced as the standard petroleum exchange currency, people will be lucky to see bread at any price.

First there will be free money doled out... which will further inflate the dollar. Then there will be hyperinflation. Then the electronic dollar (which is already in place) will replace the greenback and everyone will cheer...

Until they find out that the electronic dollar is programmable, and the PTB can shut your money off if you speak the wrong things... Or stop your money from working for snickers bars or McDonalds if your weight is too much... Your ability to spend and what you can spend upon will be tied very incrementally to your social score.

Won't that be grand?

But mark my words... because that is how it will go down.
And there ain't a damn thing on earth to stop it except actual conservatives in power... And as this thread proves, that ain't gonna happen.

[rustynail]

 We Are No Longer Conservatives; We Are Restorationists

https://ricochet.com/1327463/we-are-no-longer-conservatives-we-are-restorationists/

[DCPatriot]

We Are No Longer Conservatives; We Are Restorationists

https://ricochet.com/1327463/we-are-no-longer-conservatives-we-are-restorationists/

 

[sneakypete]

Unlikely. The lion's share which reside in the cities will fold right up and demand communism.

@roamer_1

What else do you  expect from a population that has spent their entire lives getting food,water,heat,and electricity from "the system"?

And the rednecks will crawl back in the woods and try to wait it out.

Not me. Too old to worry about it. If they want me,they can come and get me. Bring body bags.

Not that this is going to worry them. It's not. There are damn few REAL "country people" left in this nation. Most of the people living in rural areas these days are city creatures that retired and moved there because of the cheaper living,and immediately started demanding the local government pass all the zoning and other laws they were used to in Boston,NYC,Detroit,etc,etc,etc.

Hell,mine is the only house on a freaking island, my nearest neighbor is over a mile away, and damned if I didn't have a woman complaining to the county about my antique parts cars and trucks parked on my 14-acre lot. You actually have to leave the paved road and drive up a dirt road to even see the house, never mind the cars.

She was outraged because "all those ugly old cars reduce my property values".

I told her if I ever caught her in my yard I would shoot her.

Haven't heard anything from her since.

[sneakypete]

Once the Weimar Dollar is replaced as the standard petroleum exchange currency, people will be lucky to see bread at any price.

@Hoodat

You are right because there will be no prices. Your benevolent government will be more than happy to provide "free" bread,meat,milk,and vegetables to anyone who is lucky enough to be standing in the right line at the right time.

They will do this because it trains the monkeys to look forward to being close to the front of the line when the gooberment agents open shop.

Eventually, the monkeys will come to accept this as normal,and look forward to getting there early to get the best stuff "for free causin our gooberment luvs us!"

It's called "conditioning". It won't take long for most people to forget the "bad old days,where you had to actually PAY for your groceries".

And everybody will be good little comrades.

This system was perfected in Communist Russia in the early 1920's,and in Fascist (another word for a slave state) Germany in the 30s. There is nothing new about it, and it will be implemented because it has been proven to work in the majority of the cases, and in the ones where it doesn't work, there are always the labor camps.

[DCPatriot]

@Hoodat

You are right because there will be no prices. Your benevolent government will be more than happy to provide "free" bread,meat,milk,and vegetables to anyone who is lucky enough to be standing in the right line at the right time.

They will do this because it trains the monkeys to look forward to being close to the front of the line when the gooberment agents open shop.

Eventually, the monkeys will come to accept this as normal,and look forward to getting there early to get the best stuff "for free causin our gooberment luvs us!"

It's called "conditioning". It won't take long for most people to forget the "bad old days,where you had to actually PAY for your groceries".

And everybody will be good little comrades.

This system was perfected in Communist Russia in the early 1920's,and in Fascist (another word for a slave state) Germany in the 30s. There is nothing new about it, and it will be implemented because it has been proven to work in the majority of the cases, and in the ones where it doesn't work, there are always the labor camps.

Venezuela is serving as the DEM's 'ant-farm'.

Once it's all destroyed they believe it's a matter of just flipping a switch..."Open Under New Management".

[sneakypete]

Venezuela is serving as the DEM's 'ant-farm'.

Once it's all destroyed they believe it's a matter of just flipping a switch..."Open Under New Management".

Y@DCPatriot

Yup,and thank you for reminding me. I had forgotten all about Venezuela. You never hear or see anything about it on the tv news or in the papers.

Gee,I wonder why?

(Possible sarcasm alert!)

[roamer_1]

@roamer_1

What else do you  expect from a population that has spent their entire lives getting food,water,heat,and electricity from "the system"?

Not me. Too old to worry about it. If they want me,they can come and get me. Bring body bags.

Not that this is going to worry them. It's not. There are damn few REAL "country people" left in this nation. Most of the people living in rural areas these days are city creatures that retired and moved there because of the cheaper living,and immediately started demanding the local government pass all the zoning and other laws they were used to in Boston,NYC,Detroit,etc,etc,etc.

Hell,mine is the only house on a freaking island, my nearest neighbor is over a mile away, and damned if I didn't have a woman complaining to the county about my antique parts cars and trucks parked on my 14-acre lot. You actually have to leave the paved road and drive up a dirt road to even see the house, never mind the cars.

She was outraged because "all those ugly old cars reduce my property values".

I told her if I ever caught her in my yard I would shoot her.

Haven't heard anything from her since.

@sneakypete

I am not ready to live in the woods. But I am more ready than about anybody here.
Even if I was myself and not gimped up, what it takes to exclusively live by subsistence, with little to no refrigeration, having to work for every calorie and btu...

It is a hard, hard way, and will leave no room for fighting or insurrection. Especially for a man with a family. Throw a camp, and even by myself, four days are easy. seven days can be done. But ten days is very unlikely. You will exploit the land to the point that there is nothing left within range and you will have to move on.

Now try to do that with 10 or 20 people, with half of them elders or children, and half of what's left being able-bodied men... That's a whole lot to feed, and a whole lot to move.

So the likelihood is small raiding parties, and nothing else, because folks need to care for their families more than contend with military action.

And that's where I will be. I am too old to fight, other than sniping maybe. Let the young bloods worry about all that. But what I know will help many out in the bush. That may turn into relief camps for fighters... but not right off.

My point being, rednecks fading off into the bush is not  a lack of willingness to fight - It is of a necessity to survive.

The only other choice at that point is to submit to the cities.

[DCPatriot]

@sneakypete

I am not ready to live in the woods. But I am more ready than about anybody here.
Even if I was myself and not gimped up, what it takes to exclusively live by subsistence, with little to no refrigeration, having to work for every calorie and btu...

It is a hard, hard way, and will leave no room for fighting or insurrection. Especially for a man with a family. Throw a camp, and even by myself, four days are easy. seven days can be done. But ten days is very unlikely. You will exploit the land to the point that there is nothing left within range and you will have to move on.

Now try to do that with 10 or 20 people, with half of them elders or children, and half of what's left being able-bodied men... That's a whole lot to feed, and a whole lot to move.

So the likelihood is small raiding parties, and nothing else, because folks need to care for their families more than contend with military action.

And that's where I will be. I am too old to fight, other than sniping maybe. Let the young bloods worry about all that. But what I know will help many out in the bush. That may turn into relief camps for fighters... but not right off.

My point being, rednecks fading off into the bush is not  a lack of willingness to fight - It is of a necessity to survive.

The only other choice at that point is to submit to the cities.

Heck, THIS administration??

They could/would clear out an entire county of 'Randy Weaver & spouses' in less than a week.

But least you'll die standing up and with your boots on!   (no sarcasm)

[sneakypete]

@sneakypete

I am not ready to live in the woods. But I am more ready than about anybody here.

Calling BS on that one. I already live in the woods. Even better than that,I live on a freaking island in the woods.

Even if I was myself and not gimped up, what it takes to exclusively live by subsistence, with little to no refrigeration, having to work for every calorie and btu...

It is a hard, hard way, and will leave no room for fighting or insurrection. Especially for a man with a family. Throw a camp, and even by myself, four days are easy. seven days can be done. But ten days is very unlikely. You will exploit the land to the point that there is nothing left within range and you will have to move on.

Now try to do that with 10 or 20 people, with half of them elders or children, and half of what's left being able-bodied men... That's a whole lot to feed, and a whole lot to move.

So the likelihood is small raiding parties, and nothing else, because folks need to care for their families more than contend with military action.

Every single word the absolute truth.

  And that's where I will be. I am too old to fight, other than sniping maybe. Let the young bloods worry about all that. But what I know will help many out in the bush. That may turn into relief camps for fighters... but not right off.


Also true,but while still true,maybe not neccessary.


  My point being, rednecks fading off into the bush is not  a lack of willingness to fight - It is of a necessity to survive.

And that is wrong. You WILL die early. Maybe not from gunshot wounds from an enemy, but from animal bites, cold, infections, or just accidents and the lack of proper medical care.

And you will die without harming the enemy or doing a single damn thing to save America.

  The only other choice at that point is to submit to the cities.

WRONG!

You can fight back and set an example for the younger generation to follow.

No,you,as an individual will NOT "win". Or even survive.

But what you WILL do is set an example for the younger generation that witnesses or hears about this to follow.

If push comes to shove,I intend on dying with my rifle in my hands fighting against the oppressors,not dying of starvation from a broken leg or an infection I received from checking trap lines or hunting wild animals.

My personal motto is,and has always been,"Bring it,bitches!"

[roamer_1]

Heck, THIS administration??

They could/would clear out an entire county of 'Randy Weaver & spouses' in less than a week.

But least you'll die standing up and with your boots on!   (no sarcasm)

You really have no idea what you're talking about, @DCPatriot ... You have no idea how big western forested lands are.

[Hoodat]

Heck, THIS administration??

They could/would clear out an entire county of 'Randy Weaver & spouses' in less than a week.

In seven years of searching a two-county area in North Carolina, the Feds couldn't find Eric Rudolph (who eventually gave himself up).  And as @roamer_1 will testify, the Blue Ridge ain't even real mountains.

[roamer_1]

Calling BS on that one. I already live in the woods. Even better than that,I live on a freaking island in the woods.

@sneakypete
No... I mean IN the woods - not in a cabin in the woods with electricity and heat. IN the woods. Camp. No supply lines. Everything from the woods. I can do that. I have done that for weeks to months at a time. I know how.

But even weeks to months, there is the comfort of a cheeseburger somewhere in that future, and the adventure will end. And if you don't want to take it anymore, well just point yourself out and walk the fifty miles or whatever, and you'll be back in civilization. Going out and staying out is a different thing. No end. Even in mindset, that's a way different thing.

And that is wrong. You WILL die early. Maybe not from gunshot wounds from an enemy, but from animal bites, cold, infections, or just accidents and the lack of proper medical care.

No... I mean, that MAY happen, but I have a higher chance of dying every time I get in a car and go down the highway. I KNOW the woods. I can deal with infection and accidents and cold - And I can care for myself medically - Differently than modern medicine, but I know my way around forage... And if I don't many hilljillies do.

No, I can THRIVE in these woods. I ain't worried for that. I AM worried about protection, especially from other people. That could be a thing.

And you will die without harming the enemy or doing a single damn thing to save America.

[...]

You can fight back and set an example for the younger generation to follow.

No,you,as an individual will NOT "win". Or even survive.

But what you WILL do is set an example for the younger generation that witnesses or hears about this to follow.

If push comes to shove,I intend on dying with my rifle in my hands fighting against the oppressors,not dying of starvation from a broken leg or an infection I received from checking trap lines or hunting wild animals.

My personal motto is,and has always been,"Bring it,bitches!"

Different strokes. Different jobs. I ain't made for foxholes. I might could snipe a few, like I said.  But that's pretty one-and-done. I can make a lay, and I can make the shots. But the exit would likely be beyond me.

But with what I know of woods lore, I could save many. And create refuge. That, in my case is more worthy in my mind. Take a few and die, or save many. That's not hard to weigh for me.

I ain't afraid of the fight... nor likely the kill (though I don't know that). And if that is my lot, then that is what I will do. It just makes more sense to teach and save many... And that too (each one) is a strike against the enemy.

[roamer_1]

In seven years of searching a two-county area in North Carolina, the Feds couldn't find Eric Rudolph (who eventually gave himself up).  And as @roamer_1 will testify, the Blue Ridge ain't even real mountains.

I can walk from here to the Northern Territories on over to Alaska and never meet a soul. The Kootenai forest, which is my back yard crosses three states. I can very probably walk all the way down to Colorado and cross very few roads - And East, through wild mountains over the divide and down the other side... I have made that trip four times the hard way. NOBODY can dig me out of the south fork running on over the hump and down into the Wind River country. I have been playing there since Hector was a pup.

That route, down to Colorado and up to the territories... Right down the spine of the Rockies... it's on my bucket list if I ever get my pins back under me enough to do it.

What a ride that would be, eh?

This is BIG country. I don't care who you are.

[libertybele]

@catfish1957

Cruz isn't a senate pariah,he is a surrender monkey who talks a good game,but is going nowhere.

Damn shame because I think he is probably the smartest Senator out of the whole damn bunch.

Cruz a surrender monkey?  Enlighten me. 

[corbe]

   Cruz has 3 strikes against him as far as @sneakypete is concerned.

    He's Cuban/Canadian
    GWB appointed him as Texas AG
    He called both Trump and McConnell a GD Liar.
   

[libertybele]

I can walk from here to the Northern Territories on over to Alaska and never meet a soul. The Kootenai forest, which is my back yard crosses three states. I can very probably walk all the way down to Colorado and cross very few roads - And East, through wild mountains over the divide and down the other side... I have made that trip four times the hard way. NOBODY can dig me out of the south fork running on over the hump and down into the Wind River country. I have been playing there since Hector was a pup.

That route, down to Colorado and up to the territories... Right down the spine of the Rockies... it's on my bucket list if I ever get my pins back under me enough to do it.

What a ride that would be, eh?

This is BIG country. I don't care who you are.

....and I am envious.  I can only imagine in my mind what it must be like to live in such remote and beautiful surroundings.

[libertybele]

   Cruz has 3 strikes against him as far as @sneakypete is concerned.

    He's Cuban/Canadian
    GWB appointed him as Texas AG
    He called both Trump and McConnell a GD Liar.
 

 

[sneakypete]

@sneakypete
No... I mean IN the woods - not in a cabin in the woods with electricity and heat. IN the woods. Camp. No supply lines. Everything from the woods. I can do that. I have done that for weeks to months at a time. I know how.

@roamer_1

That might work for you,but I am over 70 years old,cripped up,and even have a hard time walking much further than 50 feet.

I ain't going anywhere,and if they ever come for me,I will be taking a few of them on the "dirt nap" trip with me,and consider it a good day's work.

No... I mean, that MAY happen, but I have a higher chance of dying every time I get in a car and go down the highway. I KNOW the woods. I can deal with infection and accidents and cold - And I can care for myself medically - Differently than modern medicine, but I know my way around forage... And if I don't many hilljillies do.

No, I can THRIVE in these woods. I ain't worried for that. I AM worried about protection, especially from other people. That could be a thing.

You won't thrive one week longer than the government is willing to allow. Not in this day of drones and satellites.

Different strokes. Different jobs. I ain't made for foxholes. I might could snipe a few, like I said.  But that's pretty one-and-done. I can make a lay, and I can make the shots. But the exit would likely be beyond me.

If you want to be a truly effective sniper,the place to be is in a large metropolitan city. Seriously. You can survive a LOT longer and do a LOT more damage to the system from within, where you can disappear into the crowds, than you could ever hope to do in the wilderness. Especially in this day of armed drones.

I understand you will not like the idea of living in a big city. I even agree with you on that,but what you and I like is irrelevant when it comes to being effective. If you are going to die,die hard. Make them work for it.

But with what I know of woods lore, I could save many. And create refuge.

They would have been true 20+ years ago,but these days isolating yourself in a wilderness area only makes it easier for the government to take you out.

Seriously. BTW,I don't like it,either. If I thought for an instant your plan was effective,I would adopt it myself. Like I wrote above,20+ years ago that WAS the plan. Times change,and plans must change to adapt to the changing times.

That, in my case is more worthy in my mind. Take a few and die, or save many. That's not hard to weigh for me.

I heartily agree with the idea,but it is out of date and the equivalent of committing suicide with even having a chance to fire back once.

I ain't afraid of the fight... nor likely the kill (though I don't know that). And if that is my lot, then that is what I will do. It just makes more sense to teach and save many... And that too (each one) is a strike against the enemy.

All I can say to sum this all up is that I HOPE you are right and I am wrong. I don't think so,though,and this,if/when it happens,won't be "my first rodeo". I do know a thing or two about living in the woods as well as going after people who live in the woods.

BUT....,as i wrote above,I hope for nothing less than a colossal success for you and yours if this sort of thing comes to pass.

[sneakypete]

I can walk from here to the Northern Territories on over to Alaska and never meet a soul. The Kootenai forest, which is my back yard crosses three states. I can very probably walk all the way down to Colorado and cross very few roads - And East, through wild mountains over the divide and down the other side... I have made that trip four times the hard way. NOBODY can dig me out of the south fork running on over the hump and down into the Wind River country. I have been playing there since Hector was a pup.

That route, down to Colorado and up to the territories... Right down the spine of the Rockies... it's on my bucket list if I ever get my pins back under me enough to do it.

What a ride that would be, eh?

This is BIG country. I don't care who you are.

@roamer_1

GAWD,but how I wish we were both 25 years old and could take off on that walk! Despite our occasional disagreements, I suspect you and I have more in common than not.