Democrats Pass $1.5 Trillion Omnibus Spending Bill After Democrat Disarray

[catfish1957]

Your recollection is stone dead wrong.

Would I rather Democrats spend us into annihilation or Republicans spend us into annihilation?

The answer is obvious. Because only one of those two is supposed to fight for fiscal conservatism. If Republicans are spending us into annihilation,  believe me, the democrats will let them.

In fact, the opposite is true too - Which is why I am so adamantly against big government spending on the right.
If the Right will not fight for fiscal conservatism, then firstly, it is NOT the RIGHT. And finally - there is no one else to guard the principle. And if the 'Right' has once again refused its charter, then I will have naught to do with it, and will rightly find it the same scourge as the liberals - because it is.

Quietly, and without much fanfare our DC polecats are turning our currency into monopoly money status. 

When it hits the fan, the sheeple won't know what hit 'em.....

[roamer_1]

Quietly, and without much fanfare our DC polecats are turning our currency into monopoly money status. 

When it hits the fan, the sheeple won't know what hit 'em.....

That's right.

[DB]

Unfortunately the problem lies with the voters who vote for this crap.

Voters are too ignorant/blind/stupid to survive long term. The free shit crowd now out numbers the rest of us. And they're going to take us with them.

[roamer_1]

Unfortunately the problem lies with the voters who vote for this crap.

Voters are too ignorant/blind/stupid to survive long term. The free shit crowd now out numbers the rest of us. And they're going to take us with them.

You mean the 'free shit' crowd on the right then... Because it is the Right that is supposed to defend fiscal responsibility. It is the Right that purports to be against printing money 24/7 ... It is the Right that is supposed to be for balanced budgets and reducing the weight of government.

The Right is NOT doing that anymore.
and it seems those who say they are on the right are just fine with it. Especially when it is their guys spending the money.

[DB]

You mean the 'free shit' crowd on the right then... Because it is the Right that is supposed to defend fiscal responsibility. It is the Right that purports to be against printing money 24/7 ... It is the Right that is supposed to be for balanced budgets and reducing the weight of government.

The Right is NOT doing that anymore.
and it seems those who say they are on the right are just fine with it. Especially when it is their guys spending the money.

The free shit crowd is far and wide. Trump said "government" is going to pay for healthcare for the 20% who can't afford it... What is that, about 75 million people... And "conservatives" cheered him on. Government "pays" for nothing.

[roamer_1]

The free shit crowd is far and wide. Trump said "government" is going to pay for healthcare for the 20% who can't afford it... What is that, about 75 million people... And "conservatives" cheered him on. Government "pays" for nothing.

It SURE is now. Print more money. Go ahead. It'll all work out. 

[Hoodat]

You mean the 'free shit' crowd on the right then... Because it is the Right that is supposed to defend fiscal responsibility. It is the Right that purports to be against printing money 24/7 ... It is the Right that is supposed to be for balanced budgets and reducing the weight of government.

The Right is NOT doing that anymore.
and it seems those who say they are on the right are just fine with it. Especially when it is their guys spending the money.

The Right that is supposed to defend fiscal responsibility is the same Right that just brought earmarks back.

[roamer_1]

The Right that is supposed to defend fiscal responsibility is the same Right that just brought earmarks back.

I will reiterate: THROW THE BASTARDS OUT. ALL OF EM.

[catfish1957]

It SURE is now. Print more money. Go ahead. It'll all work out. 

I wish I could find a graph of a percentage of entitlement junkies in this country.

Anecedotally, 25 years ago, I'd guess that percentage was 20-25%.  Now I am almost certain it has crossed the 50% threshold.

Guess what happens when 50%+ keep voting for free shit.  There eventually becomes less free shit, and we will be at the point when society unravels.   I'm guessing this happens when the majority of the world decouples from what pretty much has become a "worthless" $USD as currency.

That's the SHTF tipping point.

[Hoodat]

I wish I could find a graph of a percentage of entitlement junkies in this country.

Anecedotally, 25 years ago, I'd guess that percentage was 20-25%.  Now I am almost certain it has crossed the 50% threshold.

It has.  The taxpayers are now a slave class to the non-taxpayers.  The majority can impose any spending increase for themselves.  And they can impose any tax increase they desire on the minority without it directly affecting them.

To put it another way, every single dollar paid in federal income tax goes directly to another individual as a cash payment.  And that still doesn't cover what is being paid out in direct 'entitlements' [sic].

[roamer_1]

I wish I could find a graph of a percentage of entitlement junkies in this country.

Anecedotally, 25 years ago, I'd guess that percentage was 20-25%.  Now I am almost certain it has crossed the 50% threshold.

Guess what happens when 50%+ keep voting for free shit.  There eventually becomes less free shit, and we will be at the point when society unravels.   I'm guessing this happens when the majority of the world decouples from what pretty much has become a "worthless" $USD as currency.

That's the SHTF tipping point.

Add to that the third of the population that works for government and has an interest in continuing Big.gov, ad it's a perfect storm - Soon to become unstoppable (if it ain't already right now).

The crater will be wide and deep.

[christian]

roamer1

NOPE. Not interested in big-government Republicans. I would rather it was the Democrats spending us into annihilation, and leave the damn Republicans in the corner with the Dunce cap on.

christian:
So right in your face as stated, it is better for Americas annhilation, and as they got Biden the Presidency, inflation like Nazi Germany overshadows us now.  As stated many of you got your way, such old evils are upon us AGAIN.  look around you, those you know will start looking like a future dinner.  YOu wanted it, you fought for it, you will dine by it.  Coals upon your heads......

[roamer_1]

roamer1
christian:
So right in your face as stated, it is better for Americas annhilation, and as they got Biden the Presidency, inflation like Nazi Germany overshadows us now.  As stated many of you got your way, such old evils are upon us AGAIN.  look around you, those you know will start looking like a future dinner.  YOu wanted it, you fought for it, you will dine by it.  Coals upon your heads......

Bullshit. Words taken out of context, especially after being clarified, says more about you than me.

And that inflation is just as much out of Tumpy's outrageous spending as it is out of anyone. This inflation is largely spawned by printed debt... And your Republicans are just as guilty in that. FACTS.

And I am QUITE happy to withhold support from Republicans. Damn straight I am.
And I will continue to preach it. Worthless, feckless, betraying Republicans.

Had they done any damn thing while they had power, this time would not be as hard.
Like 8T added to that inflationary debt - Republican hands did that.

You want me to stop bitching? Start acting like Conservatives.

[Killer Clouds]

Bullshit. Words taken out of context, especially after being clarified, says more about you than me.

And that inflation is just as much out of Tumpy's outrageous spending as it is out of anyone. This inflation is largely spawned by printed debt... And your Republicans are just as guilty in that. FACTS.

And I am QUITE happy to withhold support from Republicans. Damn straight I am.
And I will continue to preach it. Worthless, feckless, betraying Republicans.

Had they done any damn thing while they had power, this time would not be as hard.
Like 8T added to that inflationary debt - Republican hands did that.

You want me to stop bitching? Start acting like Conservatives.

Stop bitching? No. Stop whinging? Yes

[roamer_1]

Stop bitching? No. Stop whinging? Yes

Nope. I will call it on the carpet every_damn_single_time.

[Killer Clouds]

Nope. I will call it on the carpet every_damn_single_time.

So your whining like a little girl will continue huh Darren?

[catfish1957]

So your whining like a little girl will continue huh Darren?

You do realize that on a percentage increase basis, Bush II was the biggest offender of incrementally higher debt?

Both parties are highly complict in this disaster.

[roamer_1]

So your whining like a little girl will continue huh Darren?

Your ignorance would be hilarious if it weren't so destructive.

[roamer_1]

You do realize that on a percentage increase basis, Bush II was the biggest offender of incrementally higher debt?

Both parties are highly complict in this disaster.

ABSOLUTELY.

[Hoodat]

You do realize that on a percentage increase basis, Bush II was the biggest offender of incrementally higher debt?

A statistical anomaly that is not a fair reflection.  Let's say the national debt was $1 when Bush took office, and $5 trillion when he left.  That means the debt went up 50,000,000,000% when he was in office.  Let's say the next guy pushes it from $5 trillion to $15 trillion.  His percentage increase was only 200%, much lower than the last guy.  But he actually did a much worse job.

Bush also gets dinged for spending that occurred after he left office.  His final budget was $400B in the red.  But that only went through Feb 2009.  In Feb, the Dems passed the second part of the budget which pushed that number closer to $1.6 trillion.  And the MSM to this day attributes that to Bush even though it was Baraq Obama that signed it.

In 2006, we were heading in the right direction.  The deficit was around $160B.  And the GOP had the opportunity to privatize part of Social Security.  But they blew it.  Then 2007 happened, and the rest is history.

Both parties are highly complicit in this disaster.

100%.  Sadly, the Dems are able to do far more when the GOP controls part of Congress than when the Dems have hefty majorities in both houses.

[Kamaji]

A statistical anomaly that is not a fair reflection.  Let's say the national debt was $1 when Bush took office, and $5 trillion when he left.  That means the debt went up 50,000,000,000% when he was in office.  Let's say the next guy pushes it from $5 trillion to $15 trillion.  His percentage increase was only 200%, much lower than the last guy.  But he actually did a much worse job.

Bush also gets dinged for spending that occurred after he left office.  His final budget was $400B in the red.  But that only went through Feb 2009.  In Feb, the Dems passed the second part of the budget which pushed that number closer to $1.6 trillion.  And the MSM to this day attributes that to Bush even though it was Baraq Obama that signed it.

In 2006, we were heading in the right direction.  The deficit was around $160B.  And the GOP had the opportunity to privatize part of Social Security.  But they blew it.  Then 2007 happened, and the rest is history.


100%.  Sadly, the Dems are able to do far more when the GOP controls part of Congress than when the Dems have hefty majorities in both houses.

[christian]

roamer1; ...Words taken out of context.

christian:
I copied your posting exactly as i figured even then you would try and weazel your way out of what you openly said.

roamer1
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NOPE. Not interested in big-government Republicans. I would rather it was the Democrats spending us into annihilation, and leave the damn Republicans in the corner with the Dunce cap on. At least that way there's some faint hope that the people will get fed up enough to actually DO, and maybe the Republicans will have a come-to-
 Jesus moment and actually rise to defend for a change.

There is no mulligan in Tumpy and MurderTurtle - That's as sure a miss, and the folks trust em for some dumbass reason. So down the hole we'd go sommore and everybody all unawares. At least now folks are paying a little attention.

I am paying attention, weaseling isn't going to get you anywhere.  I copy what you say when you screw up big time.

[Killer Clouds]

Your ignorance would be hilarious if it weren't so destructive.

And your whining is still annoying as always.

[catfish1957]

A statistical anomaly that is not a fair reflection.  Let's say the national debt was $1 when Bush took office, and $5 trillion when he left.  That means the debt went up 50,000,000,000% when he was in office.  Let's say the next guy pushes it from $5 trillion to $15 trillion.  His percentage increase was only 200%, much lower than the last guy.  But he actually did a much worse job.

Respectfully disagree.  Money is relative, and is on a continual reset benchmarked baseline based on normal inflationary pressures. That is why economist are rightfully hell bent on percentage comparisons on an annual basis to gauge economic indicators.   Your example of taking it from $1 to $5T IMO would be especailly heinous, and would give impression of taking a balance budget and turning it into shambles of free spending orgy. But from a math perspective, I can see your point.  But it doesn't reflect what actually took place.

Bush also gets dinged for spending that occurred after he left office.  His final budget was $400B in the red.  But that only went through Feb 2009.  In Feb, the Dems passed the second part of the budget which pushed that number closer to $1.6 trillion.  And the MSM to this day attributes that to Bush even though it was Baraq Obama that signed it.

Bush made it fashionable for the GOP to be tax and spend critters as bad as their socialist democratic counterparts.  Under his tenure he spent the treasury dry on his WOT folly, and oversaw the fraudlent banking run up that famously gave us the late '00's term "Too Big to Fail".  As much as I despise Obama, all the QE foolishness was mostly  a product of lagging financial indicators of W's mismanagement.  Obama just took an awful situation, and perpetuated it.   

In 2006, we were heading in the right direction.  The deficit was around $160B.  And the GOP had the opportunity to privatize part of Social Security.  But they blew it.  Then 2007 happened, and the rest is history.

That was smoke and mirrors, and a artifical run up to the '08 crash. Kind of like today, but 10X now.


100%.  Sadly, the Dems are able to do far more when the GOP controls part of Congress than when the Dems have hefty majorities in both houses.

Yep, and why I try to drive the point home that both parties are complicit.  Back when I was younger, I'd say that 60-70% of GOP law makers were fiscal hawks. Hell, we even had dem fiscal hawks like Scoop Jackson and Russell Long.   Try to even find one now.  That is why my doom and gloom prognostications have merit.  No one in this government cares that they are taking our economy off a cliff.

[Bigun]

@DB @catfish1957

It all leads back to this IMHO.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNAvsrY9vR4