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Re: BREAKING>>FBI raids Trump’s Mar-a-Lago
« Reply #675 on: August 10, 2022, 02:14:03 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on August 10, 2022, 01:01:57 pm
August 9, 2022 7:33pm EDT
FBI would not let Trump attorneys in rooms as agents raided Mar-a-Lago, warrant focused on NARA: source
'There is no need for any of this,' a source told Fox News

By Brooke Singman | Fox News

    FBI agents would not allow Trump lawyers watch as they raided former President Trump’s private home at Mar-a-Lago early Monday morning, a source told Fox News.

 

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That can't possibly be legal.
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Re: BREAKING>>FBI raids Trump’s Mar-a-Lago
« Reply #676 on: August 10, 2022, 02:17:37 pm »
Quote from: sneakypete on August 10, 2022, 02:14:03 pm
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That can't possibly be legal.

It's not.  A person has a right to an attorney.  That attorney is their legal representative.  If Trump had been home at the time, he would have been allowed to remain inside the residence during the search.  Likewise, so would his legal representatives.  The fact that they did not should by itself disqualify any evidence gathered, and should leave the FBI vulnerable to a civil suit.
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Re: BREAKING>>FBI raids Trump’s Mar-a-Lago
« Reply #677 on: August 10, 2022, 02:18:07 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on August 10, 2022, 01:28:22 pm
No one is attacking state sovereignty least of all Texas! That lawsuit was about Pennsylvania's violations of the FEDERAL constitution ( and SCOTUS had original jurisdiction! @roamer_1

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Absolutely correct @Bigun !!

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Re: BREAKING>>FBI raids Trump’s Mar-a-Lago
« Reply #678 on: August 10, 2022, 02:18:51 pm »
Quote from: sneakypete on August 10, 2022, 02:14:03 pm
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That can't possibly be legal.

It's a gross violation of Trump's rights!
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Re: BREAKING>>FBI raids Trump’s Mar-a-Lago
« Reply #679 on: August 10, 2022, 02:24:50 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on August 10, 2022, 02:18:51 pm
It's a gross violation of Trump's rights!

Rights?

That term will be a relic of the past in no time.
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Re: BREAKING>>FBI raids Trump’s Mar-a-Lago
« Reply #680 on: August 10, 2022, 02:27:43 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on August 10, 2022, 02:24:50 pm
Rights?

That term will be a relic of the past in no time.

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Not true!

We will have all the rights our masters are willing to allow us.
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Re: BREAKING>>FBI raids Trump’s Mar-a-Lago
« Reply #681 on: August 10, 2022, 02:39:30 pm »
Quote from: mountaineer on August 10, 2022, 01:28:37 am
They rummaged through Melania's clothing. Weirdos.

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Re: BREAKING>>FBI raids Trump’s Mar-a-Lago
« Reply #682 on: August 10, 2022, 02:45:28 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on August 10, 2022, 02:17:37 pm
It's not.  A person has a right to an attorney.  That attorney is their legal representative.  If Trump had been home at the time, he would have been allowed to remain inside the residence during the search.  Likewise, so would his legal representatives.  The fact that they did not should by itself disqualify any evidence gathered, and should leave the FBI vulnerable to a civil suit.

Any "evidence" is questionable. How do we know it's not planted? In addition to not allowing Trump's legal representatives to watch the search they turned off all interior cameras.
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Re: BREAKING>>FBI raids Trump’s Mar-a-Lago
« Reply #683 on: August 10, 2022, 03:00:49 pm »
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Re: BREAKING>>FBI raids Trump’s Mar-a-Lago
« Reply #684 on: August 10, 2022, 03:01:35 pm »
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« Reply #685 on: August 10, 2022, 03:06:40 pm »
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Re: BREAKING>>FBI raids Trump’s Mar-a-Lago
« Reply #686 on: August 10, 2022, 03:08:40 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on August 10, 2022, 01:07:25 pm
August 9, 2022 11:01pm EDT
Rep. Eric Swalwell: Republicans ‘fomenting violence,’ ‘chaos’ in wake of FBI’s Trump raid
Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida was raided by the FBI on Monday
By Alexander Hall | Fox News

   https://www.foxnews.com/media/rep-eric-swalwell-republicans-fomenting-violence-chaos-wake-fbis-trump-raid

I'll never forget the way Trump supporters went on a wild looting and arson spree yesterday, murdering cops all along the way.

Oh, wait....
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Re: BREAKING>>FBI raids Trump’s Mar-a-Lago
« Reply #687 on: August 10, 2022, 03:11:26 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on August 10, 2022, 02:17:37 pm
If Trump had been home at the time, he would have been allowed to remain inside the residence during the search.

I don't think that sentence is true.  Cops ALWAYS remove the suspect from the premises during a search.
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Re: BREAKING>>FBI raids Trump’s Mar-a-Lago
« Reply #688 on: August 10, 2022, 03:12:59 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on August 10, 2022, 03:08:40 pm
I'll never forget the way Trump supporters went on a wild looting and arson spree yesterday, murdering cops all along the way.

Oh, wait....

Exactly.
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« Reply #689 on: August 10, 2022, 03:21:29 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on August 10, 2022, 03:11:26 pm
I don't think that sentence is true.  Cops ALWAYS remove the suspect from the premises during a search.

Nope.  I have known several people who had cops kick down their doors with warrants, and each and every time without exception, the person was made to sit in the living room while the search took place.  It is only in an instance where the person chooses to interfere with the search that they will be removed from the premise.
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Re: BREAKING>>FBI raids Trump’s Mar-a-Lago
« Reply #690 on: August 10, 2022, 03:24:38 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on August 10, 2022, 03:21:29 pm
Nope.  I have known several people who had cops kick down their doors with warrants, and each and every time without exception, the person was made to sit in the living room while the search took place.  It is only in an instance where the person chooses to interfere with the search that they will be removed from the premise.

I have no personal experience (so far).
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Re: BREAKING>>FBI raids Trump’s Mar-a-Lago
« Reply #691 on: August 10, 2022, 03:27:17 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on August 10, 2022, 03:24:38 pm
I have no personal experience (so far).

You should get out more.
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Re: BREAKING>>FBI raids Trump’s Mar-a-Lago
« Reply #692 on: August 10, 2022, 03:28:34 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on August 10, 2022, 03:21:29 pm
Nope.  I have known several people who had cops kick down their doors with warrants, and each and every time without exception, the person was made to sit in the living room while the search took place.  It is only in an instance where the person chooses to interfere with the search that they will be removed from the premise.

That may be more a matter of strategy by the police.  I don't believe that one has the right to be present in one's home when a search warrant is executed.  That being said, I believe that in many instances the cops want the person present so that, for example, they can arrest that person if what they named in the warrant is found in the house.  If one is good at reading body language, it can also be useful to have the owner present to read his/her "tells" about whether the searchers are getting near to the contraband being searched for.
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Re: BREAKING>>FBI raids Trump’s Mar-a-Lago
« Reply #693 on: August 10, 2022, 03:29:18 pm »
Eric Trump tells DailyMail.com what REALLY happened in FBI raid: President's son says 30 agents REFUSED to hand over warrant, kicked lawyer off property, rifled through clothes - and how Mar-a-Lago staff refused to turn off security cameras

    Eric Trump recounted the Monday raid of his father's Mar-a-Lago residence in an exclusive interview with DailyMail.com
    He said that they kicked Donald Trump's lawyer Christina Bobb off the property and made her wait at the end of a driveway during the raid
    Also said that FBI agents refused to provide a copy of the search warrant
    The former president's son said contrary to FBI direction, they refused to turn off security cameras at the Palm Beach estate

By Katelyn Caralle, U.S. Political Reporter For Dailymail.com

Published: 10:11 EDT, 10 August 2022 | Updated: 11:14 EDT, 10 August 2022

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Re: BREAKING>>FBI raids Trump’s Mar-a-Lago
« Reply #694 on: August 10, 2022, 03:29:37 pm »
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So Biden still claims he was left in the dark?  Amazing.
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Re: BREAKING>>FBI raids Trump’s Mar-a-Lago
« Reply #695 on: August 10, 2022, 03:30:56 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on August 10, 2022, 03:27:17 pm
You should get out more.

Before it is all over, I think anyone with poliical leanings right of center can expect some unwanted attention.......
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Re: BREAKING>>FBI raids Trump’s Mar-a-Lago
« Reply #696 on: August 10, 2022, 03:31:03 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on August 10, 2022, 03:27:17 pm
You should get out more.

Yeah.  I suspect I'll get a first-hand account in the next two years of Shortbus Joe's regime. 
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« Reply #697 on: August 10, 2022, 03:31:59 pm »
Quote from: Kamaji on August 10, 2022, 03:28:34 pm
That may be more a matter of strategy by the police.  I don't believe that one has the right to be present in one's home when a search warrant is executed.

The right of the people to be secure in their houses shall not be violated.
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Re: BREAKING>>FBI raids Trump’s Mar-a-Lago
« Reply #698 on: August 10, 2022, 03:32:28 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on August 10, 2022, 03:29:18 pm
Eric Trump tells DailyMail.com what REALLY happened in FBI raid: President's son says 30 agents REFUSED to hand over warrant, kicked lawyer off property, rifled through clothes - and how Mar-a-Lago staff refused to turn off security cameras

    Eric Trump recounted the Monday raid of his father's Mar-a-Lago residence in an exclusive interview with DailyMail.com
    He said that they kicked Donald Trump's lawyer Christina Bobb off the property and made her wait at the end of a driveway during the raid
    Also said that FBI agents refused to provide a copy of the search warrant
    The former president's son said contrary to FBI direction, they refused to turn off security cameras at the Palm Beach estate

By Katelyn Caralle, U.S. Political Reporter For Dailymail.com

Published: 10:11 EDT, 10 August 2022 | Updated: 11:14 EDT, 10 August 2022

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11099205/Eric-Trump-reveals-REALLY-happened-FBI-raid.html

One wonders what the security cameras show.
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Re: BREAKING>>FBI raids Trump’s Mar-a-Lago
« Reply #699 on: August 10, 2022, 03:32:38 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on August 10, 2022, 03:31:59 pm
The right of the people to be secure in their houses shall not be violated.

LMAO.....

That was the old days......
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