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The simple truth is, had the school police not shown up, more children would have lived.

Sadly, that appears to be the bottom line.
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The simple truth is, had the school police not shown up, more children would have lived.

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Sadly,I have to agree with that. All they did was get in the way of the people trying to save the children.

I HAVE to believe they did this because they were ORDERED to do this. This sort of thing CAN'T just happen by accident. That would be impossible.
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Had the Sheriff/Police not shown up, more children would have lived. They interpreted their job was to 'protect' the shooter against the parents and the public.
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
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Had the Sheriff/Police not shown up, more children would have lived. They interpreted their job was to 'protect' the shooter against the parents and the public.

I'm sure they considered the possibility that the shooter was an aspiring hip hop artist going back to school, trying to improve his life.
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We got rid of toxic masculinity and ended up with 19 police officers standing down in a Texas schoolhouse with a crazed gunman

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The simple truth is, had the school police not shown up not existed, more children would have lived.

I respectfully offer the above small correction @DB
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

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Well, unfortunately I am old ... and seasoned with crazy insane experiences across the very Earth itself.
I know failure. I know regret. Every morning these guys wake up they will hear that gunfire.
They will know another child died.
They will see the blood and the bodies every day.
They may have saved their own lives, but at what cost? How will they live with that?
A coward dies a thousand times ... in his mind. I wish them all long life and good health. May they live forever.
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
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I HAVE to believe they did this because they were ORDERED to do this. This sort of thing CAN'T just happen by accident. That would be impossible.

Hey,, it got high gas and food prices off the front page.
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Hey,, it got high gas and food prices off the front page.


J6 hearings too, had only one purpose.  Distract from historic economic disaster unfolding.

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Published: June 21, 2022 at 2:49 PM

Officer husband of slain Uvalde teacher was detained, had gun taken away after trying to save wife
Texas DPS director said Eva Mireles told her husband she ‘had been shot and was dying’



UVALDE, Texas – Shocking testimony from the Texas DPS director on Tuesday has revealed even more insight into the “abject failure” of response to the Uvalde shooting that occurred on May 24.

Texas Department of Public Safety Director Col. Steven McCraw revealed that the husband of slain elementary teacher Eva Mireles tried to save her but was barred from doing so.

Ruben Ruiz is a police officer for the school district and was on the scene after the gunman entered the school and opened fire.

McCraw said Mireles called Ruiz and told him that “she had been shot and was dying.”

“And what happened to him, is he tried to move forward into the hallway,” McCraw said. “He was detained and they took his gun away from him and escorted him off the scene.”

McCraw didn’t say who specifically detained Ruiz.

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2022/06/21/officer-husband-of-slain-uvalde-teacher-was-detained-had-gun-taken-away-after-trying-to-save-wife/
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The simple truth is, had the school police not shown up, more children would have lived.
Or take care of things yourself and do not let anybody get in your way if your family is threatened.
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Mary Claire Patton, Digital Journalist

Published: June 21, 2022 at 2:49 PM

Officer husband of slain Uvalde teacher was detained, had gun taken away after trying to save wife
Texas DPS director said Eva Mireles told her husband she ‘had been shot and was dying’



UVALDE, Texas – Shocking testimony from the Texas DPS director on Tuesday has revealed even more insight into the “abject failure” of response to the Uvalde shooting that occurred on May 24.

Texas Department of Public Safety Director Col. Steven McCraw revealed that the husband of slain elementary teacher Eva Mireles tried to save her but was barred from doing so.

Ruben Ruiz is a police officer for the school district and was on the scene after the gunman entered the school and opened fire.

McCraw said Mireles called Ruiz and told him that “she had been shot and was dying.”

“And what happened to him, is he tried to move forward into the hallway,” McCraw said. “He was detained and they took his gun away from him and escorted him off the scene.”

McCraw didn’t say who specifically detained Ruiz.

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2022/06/21/officer-husband-of-slain-uvalde-teacher-was-detained-had-gun-taken-away-after-trying-to-save-wife/

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June 22, 2022 7:06pm EDT
Uvalde school police chief placed on administrative leave as criticism grows over response to shooting
A Texas DPS official accused Pete Arredondo of placing 'the lives of officers before the lives of children' during the Uvalde school shooting
By Paul Best | Fox News

    Pete Arredondo, the incident commander at Robb Elementary School when 19 children and two adults were killed last month, has been placed on administrative leave, Uvalde Independent School District Superintendent Hal Harrell announced Wednesday.

"From the beginning of this horrible event, I shared that the district would wait until the investigation was complete before making personnel decisions," Harrell explained. "Today, I am still without details of the investigations being conducted by various agencies. Because of the lack of clarity that remains and the unknown timing of when I will receive the results of the investigations, I have made the decision to place Chief Arredondo on administrative leave effective on this date."

Arredondo has been sharply criticized by everyone from Texas Department of Public Safety Director Steven McCraw to parents in the Uvalde community for his response to last month's shooting.

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Those goobers had better drop down to their knees and offer prayers of thanks to whatever they pray to that it wasn't me they were trying to stop.
His wife was beautiful. It isn't over 'till it's over.

He knows who disarmed him and dragged him out.
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His wife was beautiful. It isn't over 'till it's over.

He knows who disarmed him and dragged him out.
Yep, somebody will pay for her murder.
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Anybody care to speculate on the type of people who serve in these public school district police departments?
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Anybody care to speculate on the type of people who serve in these public school district police departments?

Those who failed the qualifications for prison guard.
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Those who failed the qualifications for prison guard.

And the requirements for ANY other form of law enforcement.
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

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Anybody care to speculate on the type of people who serve in these public school district police departments?
Substitute actors for Don Knox?
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Anybody care to speculate on the type of people who serve in these public school district police departments?
In my district, they are actual members of the County Sheriffs department, and go through the exact same training as regular officers, plus they have additional training because they are also working with kids in middle and elementary schools.
Lets not be in a rush to condemn all officers because of the actions of some people in the Uvalde and Broward county.
Denigrate the ones that deserve it, but lets not tar everyone with the same brush.
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In my district, they are actual members of the County Sheriffs department, and go through the exact same training as regular officers, plus they have additional training because they are also working with kids in middle and elementary schools.
Lets not be in a rush to condemn all officers because of the actions of some people in the Uvalde and Broward county.
Denigrate the ones that deserve it, but lets not tar everyone with the same brush.

That's good @verga but let me assure you that it is not the norm.
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Those who failed the qualifications for prison guard.
I was thinking Crossing Guard, because crossing guards have to actually protect kids.

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In my district, they are actual members of the County Sheriffs department, and go through the exact same training as regular officers, plus they have additional training because they are also working with kids in middle and elementary schools.
Lets not be in a rush to condemn all officers because of the actions of some people in the Uvalde and Broward county.
Denigrate the ones that deserve it, but lets not tar everyone with the same brush.
Fair enough, on a case by case basis.
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C S Lewis