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Can the British monarchy survive Queen Elizabeth’s death?
« on: September 10, 2022, 03:00:38 pm »
Can the British monarchy survive Queen Elizabeth’s death?

Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom died Thursday at the age of 96 at Balmoral Castle, her estate in the Scottish Highlands. As the longest-reigning monarch in British history, the queen was especially beloved by her people. After taking the throne in 1952, for decades she commanded one of the highest approval ratings for any member of Buckingham Palace’s royal family, with the figure rising to 90% in the early 2000s. In a 2021 poll, she was named the third most admired woman in the world. Upon her death, newspapers across the globe mourned the loss of what they described as an icon of grace and dignity, the “spirit of Britain.”

Now, that loss could portend a coming revolution as the public eye falls upon a beleaguered monarchy in troubled times. The rest of the House of Windsor is not nearly as beloved as the queen, and in recent years, broad support for the very concept of British royalty has taken a swan dive from its peak a decade ago.

In November 2021, just months ahead of the queen’s Platinum Jubilee—which celebrated her 70th year of rule—an Ipsos poll found that only 60% of Britons favor Britain remaining a monarchy, which had fallen from 76% five years prior to become the lowest percentage seen in the poll’s 30-year history. The Jubilee itself was countered by an international anti-monarchy conference, which trumpeted the slogan, “Make Elizabeth the last.”

During Jubilee weekend in June, a YouGov poll found that 62% of Britons favored the monarchy. But a breakdown showed that support was carried by older generations (77% of those aged 65+), and declined with age (only 33% of those aged 18-24 supported the monarchy, while 31% favored an elected government), suggesting that anti-monarchy sentiment was trending to grow with time. When asked whether they believed the monarchy would still exist in 100 years, Britons were on the fence, with 39% saying it would—down from 67% a decade ago—and 41% saying it would not.

The ascension of the queen’s oldest son, King Charles III—formerly Prince Charles—could ruin the monarchy well earlier than the next century. Much vilified after the implosion of his marriage to Princess Diana of Wales, who was perhaps even more popular than the queen, Prince Charles himself had seemed allergic to the prospect of becoming king, once calling it a “no-win” conundrum. Meanwhile, critics ridiculed everything from his habit of talking to plants to his fascination with architecture. His reluctant coronation now threatens to throw the country into more political turmoil...............

https://www.fastcompany.com/90787731/queen-elizabeth-death-uk-anti-monarchy-movement
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Re: Can the British monarchy survive Queen Elizabeth’s death?
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2022, 03:09:24 pm »
Charles is a buffoon who is severely disconnected from reality.

Respect for the monarchy is likely to go into freefall.

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Re: Can the British monarchy survive Queen Elizabeth’s death?
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2022, 03:52:40 pm »
Charles is a buffoon who is severely disconnected from reality.

Respect for the monarchy is likely to go into freefall.

Especially when he starts going Full Greta, and his subjects start suffering the consequences of this stupidity.

Plus he must not be that astute a historian of his own monarchy.  The first 2 17th Century Charles'?  One was beheaded in UK/England's only successful Civil War, and the 2nd was a blithering fool who had no respect of his subjects.
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Re: Can the British monarchy survive Queen Elizabeth’s death?
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2022, 03:55:43 pm »
Of course it will.

It just be different under King Charles and when William becomes King.
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Re: Can the British monarchy survive Queen Elizabeth’s death?
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2022, 03:59:19 pm »
Of course it will.

It just be different under King Charles and when William becomes King.

I love tradition too.  But the world has been sliding enmasse toward NWO Socialism. My best guess William will be the last monarch, as a late 21st Century England isn't going to have much stomach for monarchs.
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Re: Can the British monarchy survive Queen Elizabeth’s death?
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2022, 04:30:56 pm »
I love tradition too.  But the world has been sliding enmasse toward NWO Socialism. My best guess William will be the last monarch, as a late 21st Century England isn't going to have much stomach for monarchs.

The tradition has lasted for centuries; all the pomp and circumstance.  But I think that you are correct; some of the Brits are turned off by all the money that is spent and the massive wealth they have accumulated.

Perhaps both Charles and William will soon realize that 'going green' isn't the answer.
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Re: Can the British monarchy survive Queen Elizabeth’s death?
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2022, 06:09:33 pm »
Can the British monarchy survive Queen Elizabeth’s death?

The wrong question.  The Monarchy obviously survived, King Charles took the vows this morning. 

The Right Question: Can the British Monarchy survive King Charles' reign?
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Re: Can the British monarchy survive Queen Elizabeth’s death?
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2022, 06:14:11 pm »
Can the British monarchy survive Queen Elizabeth’s death?

The wrong question.  The Monarchy obviously survived, King Charles took the vows this morning. 

The Right Question: Can the British Monarchy survive King Charles' reign?

Excellent point!
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Re: Can the British monarchy survive Queen Elizabeth’s death?
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2022, 08:41:15 pm »
Off-the-wall prediction:

Charles will convert the UK from the Church of England... to islam...

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Re: Can the British monarchy survive Queen Elizabeth’s death?
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2022, 08:48:26 pm »
William will be the last King of England, who winds it down and steps aside as sovereign in favor of an elected head of state, like most other parliamentary systems have. 

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Re: Can the British monarchy survive Queen Elizabeth’s death?
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2022, 09:10:41 pm »
Off-the-wall prediction:

Charles will convert the UK from the Church of England... to islam...

What is your reasoning behind that @Fishrrman ???
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Re: Can the British monarchy survive Queen Elizabeth’s death?
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2022, 09:33:15 pm »
Off-the-wall prediction:

Charles will convert the UK from the Church of England... to islam...
There have been rumors that Charles converted to islam a few years ago.

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Re: Can the British monarchy survive Queen Elizabeth’s death?
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2022, 10:28:20 pm »
Off-the-wall prediction:

Charles will convert the UK from the Church of England... to islam...

I saw an Anglican bishop come on Fox the the night QE died and outright slammed  Chuck for very deliberatley being quoted that he would be:

"Defender of the Faith(s)"

No doubt what he meant.
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Re: Can the British monarchy survive Queen Elizabeth’s death?
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2022, 11:35:19 pm »
Of course it will.

It just be different under King Charles and when William becomes King.
I believe you are right. There have been near village idiot monarchs before. Charles' policies will determine how well the Monarchy survives.
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Re: Can the British monarchy survive Queen Elizabeth’s death?
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2022, 11:45:17 pm »
I believe you are right. There have been near village idiot monarchs before. Charles' policies will determine how well the Monarchy survives.

William is a globalist and I found parts of his speech at the Queen's Jubilee troubling; "the pressing need to protect and restore our planet has never been more urgent."  So, I think the monarchy is in jeopardy.

For that matter, I'm much more worried about our own country surviving.
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Re: Can the British monarchy survive Queen Elizabeth’s death?
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2022, 11:48:58 pm »
William is a globalist and I found parts of his speech at the Queen's Jubilee troubling; "the pressing need to protect and restore our planet has never been more urgent."  So, I think the monarchy is in jeopardy.

For that matter, I'm much more worried about our own country surviving.
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The Republic might survive.
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Re: Can the British monarchy survive Queen Elizabeth’s death?
« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2022, 12:03:27 am »
IF we can...

Get enough seats (votes) in Congress to stop the juggernaut...

Survive the stupidity of 'universal' EV-dom and the Green New Deal...

Retain reserve currency status for the dollar...

and somehow manage to not starve to death or freeze in the meantime

The Republic might survive.

To think where we were as a country under Trump and where we are now is downright frightening.
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Re: Can the British monarchy survive Queen Elizabeth’s death?
« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2022, 01:03:14 am »
To think where we were as a country under Trump and where we are now is downright frightening.
Yep! It is.
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Re: Can the British monarchy survive Queen Elizabeth’s death?
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2022, 02:08:15 pm »
The tradition has lasted for centuries; all the pomp and circumstance.  But I think that you are correct; some of the Brits are turned off by all the money that is spent and the massive wealth they have accumulated.

Perhaps both Charles and William will soon realize that 'going green' isn't the answer.
I read anotehr article saying that now as King he would be rejecting some of the more extreme measures.
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