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Non-Citizens Who Want to Vote Should Become Citizens First
« on: November 27, 2021, 01:34:31 am »

Non-Citizens Who Want to Vote Should Become Citizens First


Democrats on the New York City Council, last seen expelling Thomas Jefferson from their chamber, have decided to attack another venerable pillar of American democracy: citizenship. A veto-proof majority of the Council, backed by incoming mayor Eric Adams, plans to allow over 800,000 green-card holders and non-citizen residents with work permits to vote in municipal elections. This is not a small number of additional voters: no candidate for Mayor of New York has received 800,000 votes since Rudy Giuliani in 1993.

The immediate objection to the plan, which prompted even Bill de Blasio to veto it previously, is that it violates the state constitution, which provides that “Every citizen shall be entitled to vote at every election for all officers elected by the people . . . provided that such citizen is eighteen years of age or over and shall have been a resident of this state, and of the county, city, or village for thirty days next preceding an election,” and that “laws shall be made for ascertaining, by proper proofs, the citizens who shall be entitled to the right of suffrage hereby established.” It further requires the secret ballot for “elections by the citizens.”

No state permits non-citizens to vote. Ballot initiatives in Alabama, Colorado, and Florida explicitly limited the vote to citizens by overwhelming popular majorities in 2020, joining Arizona and North Dakota. The constitutions of many other states are written, like New York’s, with the assumption that voting rights derive from citizenship.

Each of the guarantees of voting rights in the national Constitution — in the 14th, 15th, 19th, 24th, and 26th Amendments — is explicitly limited to “citizens of the United States.” Since 1996, federal law has made it a felony for non-citizens to vote in federal elections, although federal law allows states to make their own choices..................

https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/11/non-citizens-who-want-to-vote-should-become-citizens-first/
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Re: Non-Citizens Who Want to Vote Should Become Citizens First
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2021, 01:43:55 am »
Noncitizens Are Slowly Gaining Voting Rights

https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2021/07/01/noncitizens-are-slowly-gaining-voting-rights

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Two Vermont cities have joined the short but growing list of jurisdictions that allow residents who are not U.S. citizens to vote in local elections.

Last week, the Vermont legislature overrode vetoes by Republican Gov. Phil Scott, greenlighting voter-approved changes to the city charters of Montpelier and Winooski. Those cities now allow all residents over age 18 to vote in city elections, regardless of citizenship status. Noncitizen voting in federal elections remains illegal nationwide.

The movement to let all adults vote in local elections hasn’t had widespread success in modern times. Until lately, just San Francisco and nine Maryland cities have allowed noncitizens to vote in local or school board elections. While two towns in Massachusetts have passed resolutions in recent years calling for noncitizens to be allowed to vote locally, the state legislature has yet to approve those changes. But those cities may soon have company.

Legal voting by noncitizens is not new in the United States, however.

From the founding of the country until 1926, 40 states at various points allowed noncitizens to vote in local, state and federal elections, said Ron Hayduk, a professor of political science at San Francisco State University, who has written about this issue. Noncitizens could not only vote, but also hold office.

But that right has been stripped at different points in American history. From the days of the Alien and Sedition Acts of 1798 to the rise of nativism after World War I, anti-immigrant sentiment led to the rolling back of these voting rights by legislatures in most states, he said.

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Re: Non-Citizens Who Want to Vote Should Become Citizens First
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2021, 02:11:42 am »
Noncitizens Are Slowly Gaining Voting Rights

https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2021/07/01/noncitizens-are-slowly-gaining-voting-rights


Several constitutional amendments deal with voting rights and refer to citizens; amendments 14, 15, 19, 24, & 26
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Re: Non-Citizens Who Want to Vote Should Become Citizens First
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2021, 10:15:56 pm »
The Principle of Sovereign Right, articulated some 400 years past, defines the rights of governance
for the citizens of the Nation/State. Non-citizens have no such rights!!!!

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Re: Non-Citizens Who Want to Vote Should Become Citizens First
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2021, 10:31:51 pm »
Another little bit of common sense desperately attempting to re assert itself. I guess nothing is self evident these days, except the 16 identifiable genders.

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Re: Non-Citizens Who Want to Vote Should Become Citizens First
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2021, 01:27:06 pm »
Another little bit of common sense desperately attempting to re assert itself. I guess nothing is self evident these days, except the 16 identifiable genders.


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Re: Non-Citizens Who Want to Vote Should Become Citizens First
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2021, 10:18:09 pm »
skeeter wrote:
"Another little bit of common sense desperately attempting to re assert itself. I guess nothing is self evident these days, except the 16 identifiable genders."

In a more sane America -- such as the one run by traditional-minded whites from its inception to around 1990 or so -- an article like this would not have been published due to the absurdity of "non-citizen voting".

But... here we are.

How do we "get back, get back, get back to where we once belonged...???"

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Re: Non-Citizens Who Want to Vote Should Become Citizens First
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2021, 04:18:38 am »

Why would anyone want to be a citizen of a country that does not respect its own laws?

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