Should Zielinsky Give in to Putin’s Demands?

[mystery-ak]

March 12, 2022
Should Zielinsky Give in to Putin’s Demands?
By James Nollet

As things stand now, Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zielinsky has no intention of accepting Putin’s demands, and the whole world supports that decision, but since the world will not get involved directly and militarily, its “support” might not mean so much.

So should Zielinsky give in to Putin’s demands, considering that Putin has promised a ceasefire if he does?

What are the demands?  There are various reports.  Does the MSM get its facts right?  And even if it does, do the demands change with time?

There was this story the other day in The New York Post that stated, Putin offered this bare, simple deal to Zielinsky:

Russia has told Ukraine it will halt its invasion “in a moment” if Kyiv agrees to give up three key regions, President Vladimir Putin’s spokesperson said Monday.

Moscow is demanding Ukraine cease military action, acknowledge Crimea as Russian territory and recognize the separatist republics of Donetsk and Lugansk as independent states.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Ukraine was aware of the demands.

“They were told that all this can be stopped in a moment,” Peskov told Reuters in a phone interview.

This story itself said near its end that it’s more involved than that, but for the moment, let’s suppose that these are all of Putin’s demands.  Then the question is, should Zielinsky accept these demands?

I say, yes he should, and here is why:

Let’s consider each demand in turn.

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https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/03/should_zielinsky_give_in_to_putins_demands.html

[Fishrrman]

A thoughtful, interesting article and the writer makes good points.

At this point, some kind of truce and a negotiated solution that addresses the Russian demands is the only way to prevent the further destruction of Ukraine.

The Ukrainians can fight to the last man if they want, but they'll end up with little more than a decimated population, millions dispersed as refugees, and a destroyed country. If they win, it will a Pyrrhic Victory -- except for the fact that they can't win.

The Russians CAN "win", if they press on. But for them, too, the costs may prove to be more than the conflict was worth. They've "made their point" already (too much so), inflicting enough damage upon Ukraine to make clear that any road to peace will be paved with Russian terms. Time to declare a conditional cease fire (the "condition" should be that the Ukrainians observe it as well), and withdraw to their "claimed territories" (Crimea and the Donbas).

Then find a suitable intermediary and work out the details of a negotiated solution.

I realize this position is not popular in this forum.
But that's how I see it, and that's how I'm callin' it.

[DB]

That's all well and good until Putin decides he wants more next year.

It isn't like he'll keep his word. It was his word they relied on when they handed over their nukes to him. Ukraine has never posed any threat to Russia period.

Eaten quickly or eaten slowly is still being eaten.

[Kamaji]

That's all well and good until Putin decides he wants more next year.

It isn't like he'll keep his word. It was his word they relied on when they handed over their nukes to him. Ukraine has never posed any threat to Russia period.

Eaten quickly or eaten slowly is still being eaten.

[Hoodat]

This story itself said near its end that it’s more involved than that, but for the moment, let’s suppose that these are all of Putin’s demands.  Then the question is, should Zielinsky accept these demands?

They're not all of Putin's demands.  And no, Ukraine should not accept them.  In fact, they don't accept them.  Zelenskyy is but one man, and a dead one if he caves to Putin.  But Ukraine as a whole is rejecting Putin, his demands, and his army.  So Putin can pound sand while his army gets destroyed on the ground and his country falls apart.  When this is over, Sevastopol will be a Ukrainian city again.

[EdinVA]

If the people that want to live in russia simply move there then why should ukraine give up territory?  I suspect putin has other objectives in mind rather than simply catering to "separatists"...

[Smokin Joe]

Someone kicks down your door, invades three rooms of your house, tears up your stuff, injures or kills members of your household, and demands you give up those three rooms, or they will keep breaking things.

Do you give in?

OH, HELL NO!

[Smokin Joe]

If the people that want to live in russia simply move there then why should ukraine give up territory?  I suspect putin has other objectives in mind rather than simply catering to "separatists"...

87% of Ukraine's oil production is in the eastern provinces.

Motive enough?

[Hoodat]

87% of Ukraine's oil production is in the eastern provinces.

Motive enough?

Basically, one of his oil oligarch buddies got greedy and wanted the Ukraine oil fields along with access to the Crimean port of Sevastopol.  So he persuaded Putin to invade in exchange for a cut of the profits.  Putin has been biding his time.  But with the abject weakness of the US combined with the high price of oil, it was too tempting to pass up.