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Are you an Apocaloptimist?

Yes, always. or otherwise, what is the point?
4 (19%)
No, my doubts are beginning to outweigh my hope
7 (33.3%)
I question everything, including your stupid poll
10 (47.6%)

Total Members Voted: 18

Voting closed: June 21, 2022, 07:39:47 pm

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Are you an Apocaloptimist?
« on: May 22, 2022, 07:39:47 pm »
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Re: Are you an Apocaloptimist?
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2022, 08:45:31 pm »
Dearest @corbe

Where is the 420 option? Just kidding.  what444
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Re: Are you an Apocaloptimist?
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2022, 11:02:43 pm »
   It was a Stoners forgetfulness @Gefn
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Re: Are you an Apocaloptimist?
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2022, 12:39:43 am »
   It was a Stoners forgetfulness @Gefn

No worries, this is a good poll.

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Re: Are you an Apocaloptimist?
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2022, 09:57:14 pm »
You left off one option I could have voted for....What day is it? happy77

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Re: Are you an Apocaloptimist?
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2022, 05:00:15 pm »
   Seems as good a place as any to put this:

Here Are 11 Statistics That Show How U.S. Consumers Are Faring In This Rapidly Deteriorating Economy

May 25, 2022 by Michael


Prices are soaring, there are widespread shortages of certain items such as baby formula all over the nation, and at the same time U.S. economic activity appears to be really slowing down.  Considering all of that, it makes perfect sense why the American people are feeling so negative about the economy right now.  In fact, a whopping 85 percent of all Americans believe that there will be a recession within the next year.  These days, it is virtually impossible to get Americans to overwhelmingly agree about anything, and so the fact that 85 percent of us are anticipating a recession is a really big deal.  Just about everyone realizes that economic conditions are going to get worse, but for those of you that still doubt where we are headed here are 11 statistics that show how U.S. consumers are faring in this rapidly deteriorating economy…

#1 According to a Harvard CAPS/Harris Poll that was recently conducted, 56 percent of Americans say that their financial situations are getting worse, and only 20 percent of Americans say that their financial situations are improving.

#2 Another new survey has just discovered that 66 percent of Americans “have avoided social events because they’ve felt embarrassed or uncomfortable” about their financial situations.

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http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/here-are-11-statistics-that-show-how-u-s-consumers-are-faring-in-this-rapidly-deteriorating-economy/

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Re: Are you an Apocaloptimist?
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2022, 05:17:53 pm »
Americans can agree if they are asked selectively worded questions about specifics.

But politicians, pollsters, and media manufacture disagreement by conducting polls using broad questions peppered with political dog whistles.

The same happened in the 1990s with the East Coast vs West Coast alleged rap feud that saw Big E Smalls and Tupac Shakur murdered.  Until then, the industry's stakeholders encouraged the feud to boost interest, ratings, sales, and profits.

Much the same, the over-consolidated corporate comglomerate-owned media empires and the centralized, consolidated donor-owned political parties create and exaggerate disagreement to get viewers, votes, ratings, donations, and profits.

If Americans were in a agreement, imagine how many political science majors would be flipping burgers.
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Re: Are you an Apocaloptimist?
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2022, 03:58:46 pm »
   The Gods of the Copybook Headings

As I pass through my incarnations in every age and race,
I make my proper prostrations to the Gods of the Market-Place.
Peering through reverent fingers I watch them flourish and fall,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I notice, outlast them all.

We were living in trees when they met us. They showed us each in turn
That Water would certainly wet us, as Fire would certainly burn:
But we found them lacking in Uplift, Vision and Breadth of Mind,
So we left them to teach the Gorillas while we followed the March of Mankind.

We moved as the Spirit listed. They never altered their pace,
Being neither cloud nor wind-borne like the Gods of the Market Place,
But they always caught up with our progress, and presently word would come
That a tribe had been wiped off its icefield, or the lights had gone out in Rome.

With the Hopes that our World is built on they were utterly out of touch.
They denied that the Moon was Stilton; they denied she was even Dutch.
They denied that Wishes were Horses; they denied that a Pig had Wings.
So we worshipped the Gods of the Market Who promised these beautiful things.

When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "Stick to the Devil you know."

On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life
(Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife)
Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "The Wages of Sin is Death."

In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "If you don't work you die."
 
Then the Gods of the Market tumbled, and their smooth-tongued wizards withdrew,
And the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true
That All is not Gold that Glitters, and Two and Two make Four—
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain it once more.

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man—
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began:—
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;

And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return.

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Re: Are you an Apocaloptimist?
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2022, 02:02:55 pm »
I'm a realist.  Things are continuing to go to schit and those that think that miraculously the leftists and globalists are going to give up their chokehold on this country are dreaming.
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Re: Are you an Apocaloptimist?
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2022, 09:40:46 pm »
I've been around long enough to realize that things, in fact, do not turn out okay. If they do, you're incredibly lucky.
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Re: Are you an Apocaloptimist?
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2022, 09:55:44 pm »
    It is the season for Comanche Raids, isn't it?



   That is what's becoming of what little is left of my optimism.
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Re: Are you an Apocaloptimist?
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2022, 03:51:51 pm »
Stocks, Bonds, Crypto, and Real Estate: The Whole House of Cards Is Coming Down

by Mike Adams June 16, 2022 in Opinions


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The Fed raised interest rates by 0.75% today (75 basis points), fulfilling their promise to attempt to reverse the runaway inflation that they caused in the first place by printing trillions of dollars and flooding the markets with cheap or nearly-free funds (zero percent interest rates, for example).

As of right now, America’s real estate bubble is now in the process of a catastrophic collapse. The stock market is collapsing and the crypto universe is absolutely imploding. “The crypto apocalypse is here,” writes Michael Snyder from End of the American Dream:

Over the last seven months, we have witnessed a cryptocurrency collapse that is so epic that it is truly difficult to put it into words… approximately two-thirds of the value of all cryptocurrencies has already been wiped out.  Some are calling this a “crash”, but the truth is that this is the sort of full-blown “collapse” that so many have been warning about for such a long time.  A lot of crypto investors are now deeply in the red, and the outlook for the months ahead is very bleak.

Meanwhile, the average stock portfolio is down 31% this year alone, and the downside still remaining now looks like a deep, ominous chasm of financial devastation that’s going to suck the vast majority of American into financial destitution.

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https://noqreport.com/2022/06/16/stocks-bonds-crypto-and-real-estate-the-whole-house-of-cards-is-coming-down/
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Re: Are you an Apocaloptimist?
« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2022, 04:12:28 pm »
Normally I am, but that all changes while the democrats are in power.

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Re: Are you an Apocaloptimist?
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2022, 02:51:30 pm »
No government in the 12,000 years of modern mankind history has led its people into anything but the history books with a simple lesson, don't let this happen to you.