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Ron DeSantis proposes plan to combat rising sea levels
« on: December 09, 2021, 01:03:31 am »
So, will he be seen as a believer in climate change?? Building sea walls?  I don't care how high or strong the seawalls are, they aren't going to stop the destruction of a Cat 4 or Cat 5 hurricane!

Ron DeSantis proposes plan to combat rising sea levels

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis announced a three-year initiative to combat rising sea levels in the state.

The $270 million initiative would fund 76 major projects designed to improve drainage and raise sea walls across the state, DeSantis said on Tuesday near Tampa.

"We're a low-lying state, we're a storm-prone state, and we're a flood-prone state," he said . "All the projects included in this plan will enhance efforts to protect our communities' coastlines and shores."

DESANTIS PROPOSES CIVILIAN EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM IN FLORIDA SIMILAR TO NATIONAL GUARD

DeSantis said the plan, which will help the state be more proactive, will likely carry a lower price tag than projected, clocking in at closer to $500 million in total funding because it requires a local match for most of the projects.

The move follows a bill passed during the previous legislative session to establish immediate and multi-year initiatives to combat flooding and rising sea level challenges.

DeSantis, who touted Florida as a haven from left-wing policies, emphasized he was staying away from "left-wing things" when combating rising sea levels.

"What I've found is when people start talking about things like global warming, they typically use that as a pretext to do a bunch of left-wing things that they would want to do anyways," he said. "And so, we're not doing any left-wing stuff." ............

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/ron-desantis-proposes-plan-to-combat-rising-sea-levels
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Re: Ron DeSantis proposes plan to combat rising sea levels
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2021, 01:45:11 am »
Sea-Level Rise in Florida—the Facts and Science

UF Florida Sea Grant College Program By: Thomas Ruppert, Esq., Coastal Planning Specialist, Florida Sea Grant1

After the last ice age ended approximately 20,000
years ago, sea level rose rapidly,2 but for the last few
thousand years has been rising very slowly3 and has
been almost stable for the last 4-5 thousand years.4
Importantly, this recent era of stability encompasses
the history of human civilization, meaning significant
global sea-level rise is truly unprecedented in human
history.

How Has Sea-Level Changed During the Last
Century?
 
While sea level was first recorded on tide gauges in
some sites in Europe as early as the 17th century,5
the most reliable tide gauge data used for measuring
recent SLR in Florida only goes back a little more
than 100 years.6 In Florida, sea level has increased by
about 8 inches over this time, or about an average of
2 mm/yr.  More recent data, based on satellite
altimetry, indicates that the average rate of rise in
this region since the early 1990s is about 3.0 mm/yr.

What causes sea levels to rise and fall? 

The two main factors affecting global sea levels are
the temperature of the oceans and the amount of
water in the ocean. At the local level, sea level may
change due to the rising or falling of coastal land.
This short summary does not address myriad other
factors with smaller impacts on global or local sea
levels.7

More: https://www.flseagrant.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/SLR-Fact-Sheet_dual-column-letterhead_8.2.13_pdf.pdf

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Re: Ron DeSantis proposes plan to combat rising sea levels
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2021, 02:02:55 am »
Good information @Elderberry  thank you
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Re: Ron DeSantis proposes plan to combat rising sea levels
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2021, 02:16:17 am »
Good information @Elderberry  thank you

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I hope you're not too impacted by that 2 to 3 mm/yr sea level rise.

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Re: Ron DeSantis proposes plan to combat rising sea levels
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2021, 02:19:08 am »
My house is around 40 ft above sea level, so I should be OK.

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Re: Ron DeSantis proposes plan to combat rising sea levels
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2021, 02:22:17 am »
@libertybele

I hope you're not too impacted by that 2 to 3 mm/yr sea level rise.

As if they can DETECT a 2 to 3mm/yr sea level rise...  *****rollingeyes*****

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Re: Ron DeSantis proposes plan to combat rising sea levels
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2021, 02:29:14 am »
As if they can DETECT a 2 to 3mm/yr sea level rise...  *****rollingeyes*****

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Re: Ron DeSantis proposes plan to combat rising sea levels
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2021, 02:33:29 am »
I wonder how much of that Unmeasurable 2 to 3 mm/yr increase is due to the sediments that flow down all the rivers into the oceans.

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Re: Ron DeSantis proposes plan to combat rising sea levels
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2021, 03:34:35 am »
I wonder how much of that Unmeasurable 2 to 3 mm/yr increase is due to the sediments that flow down all the rivers into the oceans.

2-3mm/yr equates to one foot every 100-150 years.
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Re: Ron DeSantis proposes plan to combat rising sea levels
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2021, 04:45:11 am »
I wonder how much of that Unmeasurable 2 to 3 mm/yr increase is due to the sediments that flow down all the rivers into the oceans.

or subsidence in the land... or wherever else their immovable perfectly incremented stakes are driven...

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Re: Ron DeSantis proposes plan to combat rising sea levels
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2021, 06:15:12 am »
Red Flag...

DeSantis lost 5 points in my eyes tonight by even acknowledging Climate Change

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Re: Ron DeSantis proposes plan to combat rising sea levels
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2021, 12:18:48 pm »
Red Flag...

DeSantis lost 5 points in my eyes tonight by even acknowledging Climate Change




Why?  Did he acknowledge it as anthropogenic or simply as the fact that the climate changes?

The fact is (a) the climate does change - it has done ever since the Earth first developed a climate - and (b) the Earth is still, on a geologic scale, cooler than it has been on average, so a simple regression to the mean suggests that it "should" be warming up.

And doing things like fortifying seawalls and putting in better protections against flooding is simply a good idea.  The cost of those improvements is likely to be less, even on on a present value risk-weighted basis, than the cost of one or two Storm-of-the-Century hurricanes, and it is only a question of when, not of if, Florida will get hit with a big one.

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Re: Ron DeSantis proposes plan to combat rising sea levels
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2021, 12:50:05 pm »
Red Flag...

DeSantis lost 5 points in my eyes tonight by even acknowledging Climate Change

DeSantis did not acknowledge climate change.

"We're a low-lying state, we're a storm-prone state, and we're a flood-prone state," he said . "All the projects included in this plan will enhance efforts to protect our communities' coastlines and shores."
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Re: Ron DeSantis proposes plan to combat rising sea levels
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2021, 01:27:43 pm »

Why?  Did he acknowledge it as anthropogenic or simply as the fact that the climate changes?

That's half the problem.  He did neither. He just legitimized the false narrative.

The fact is (a) the climate does change - it has done ever since the Earth first developed a climate - and (b) the Earth is still, on a geologic scale, cooler than it has been on average, so a simple regression to the mean suggests that it "should" be warming up.

I was in the environmental profession for 40 years, so I know a tad about this subject.  No need to preach to me.

And doing things like fortifying seawalls and putting in better protections against flooding is simply a good idea.  The cost of those improvements is likely to be less, even on on a present value risk-weighted basis, than the cost of one or two Storm-of-the-Century hurricanes, and it is only a question of when, not of if, Florida will get hit with a big one.

Good sense engineering and planning trumps fear mongering ranting every time.  Just do it, and not give ammo to the envirowhacko agenda and alarmist.
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Re: Ron DeSantis proposes plan to combat rising sea levels
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2021, 07:11:38 pm »
I thought the issue in Florida wasn't sea level rise but land subsidence due to depleted water table.