Don't assume school shooters are mentally ill

[mystery-ak]

May 28, 2022
Don't assume school shooters are mentally ill
By John Dale Dunn, M.D.

There is a lot of mumbo-jumbo psych talk circulating around the dead bodies in Uvalde, a town I knew pretty well because I consulted frequently with their hospital administrator.

I want to remind readers of the problem of personality disorders (P.D.) and distinguish P.D. from mental illness.

P.D. is pattern of anti-social or dysfunctional behavior caused not by mental illness, but by bad manners and bad social adaptation.  There are three groups of personality disorders.  In the emergency medicine part of my life, I taught residents that P.D.s are the weird, the wild, and the withdrawn.

The killers and criminals are usually in the wild group, who are the most anti-social and disruptive.

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[jmyrlefuller]

I have a hard time wrapping my head around this claim:

Consider my warning: P.D.s are not a mental illness; they are a culturally dysfunctional behavior problem.  P.D. individuals are not psychotic or out of touch with reality — they just have a bad set of behavior and social controls.  They got messed up on the way to adulthood and functional good behavior.   

I don't know how any person who willingly takes the lives of multiple people and doesn't have enough of a conscience to stop himself (because for some odd reason only men ever get caught doing these things) is NOT at least sociopathic. "Social controls" are not the solution for this, and the disaster that was 2020 should have proved that.

[Kamaji]

P.D. is more than just "bad manners and bad social adaptation".  It may start with that, but when P.D. is the diagnosis, it is a mental illness.

[GtHawk]

P.D. is more than just "bad manners and bad social adaptation".  It may start with that, but when P.D. is the diagnosis, it is a mental illness.

Yeah, for some reason I think P.D.'s are treated by a mental health professional and not enrollment in miss manners finishing school for a reason.

Not a mental illness he says, but:

The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5), which is the standard reference publication for recognized mental illnesses, organizes the 10 types of personality disorders into three main clusters

Who is this MD trying to cover for and why?

[Smokin Joe]

Maybe not all mentally ill.

I suppose Demonic Possession is a possibility. 

[Gefn]

P.D. is more than just "bad manners and bad social adaptation".  It may start with that, but when P.D. is the diagnosis, it is a mental illness.

I believe according to the DSM 5 P.D is not considered a mental illness. Any psych majors here?