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« Reply #675 on: October 16, 2022, 01:34:15 am »
Russia and the Russian people are not nearly as isolated from their war as they would like to believe.


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« Reply #676 on: October 16, 2022, 01:55:21 am »
Russia says 11 killed in shooting at military base in Belgorod

Gunmen open fire on volunteer soldiers at a Russian military training ground in Belgorod, killing 11 and wounding 15 others.

16 Oct 2022

Gunmen have opened fire at a Russian military training ground near Ukraine, killing at least 11 people and wounding 15 others, according to Russia’s Defense Ministry.

The ministry said the “terrorist” attack took place on Saturday in the southwestern Belgorod region that borders Ukraine.

It said the two assailants – nationals from an unspecified former Soviet republic – fired on volunteer soldiers during target practice and were killed by return fire.

The shooting comes amid a hasty mobilisation ordered by President Vladimir Putin to beef up Russian forces in Ukraine – a move that triggered protests and caused hundreds of thousands to flee Russia. It also comes a week after a blast damaged a bridge in Crimea, the peninsula annexed by Russia from Ukraine in 2014.

“During a firearms training session with individuals who voluntarily expressed a desire to participate in the special military operation (against Ukraine), the terrorists opened fire with small arms on the personnel of the unit,” the defence ministry statement said.  .  .

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/10/16/russia-says-11-killed-in-shooting-at-military-base-in-belgorod



The shooters were Tajiks.  The President of Tajikistan's response to Putin, "Please do not relate to the countries of Central Asia as the former USSR!"


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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #677 on: October 16, 2022, 02:11:58 am »
I'm guessing that these mines are magnetic?


Russian soldier cluelessly ploughs armoured vehicle into clearly visible landmines


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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #678 on: October 16, 2022, 04:49:01 pm »

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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #679 on: October 16, 2022, 04:58:02 pm »
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China is evacuating its citizens from Ukraine. What do they expect is about to happen?
8:33 AM · Oct 16, 2022


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With the current grim security situation in #Ukraine, China's Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Chinese Embassy in Ukraine on Sat urge Chinese citizens in the country to enhance safety precautions and evacuate. The Embassy will assist in organizing the evacuation of people in need.
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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #680 on: October 16, 2022, 05:40:03 pm »
Ezra Levant 🍁🚛
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China is evacuating its citizens from Ukraine. What do they expect is about to happen?
8:33 AM · Oct 16, 2022


Zhang Meifang张美芳
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With the current grim security situation in #Ukraine, China's Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Chinese Embassy in Ukraine on Sat urge mChinese citizens in the country to enhance safety precautions and evacuate. The Embassy will assist in organizing the evacuation of people in need.
10:16 AM · Oct 15, 2022

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I dunno. Hard to believe the Soviets would tip them off about something major,but it does seem like they have reason to believe the Bush is going to get bad there real soon.
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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #681 on: October 16, 2022, 07:53:47 pm »
What a strategy
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
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« Reply #682 on: October 16, 2022, 07:56:35 pm »
Russian Guards unit in major revolt as Putin faces catastrophic collapse in army morale

JOHN VARGA  |  Oct 16, 2022  |  11:32


Vladimir Putin is facing another military revolt, after an army guards unit publicly complained about a lack of critical military equipment and of suffering from exhaustion. The 126th Coastal Defence Brigade is believed to be currently on military duties in the Kherson region. The area has seen intense fighting in recent weeks, as Ukraine's army continues its counteroffensive to retake the province and the port city of Kherson, which is strategically located on the Dnipro River and Black Sea.

The brigade is a detachment of Russia's Black Sea Fleet and was only recently granted the "Guards" honorific.

The award was intended to compensate the unit for the heavy losses it suffered, while unsuccessfully attempting to capture Voznesensk in southrern Ukraine earlier in the campaign.

However, the soldiers appear to be increasingly unhappy with the conditions in which they are having to serve.

Members of the brigade published a video to social media on October 13, in which they complained about suffering from fatigue and a lack of vital military hardware.

They said they had been on active duty since the beginning of the war and had not been granted any breaks or rotation.

Moreover, they asserted that they were being "crushed" by Ukraine's army and were in desperate need of transport.

The Guardsmen claimed that they had only one BTR (armoured personnel vehicle) for 80 people.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1683420/russia-news-guards-brigade-revolts-kherson-putin-ukraine-war-update



Am I reading this correctly?  Does this brigade only have 80 soldiers remaining?  Or are they saying they have one BTR for every 80 soldiers?
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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #683 on: October 16, 2022, 08:08:24 pm »
What a strategy

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Ok,as I think you all know that I am probably not the biggest fan of the Neo-Soviets that you know,but 100 rapes over that span of time,especially when you take into consideration the very real "I need to get laid today because I will probably die tomorrow" mindset of the typical 18-22 year old soldier,is only shocking in that it is so low.

AND,,,,,since when have 18-22 year old soldiers needed Viagra?
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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #684 on: October 16, 2022, 08:21:00 pm »
I believe this Viagra story has come up (no pun intended) in other wars. In other words, urban legend.
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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #685 on: October 16, 2022, 08:58:02 pm »
AND,,,,,since when have 18-22 year old soldiers needed Viagra?

Game, set, match.  When I was 18, I could have used some anti-viagra.
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« Reply #686 on: October 16, 2022, 10:03:12 pm »

This is clearly a war crime.
The next time I see this, I hope it is happening over Moscow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Njqx_sw4IAY

Burns at around 5000 degrees.
Can only be extinguished with sand.
Will burn through metal and most things.
Causing random fires all over the area.
Disperses harmful gases.
Supposed to be used for illumination only.
Banned for use on personnel.
If a person is hit by this stuff, even a spark of it, it will burn to the bone and through.
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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #687 on: October 17, 2022, 12:09:53 am »
UN General Assembly condemns Russian annexation of 4 Ukrainian regions

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2022/10/un-general-assembly-condemns-russian-annexation-of-4-ukrainian-regions/

The United Nations General Assembly condemned Russia’s annexation of parts of eastern Ukraine in a symbolic vote that nonetheless exceeded western expectations for how much support the measure would receive.

The General Assembly voted 143-5, with 35 nations including India and China abstaining, to approve the western-backed resolution, which opposed Russia’s “attempted illegal annexation” of the four regions.

The vote was a strong indication of how isolated Russia has become over its invasion and decision to absorb the eastern Ukrainian regions of Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk and Zaporizhzhya.

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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #688 on: October 17, 2022, 01:27:39 am »
Russia continues to conduct massive, forced deportations of Ukrainians that likely amount to a deliberate ethnic cleansing campaign in addition to apparent violations of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-october-15

Key Takeaways

•   Russia is conducting forced deportation of Ukrainians that likely amount to a deliberate ethnic cleansing campaign in addition to apparent violations of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide.

•   Prominent Russian milbloggers who yesterday announced the existence of “hit lists” reportedly originating with the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) and targeting milbloggers for their coverage of operations in Ukraine walked back their claim on October 15.

•   The Wagner Group Private Military Company is likely continuing efforts to assert its supremacy over the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) and more conventional Russian ground forces.

•   Russia may have signed a new contract with Iran for the supply of Arash-2 drones.

•   Russian forces continued counterattacks west of Kreminna.

•   Russian milbloggers widely discussed the likelihood of a Ukrainian counteroffensive on Kreminna and Svatove.

•   Russian sources claimed that Ukrainian troops launched a general counteroffensive in northern Kherson Oblast.

•   Russian forces continued ground attacks in Donetsk Oblast.

•   Ukrainian forces likely struck Russian military assets situated along Russian ground lines of communication (GLOCs) in Zaporizhia Oblast and southern Donetsk Oblast.

•   Mobilized Russian forces engaged in a fratricidal altercation at a training ground in Belgorod Oblast.

•   Russian and occupation administration officials continued to enact restrictions on movement and conduct strict law enforcement activities in Russian-occupied territories.

Russian Deputy Prime Minister Marat Khusnullin stated on October 14 that “several thousand” children from Kherson Oblast are “already in other regions of Russia, resting in rest homes and children’s camps.”[1] As ISW has previously reported, Russian authorities openly admitted to placing children from occupied areas of Ukraine up for adoption with Russian families in a manner that may constitute a violation of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide.[2]

Russian authorities may additionally be engaged in a wider campaign of ethnic cleansing by depopulating Ukrainian territory through deportations and repopulating Ukrainian cities with imported Russian citizens. Ethnic cleansing has not in itself been specified as a crime under international law but has been defined by the United Nations Commission of Experts on violations of humanitarian law committed on the territory of the former Yugoslavia as “rendering an area ethnically homogeneous by using force or intimidation to remove persons of given groups from the area” and “a purposeful policy designed by one ethnic or religious group to remove by violent and terror-inspiring means the civilian population of another ethnic or religious group from certain geographic areas.”[3] According to the UN definition, ethnic cleansing may be carried out by forcible removal, among other methods.[4] These definitions of ethnic cleansing campaigns are consistent with reports of the forcible deportation and adoption of Ukrainian children, as well as reports by Ukrainian sources that reconstruction projects in Mariupol are intended to house “tens of thousands of Russians” who will move to Mariupol.[5]

Prominent Russian milbloggers who yesterday announced the existence of “hit lists” reportedly originating with the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) and targeting milbloggers for their coverage of operations in Ukraine walked back their claim on October 15. As ISW reported on October 14, prominent Russian milblogger Semyon Pegov of the WarGonzo Telegram channel accused “individual generals and military commanders” of the Russian MoD of developing a “hitlist” of Russian milbloggers whom the MoD intends to prosecute for “discrediting” the MoD’s handling of the war in Ukraine.[6] Pegov’s claim was amplified by several other milbloggers and generated substantial panic about censorship in the hyper-nationalist Russian information space.[7]

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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #689 on: October 17, 2022, 03:28:36 am »
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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #690 on: October 17, 2022, 04:52:45 am »
This quote won't age well





Russia will "DESTROY THE WORLD!!" with 200 rockets and 400 cruise missiles!
Putin has definitely lost his mind. This will not end well for Russia.
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« Reply #691 on: October 17, 2022, 04:58:43 am »
Translation is horrible, but gets the message across
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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #692 on: October 17, 2022, 06:36:49 am »
Ukraine war: Kyiv attacked by kamikaze drones say officials


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At least five explosions have been heard in the Ukrainian capital Kyiv - with a presidential adviser blaming "kamizake drones" sent by Russia.

"It shows their desperation," said Andriy Yermak, head of Ukrainian President Zelensky's office.

Mayor Vitalii Klitschko said residential buildings in the central Shevchenkivskiy area had been damaged.

A week ago, the capital was hit by Russian missiles at rush hour, part of nationwide attacks which left 19 dead.

The explosions on Monday began at around 06:30 local time (03:30 GMT), and there were at least five in total. The most recent was at around 08:10 local time.


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« Reply #693 on: October 17, 2022, 07:41:51 am »
If China wants Mongolia and Russia, THERE IS NO BETTER TIME THAN NOW.
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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #694 on: October 17, 2022, 12:04:26 pm »
If China wants Mongolia and Russia, THERE IS NO BETTER TIME THAN NOW.
Xi must be watching all this with a satisfied and slightly amused expression on his face.
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« Reply #695 on: October 17, 2022, 12:38:17 pm »
Anger Over Russia's Battlefield Defeats Bursts Into The Open, Posing A Challenge For Putin

https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-battlefield-defeats-ukraine-putin-challenges/32063612.html

For weeks now, on the uncensored Telegram channels of hard-line nationalists and Russian military bloggers, there's been a litany of angry criticism of Russia's military commanders amid a stunning Ukrainian counteroffensive in the Kharkiv region and elsewhere resulting in substantial Russian losses.

Now with the Ukrainians' weekend victory in Lyman, a Donetsk region city and strategic rail hub southeast of Kharkiv, that criticism is bursting into wider public view, hitting the front pages of some of Russia's biggest newspapers.

That's a serious problem for Russia's military brass -- and potentially for the Kremlin.

"I wouldn't predict a palace coup imminently. If there were one, we'd almost be the last ones to know about it, these things happen pretty swiftly when they do," said James Nixey, who heads the Russia and Eurasia program at the Chatham House think tank in London. "But obviously, there is increasing discontent in the upper Russian echelons about the course of the war, and that is being manifested in various ways, people can’t hold it in."

"The problem is Putin's grip in all sorts of ways is too strong for people to mobilize and consolidate and form an alliance, to move against him," he told RFE/RL. "I personally think...the Russian elite has never been as at risk of collapse quite frankly than it is now."

Over the 23 years Putin has been in power, Russia's once freewheeling media has been squeezed into submission. After the February 24 invasion, he signed legislation that in many cases criminalizes independent reporting on the war, as well as criticism and dissent, by outlawing "discrediting the armed forces."

That dovetailed with the closure of some of the country's best-known independent outlets, like the Ekho Moskvy radio station and the newspaper Novaya gazeta. Even Internet resources and social-media companies like Facebook, Twitter, and VK have been censored or brought to heel.

The messaging app Telegram, however, has remained uncensored by Russian regulators. The result has been a flood of information, criticism, and discussion, including about how badly the war is going for Russian forces.

And pro-Russian military bloggers have taken full advantage.

'Send All These Bastards...Barefoot To The Front'

Inside Russia, discussions of the military's early setbacks in Ukraine have been muted. Even after Russian forces failed to capture Kyiv in the early weeks of the invasion, thwarted by Ukrainian defenses, Russian commanders and bloggers characterized the withdrawal and shifting of forces to the Donbas -- the Donetsk and Luhansk regions -- as merely a tactical decision.

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« Reply #696 on: October 17, 2022, 01:16:08 pm »
Ukraine deploys upwards of 2,500 troops to Artyomovsk, Soledar — LPR militia

https://tass.com/politics/1523689

TASS Military operation in Ukraine 17 Oct, 05:52

It is reported that Ukrainian forces are suffering huge losses

LUGANSK, October 17. /TASS/. The Ukrainian Armed Forces deployed as many as 2,500 troops to the cities of Artyomovsk and Soledar in the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) in the past week, the Lugansk People’s Republic’s militia officer Andrey Marochko told TASS on Monday.

"In the past week, the enemy deployed as many as 2,500 reinforcement troops to the area near Soledar and Artyomovsk but these reinforcements are already gone," he said.

According to LPR intelligence, Ukrainian forces are suffering huge losses. "In particular, the 20th battalion of the 93rd Separate Mechanized Brigade lost over 60% of its troops, which, along with service members’ refusal to go into battle, caused the battalion’s withdrawal to the Chasov Yar area," Marochko said.

The militia officer earlier told TASS that the Ukrainian Armed Forces were deploying reserve troops to the Artyomovsk area amid an offensive operation by the allied forces, which had caused a shortage of troops in other sectors of the frontline.

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« Reply #697 on: October 17, 2022, 01:17:20 pm »
Putin will deploy 9,000 Russian troops to Belarus as Kremlin allies fuel fears of a new ground assault on the Ukrainian capital by closing their embassies in Kyiv

By SUMMER GOODKIND FOR MAILONLINE
16 October 2022

Russia is set to deploy 9,000 soldiers to Belarus, the Belarusian defence ministry has claimed, sparking fears that a fresh ground assault on the Ukrainian capital could be imminent.

Although the Kremlin has claimed that the move is part of a defensive operation, some commentators believe that Putin is attempting to draw Belarus - a country bordering both Russia and Ukraine - into his war, the Telegraph has reported.

Russia's defence ministry stated that the decision to send soldiers into Belarus, for the first time since March, was 'dictated by the ongoing activity in the areas bordering us.'

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« Reply #698 on: October 17, 2022, 01:19:40 pm »
'War criminal' wanted in West over shooting down of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 is 'made commander of Putin's frontline forces in Ukraine'

By WILL STEWART and NATASHA ANDERSON FOR MAILONLINE
16 October 2022

A wanted 'war criminal' accused of complicity in the shooting down of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 has been 'made a commander in Vladimir Putin's frontline forces fighting in Ukraine'.

Igor Strelkov, 51, former defence minister of self-styled Donetsk People's Republic, has been an arch-critic of the Kremlin over the Ukraine campaign.

But now in a change of tack, the ex-FSB colonel and hardliner has been appointed a frontline commander, it is reported.

He was pictured bidding farewell to his wife wearing military fatigues.

Strelkov - real named Igor Girkin - was blamed for the downing of MH17 which was hit by a BUK missile supplied by Russia in 2014. Over the 298 civilians killed when the Boeing 777 from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur was blown out of the sky.

Strelkov, under his previous name, was among the three Russian nationals and one Ukrainian tried for murder in the Netherlands over the downing of the plane. The Dutch court handling the trial is expected to hand down its verdict next month.

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« Reply #699 on: October 17, 2022, 01:20:16 pm »
Russian forces wipe out two command posts in Ukraine operation, top brass reports

https://tass.com/politics/1523737


It is reported that Russian air defense forces shot down nine Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles and intercepted 21 HIMARS and Olkha rockets and two American HARM anti-radar missiles in the past day

MOSCOW, October 17. /TASS/. Russian combat aircraft, missile and artillery troops struck two Ukrainian army command posts and six ammunition depots in the past day in the special military operation in Ukraine, Defense Ministry Spokesman Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov reported on Monday.

"in the past 24 hours, operational-tactical and army aviation aircraft, missile and artillery troops struck two command posts in the areas of the settlements of Dvurechnaya in the Kharkov Region and Drobyshevo in the Donetsk People’s Republic. They destroyed six ammunition depots in the areas of the communities of Figolevka in the Kharkov Region, Verkhnekamenskoye and Soledar in the Donetsk People’s Republic, Novogrigorovka in the Nikolayev Region, Novopetrovka and Davydov Brod in the Kherson Region," the spokesman said.

In the past 24 hours, Russian troops struck 39 Ukrainian artillery units at firing positions, manpower and military hardware in 127 areas, the general said.

Russian forces continued delivering precision strikes against military command centers and energy infrastructure sites in the special military operation in Ukraine, Konashenkov reported.

"In the past 24 hours, the Russian Armed Forces continued delivering strikes by long-range air-and sea-based high-precision weapons against Ukrainian military command centers and energy infrastructure facilities. All the designated targets were struck," the spokesman said.

Russian troops thwarted a Ukrainian army attempt to break through the defense in the Kherson Region, eliminating over 100 militants, Konashenkov reported.

"In the Nikolayev-Krivoi Rog direction, Russian troops thwarted an attempt by Ukrainian army units to break through the defense in the area of the settlement of Bruskinskoye in the Kherson Region, destroying over 100 Ukrainian military personnel, 13 combat armored vehicles and eight motor vehicles," the spokesman said.

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