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[Hoodat]

And the Ukranian politcal machine is pure as snow based on your continuous line of non-sequiturs.

Nope.  Never made that claim.

[libertybele]

I wonder which CRISIS Joe continues to feed is costing us more, the one at our border or the one in Ukraine.

[sneakypete]

So you still have zero evidence that US tax dollars were involved in an alleged unproven event.

@Hoodat

Just out of curiosity,just where do YOU think all those crisp,new 100 dollar bills came from?

[Hoodat]

@Hoodat

Just out of curiosity,just where do YOU think all those crisp,new 100 dollar bills came from?

@sneakypete

Don't you think we should first find out what they represent?  Someone took a photo of suitcases full of money, and then posted it along side a picture of Kotvytskyy's non-pregnant wife - the same wife who allegedly gave birth a couple of weeks after this story was posted.  The story would have more credibility if there was a single follow-up story to this posted anywhere.  Maybe a story where the Hungarian government levied a fine for violating customs laws.  Or where his wife was living large on the South coast of France.  But no such story exists.  Only this one uncorroborated hit piece from three months ago.

But for the sake of argument, if this story was legit, then I would assume he siphoned the money off his business or was involved in some corrupt business dealings.  And anyone moving large quantities of cash is going to use $100 bills.

By the way, $28 million in $100 bills would weigh over 600 pounds.  That's a heck of a lot of weight for a woman who is eight months pregnant to schlep across the border.  Even a skunk can smell bullshit here.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Michael Tracey
@mtracey

In another strategic victory for Ukraine, Russia has seized the entire Luhansk province

10:17 AM · Jul 3, 2022·Twitter Web App

[sneakypete]

@sneakypete

Don't you think we should first find out what they represent? 

@Hoodat

Money always represents power and wealth.

Someone took a photo of suitcases full of money, and then posted it along side a picture of Kotvytskyy's non-pregnant wife - the same wife who allegedly gave birth a couple of weeks after this story was posted.  The story would have more credibility if there was a single follow-up story to this posted anywhere.  Maybe a story where the Hungarian government levied a fine for violating customs laws.  Or where his wife was living large on the South coast of France.  But no such story exists.  Only this one uncorroborated hit piece from three months ago.

I agree. It just doesn't add up.


 

By the way, $28 million in $100 bills would weigh over 600 pounds.  That's a heck of a lot of weight for a woman who is eight months pregnant to schlep across the border. 

I agree,but AFAIK,no one is claiming SHE was actually carrying the suitcases around herself. You just don't see wealthy women even carrying a suitcase with clothes in it. That is what minions are for.

Even a skunk can smell bullshit here.

There does seem to be a lot of it that is questionable.

[Hoodat]

Michael Tracey
@mtracey

In another strategic victory for Ukraine, Russia has seized the entire Luhansk province

10:17 AM · Jul 3, 2022·Twitter Web App

Quite a transition in the rhetoric here.  Russia is now considered an invader and conqueror.  Quite a contrast with that 'Putin is a liberator and protector' bullshit we've been fed since February.

[sneakypete]

Michael Tracey
@mtracey

In another strategic victory for Ukraine, Russia has seized the entire Luhansk province

10:17 AM · Jul 3, 2022·Twitter Web App

@Right_in_Virginia

Somebody PLEASE tell me I am not the only one confused by that sentence.

[Hoodat]

Turkey detains Russian-flagged grain ship from Ukraine

BBC News  |  1 day ago

A cargo ship carrying grain from a Russian-occupied region of Ukraine has been detained by Turkish customs authorities, according to Ukraine's ambassador to Turkey.[/b]

Vasyl Bodnar says "We have full co-operation. The ship is currently standing at the entrance to the port, it has been detained by the customs authorities of Turkey".

We've tracked the Russian-flagged ship, the Zhibek Zholy, on its route from the Ukrainian port of Berdyansk, to Karasu on the Turkish Black Sea coast.

It is not clear where its cargo came from or how it was obtained, but Russia has been accused of stealing grain from areas of Ukraine it controls - allegations Russia denies.  .  .



https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62010113

[Right_in_Virginia]

Quite a transition in the rhetoric here.  Russia is now considered an invader and conqueror.  Quite a contrast with that 'Putin is a liberator and protector' bullshit we've been fed since February.

No, @Hoodat   Michael Tracey is ridiculing the usual, disingenuous coverage of Ukraine's military defeats ----- which is more commoplace than even previously thought   

Michael Tracey
@mtracey

In another strategic victory for Ukraine, Russia has seized the entire Luhansk province

10:17 AM · Jul 3, 2022·Twitter Web App

cc:  @sneakypete

[Hoodat]

I'm having difficulty reconciling the term 'liberated' with the term 'seized'.  The two do not describe the same thing.

[Kamaji]

[sneakypete]

 Russia has seized the entire Luhansk province

cc:  @sneakypete

@Right_in_Virginia

And it only took them how many months to do this?

And how many Russian soldiers,Russian Generals,Russian tanks,and Russia ships did it cost them to accomplish this great feat?

[Cyber Liberty]

@Right_in_Virginia

And it only took them how many months to do this?

And how many Russian soldiers,Russian Generals,Russian tanks,and Russia ships did it cost them to accomplish this great feat?

It's the Revenge of Pyrrhus.

[Right_in_Virginia]

@Right_in_Virginia

And it only took them how many months to do this?

And how many Russian soldiers,Russian Generals,Russian tanks,and Russia ships did it cost them to accomplish this great feat?

Not the point @sneakypete   Not even close to it.   

[Kamaji]

Russian journalist is locked up in Siberian psychiatric hospital after posting ‘sane people are for peace in Ukraine’

By WILL STEWART FOR MAILONLINE
4 July 2022

A Russian journalist accused of posting 'sane people are for peace' about Vladimir Putin’s war in Ukraine has been locked in a Siberian clinical psychiatric hospital.

Maria Ponomarenko, a 44-year-old mother of two, claims the authorities are seeking to gag her because of her opposition to the war.

She is accused of spreading 'fake' news concerning Putin’s 'special military operation' in Ukraine.

One comment seen as against the law by prosecutors said: 'It is impossible to remain silent, knowing about the death of thousands of innocent people.'

Her 'fake' Telegram posts also included critical comments about the Russian bombing of a drama theatre in Mariupol in April where hundreds of civilians were sheltering.

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10980677/Russian-journalist-locked-psychiatric-hospital-posting-sane-people-peace.html

[Kamaji]

@Right_in_Virginia

And it only took them how many months to do this?

And how many Russian soldiers, Russian Generals, Russian tanks, and Russia ships did it cost them to accomplish this great feat?

And then there's the question of holding on to it.

[Hoodat]

And then there's the question of holding on to it.

Holding onto it?  Nonsense.  Putin is a "liberator" and a "protector".  'Seizing' and 'Holding' are not part of his MO.

[Kamaji]

Holding onto it?  Nonsense.  Putin is a "liberator" and a "protector".  'Seizing' and 'Holding' are not part of his MO.

Ahh.  My bad.

[Right_in_Virginia]

thebradfordfile
@thebradfordfile

We should be electing people to congress who are more interested in saving their own country than laundering billions in Ukraine.

5:11 PM · Jul 4, 2022·TweetDeck

[Hoodat]

thebradfordfile
@thebradfordfile

We should be electing people to congress who are more interested in saving their own country than laundering billions in Ukraine.

See Logical Fallacies:  Red Herring

[bilo]

@Right_in_Virginia

And it only took them how many months to do this?

And how many Russian soldiers,Russian Generals,Russian tanks,and Russia ships did it cost them to accomplish this great feat?

Not enough!

Russia is the evil invader in this war. In the long term the only answer is to push them out of Ukraine. Anything less and you are inviting further aggression in the future. The Ukrainians are paying a terrible price trying to preserve their sovereignty but to their credit they have shown no willingness to quit. As long as they are willing to fight it's in our best interest to give them the weapons to do so.

[libertybele]

thebradfordfile
@thebradfordfile

We should be electing people to congress who are more interested in saving their own country than laundering billions in Ukraine.

5:11 PM · Jul 4, 2022·TweetDeck

Amen!!!  I couldn't agree more.

[Hoodat]

Market hit as Russians shell frontline city Slovyansk

1 hour ago


The Slovyansk mayor posted this photo of the market blaze

Russian shelling has set fire to the central market in Ukraine's eastern city of Slovyansk, killing one person and injuring seven, the mayor says.

Vadym Lyakh says the city is being hit by Russian artillery salvoes from closer positions, as it becomes the conflict's latest frontline.

He posted photos of the blaze on Facebook, describing massive shelling, and urging people to stay in shelters.

Russia is seeking to control all of the eastern industrial Donbas area.

The area comprises the regions of Luhansk and Donetsk, and President Vladimir Putin claims it to be part of Russia.

On Monday, Ukraine's military says it had to pull out of Lysychansk, its last remaining stronghold in Luhansk, under intense Russian fire.  .  .

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62051585

[Hoodat]

The Ukrainians are paying a terrible price trying to preserve their sovereignty but to their credit they have shown no willingness to quit. As long as they are willing to fight it's in our best interest to give them the weapons to do so.

Correctamundo!