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Will Libertarian Candidates Again Deny GOP the U.S. Senate?
« on: September 28, 2022, 02:08:21 pm »
Again Deny GOP the U.S. Senate?
The more powerful the Libertarian Party becomes, the more certain it is that they will turn America over to Democrats—rendering the majority sentiments of Americans politically irrelevant.

By Edward Ring
September 27, 2022

The political reality in America today is that of a two-party system. Embracing this reality means if you want to change the political direction of the nation, you have to transform one of the two major parties. Denying this reality, by running as a third-party candidate, can also transform the political direction of the nation. But it’s unlikely to change in the direction the third-party candidate wants to go. Third-party candidates rarely win elections, but they’re very good at splitting the vote.

This is the only context in which the national Libertarian Party, “The Party of Principle™,” is relevant in America today. This party, with its principled candidates, above all else, believes in limited government. Which is to say they oppose socialism. And voilà, when you split the anti-socialist vote, the socialist wins.

It shouldn’t be necessary to defend Republicans versus Democrats. Right now, the fact that Republicans are not Democrats should be enough. Even if many Republicans are just RINOs, they generally vote with their party on the major issues and, in any case, when Republicans control the Senate or the House, they have control over the budget, the court appointees, and the investigations. Overall, Republicans tend to approve less damaging legislation than Democrats.

This is reality. This is politics in America. Consider the Republican leaders with national stature today, then compare them to Democratic Party leaders with comparable visibility and influence. Maybe some of these Republicans are rough around the edges, or don’t agree with you or with each other on every issue. So what? Which gang do you want running the country? If you’re a populist conservative, or even if you’re a libertarian, the choice should be easy.

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Re: Will Libertarian Candidates Again Deny GOP the U.S. Senate?
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2022, 02:14:26 pm »
It shouldn’t be necessary to defend Republicans versus Democrats. Right now, the fact that Republicans are not Democrats should be enough.


There's the problem right there.

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« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2022, 02:20:17 pm »
The blame game begins...

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« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2022, 02:21:37 pm »
The blame game begins...

All blame begins and ends with the Turtle.
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« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2022, 02:47:16 pm »
There's the problem right there.

Yep.  When the two competing campaign themes are either

  • We're not Democrats

  • We're not Republicans or Democrats

the second choice wins out.
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« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2022, 03:26:21 pm »
Yep.  When the two competing campaign themes are either

  • We're not Democrats

  • We're not Republicans or Democrats

the second choice wins out.

It is interesting that the author supposes the Libertarian Party to be the party of principles... Very telling in a screed defending Republicans as being 'better than Democrats'...  :laugh:

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« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2022, 04:19:33 pm »
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The more powerful the Libertarian Party becomes
They're not becoming more powerful; they just have better social media because they don't go after the alphabet soup lobby.
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« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2022, 04:26:40 pm »
Libertarians support limited government.  If Republicans really want Libertarian votes, then maybe they should consider supporting limited government as well.
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« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2022, 04:52:53 pm »
Libertarians support limited government.  If Republicans really want Libertarian votes, then maybe they should consider supporting limited government as well.

But, but, butt... That'd mean they'd actually have to stand up and do like they've promised all these years...  :whistle:

Not likely.

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« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2022, 06:28:39 pm »
Yep.  When the two competing campaign themes are either

  • We're not Democrats

  • We're not Republicans or Democrats

the second choice wins out.

Most republicans voters understand that “We’re not Democrats” is simply a form of shorthand or rally cry that points to a set of very clear and important differences in the parties’ governing principles and philosophy, also the parties’ cultural/social/foreign policy differences etc, and their respective tolerances for political corruption. (that last part may be sarcasm or it just may be a clear vision of how bad Washington’s become)

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« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2022, 06:35:42 pm »
Most republicans voters understand that “We’re not Democrats” is simply a form of shorthand or rally cry that points to a set of very clear and important differences in the parties’ governing principles and philosophy

When it comes to deficit spending and the reckless expansion of the money supply to fund government, there really is no longer any difference between the two parties.
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« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2022, 08:11:10 pm »
Most republicans voters understand that “We’re not Democrats” is simply a form of shorthand or rally cry that points to a set of very clear and important differences in the parties’ governing principles and philosophy, also the parties’ cultural/social/foreign policy differences etc, and their respective tolerances for political corruption. (that last part may be sarcasm or it just may be a clear vision of how bad Washington’s become)

A distinction without a difference.
The government the Democrats are using now was put/left in place by Republicans.
There is no excuse.

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« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2022, 09:46:10 pm »
Stop blaming the Turtle. BLame the idiot, Orange-man worshipping base who think he's Jesus. That's why we have Mehmet Oz and the "I'm a dumbass" guy in Georgia.

I was never a fan of those picks, but you have to play the hand you're dealt.

You obviously slept through Turtle's No Mas' speech a few weeks ago, which pretty much conceded control of the senate this November,  when  polling data has been obviously biased otherwise.  That is just one example of his mass stupidity and utter mass mismanagement of GOP leadership.  Hell yes....this is on him.  Has been for years in his capitulation to our dimocratic enemies.

Pertinent news articles, a little analysis and an open mind are our friends.  Try it sometimes.
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« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2022, 10:07:26 pm »
The only ones denying the GOP control of the Senate right now is the GOP.  As a reminder, there were three Senate races in 2020 where Republicans received the majority of Democrat votes.  Yet the GOP stood idly by and allowed the Democrats to steal all three races through ballot harvesting, multiple voting, electronic fraud, and numerous other illegalities.  Right now, the US Senate is missing two GOP Senators from Georgia and one from Michigan because the Republican Party believed it was worth it to sacrifice three Senators in order to get Joe Biden into the White House.  So to hell with Edward Ring and his Establishment bullshit.

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This is reality. This is politics in America. Consider the Republican leaders with national stature today, then compare them to Democratic Party leaders with comparable visibility and influence. Maybe some of these Republicans are rough around the edges, or don’t agree with you or with each other on every issue. So what? Which gang do you want running the country?

Neither one.
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.

-Dwight Eisenhower-


"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."

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