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Re: Trump attacks Meghan McCain and her family
« Reply #50 on: October 27, 2021, 02:01:30 am »
@EdinVA

RINO's are living in fear of actual conservatives taking control,and well,governing like conservatives.

I guess it could be said in the defense of most of them that they are not old enough to have any memories of what actual conservatives govern like,so all they really know is what the left says about them.

Hell,none of us would vote for actual conservatives either,if all we knew about them was what the Dims and the media told us.
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The thing about all of this is we are expecting perfect human beings, and they simply don't exist, and then once we vote them into office, we crucify them because they are not like what we wanted.
We seize every word, every over priced pair of shoes or expensive gown and simply set out to destroy folks.  I am not talking about the corruption side all this, which is a huge part of the issue.

Maybe it is not them that is wrong but our expectations.

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Re: Trump attacks Meghan McCain and her family
« Reply #51 on: October 27, 2021, 02:07:07 am »
Criticize the harshness if you will, but he is right on all points.
Trump is disliked because the socialists told people to hate him because he wants to take away their free stuff.
But who cares?

Trump does not need to chime in on Meghan McCain. No one cares about Meghan McCain. But he again had to lie about how he did something great for John in "allowing" him to have a funeral. Trump had nothing to do with McCain's funeral and is taking credit for it, for no reason other than he is a sociopath.

Trump does not need to insult a dead man's valor who is not even in the conversation. But he did, for no other reason other than he is a sociopath.

Trump still advertises himself as "President of the United States of America" for no other reason other than he is a sociopath.

Yet he is still frontrunner for the 2024 Republican nomination. Have we as a nation not learned from our mistakes?
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Re: Trump attacks Meghan McCain and her family
« Reply #52 on: October 27, 2021, 02:41:59 am »
But who cares?

Trump does not need to chime in on Meghan McCain. No one cares about Meghan McCain. But he again had to lie about how he did something great for John in "allowing" him to have a funeral. Trump had nothing to do with McCain's funeral and is taking credit for it, for no reason other than he is a sociopath.

Trump does not need to insult a dead man's valor who is not even in the conversation. But he did, for no other reason other than he is a sociopath.

Trump still advertises himself as "President of the United States of America" for no other reason other than he is a sociopath.
Yet he is still frontrunner for the 2024 Republican nomination. Have we as a nation not learned from our mistakes?


@jmyrlefuller past presidents are often referred to as president or former presidents, i.e., W. Bush made an official statement/ press release recently on Powell's death from "President George W. Bush".  So, I'm not so sure other than your dislike of Trump why your 'e throwing needless darts.

Also, Trump did personally authorize the use of Air Force 2 to fly McCain’s body from Arizona to Washington, DC (where the funeral was held).   

Obviously those who voted for Joe have not learned a darn thing.

As for Trump being a sociopath; well....you use the term rather loosely, and I see that statement as a bit over the top and I'll refrain from further comment.

   BTW  -- It may be a good idea to focus on the front windshield and not the review mirror.

https://www.bushcenter.org/about-the-center/newsroom/press-releases/2021/10/statement-by-president-george-w-bush-on-colin-powell.html

https://people.com/politics/president-george-w-bush-remembers-colin-powell-great-public-servant/
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Re: Trump attacks Meghan McCain and her family
« Reply #53 on: October 27, 2021, 03:02:43 am »
@sneakypete
The thing about all of this is we are expecting perfect human beings, and they simply don't exist, and then once we vote them into office, we crucify them because they are not like what we wanted.
We seize every word, every over priced pair of shoes or expensive gown and simply set out to destroy folks.  I am not talking about the corruption side all this, which is a huge part of the issue.

Maybe it is not them that is wrong but our expectations.

@mystery-ak

I agree that we expect them to be perfect human beings in every respect,and then when we find out they are nothing more than normal human beings,with some of the same flaws we have,we want to tear them apart,when what we SHOULD be doing is giving them assistance and explaining to them WHY we are objecting to something they said or did.

NOBODY is perfect,not even thee or me.

We need to accept the FACT that the people we vote for are not perfect. We just need to focus on voting for the ones with the fewest flaws,and absolutely reject ANY candidate that is a globalist no matter how well-meaning or sincere he or she may be.

The only absolute is right is right and wrong is wrong. It is up to us,the voters to determine how close to the ideal the people we vote for are when it comes to the important issues that keep America,America. We can and SHOULD overlook many flaws,but that one is absolute. A candidate is either pro-American independence,or they should be rejected.

And "Pro-American independence" mean they MUST support the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights. No compromise is possible when it comes to those two. LOTS of stuff can be negotiated,but our freedoms are not on that list.
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Re: Trump attacks Meghan McCain and her family
« Reply #54 on: October 27, 2021, 03:04:36 am »
Trump had nothing to do with McCain's funeral and is taking credit for it, for no reason other than he is a sociopath.

President Trump did @jmyrlefuller   .... The President approved a state funeral, with all the trimmings, reserved for heads of state for McCain, a  US Senator. 

Trump does not need to insult a dead man's valor who is not even in the conversation. But he did, for no other reason other than he is a sociopath.

This is your opinion....and you're entitled to it.  But if you're defending McCain's valor, you are in need of some serious educating.

Trump still advertises himself as "President of the United States of America" for no other reason other than he is a sociopath.

No, he does not.  Trump's letterhead includes "Donald J. Trump, 45th Prsident of the United States" --- which he is for the rest of human history.  Trump also retains the titles "Mr. President" and "Sir" when being addressed ---- for the rest of his life.

 
Yet he is still frontrunner for the 2024 Republican nomination. Have we as a nation not learned from our mistakes?

Before you go on lecturing about mistakes, how about you learn the meaning and application of "sociopath"?



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« Reply #55 on: October 27, 2021, 03:13:01 am »
President Trump did @jmyrlefuller   .... The President approved a state funeral, with all the trimmings, reserved for heads of state for McCain, a  US Senator. 

This is your opinion....and you're entitled to it.  But if you're defending McCain's valor, you are in need of some serious educating.

No, he does not.  Trump's letterhead includes "Donald J. Trump, 45th Prsident of the United States" --- which he is for the rest of human history.  Trump also retains the titles "Mr. President" and "Sir" when being addressed ---- for the rest of his life.

 
Before you go on lecturing about mistakes, how about you learn the meaning and application of "sociopath"?

@jmyrlefuller   @Right_in_Virginia

AMEN,Right_in_Virginia ,Amen.

And for jmyrlefuller's benefit,McLunatic was a traitor to his country after getting shot down by cooperating with the NVN and accepting special favors and living conditions because he was the son of an Admiral.

It was even reported that he made anti-war and anti-American speeches that were played on the radios in communist-block nations to inspire them to keep fighting.
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Re: Trump attacks Meghan McCain and her family
« Reply #56 on: October 27, 2021, 03:14:33 am »
President Trump did @jmyrlefuller   .... The President approved a state funeral, with all the trimmings, reserved for heads of state for McCain, a  US Senator. 

This is your opinion....and you're entitled to it.  But if you're defending McCain's valor, you are in need of some serious educating.

No, he does not.  Trump's letterhead includes "Donald J. Trump, 45th Prsident of the United States" --- which he is for the rest of human history.  Trump also retains the titles "Mr. President" and "Sir" when being addressed ---- for the rest of his life.

 
Before you go on lecturing about mistakes, how about you learn the meaning and application of "sociopath"?


Thank you.  Everything said by Jimmy is WRONG!   POTUS TRUMP did not need to grant traitor, rino, McCain a grand funeral. Men who served with McCain and those 100 + McCain killed with his fooling around aren't  happy with SONGBIRD .  His grand father and father were BOTH admirals and got his butt out of trouble, many times

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« Reply #57 on: October 27, 2021, 03:40:34 am »
But who cares?

Trump does not need to chime in on Meghan McCain. No one cares about Meghan McCain. But he again had to lie about how he did something great for John in "allowing" him to have a funeral. Trump had nothing to do with McCain's funeral and is taking credit for it, for no reason other than he is a sociopath.

Trump does not need to insult a dead man's valor who is not even in the conversation. But he did, for no other reason other than he is a sociopath.

Trump still advertises himself as "President of the United States of America" for no other reason other than he is a sociopath.

Yet he is still frontrunner for the 2024 Republican nomination. Have we as a nation not learned from our mistakes?

@jmyrlefuller

I can't say  Trump is a sociopath. But I agree with everything else you posted. That's why he lost 2020

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Re: Trump attacks Meghan McCain and her family
« Reply #58 on: October 27, 2021, 10:07:52 am »
@jmyrlefuller

I can't say  Trump is a sociopath. But I agree with everything else you posted. That's why he lost 2020

@LMAO

All you whiners should change your screen names to "Miss Manners 1,Miss Manner ,etc,etc,etc and vote for Biden's re-election and be done with it.

BTW,he "lost" in 2020 due to vote rigging,but you know that and just don't care.
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Re: Trump attacks Meghan McCain and her family
« Reply #59 on: October 27, 2021, 12:21:33 pm »
And if you don't think there is anything wrong with what he wrote... then you don't understand why Trump is so intensely disliked.

Do I need to break it down, paragraph by paragraph, sentence by sentence? Sane people do not use this kind of language. Sociopaths do.


Interesting that you have better information than Trump.

So. Would you vote for Biden again or leave that to Dominion?

There is no need for the kind of anger you are displaying.
If you feel so, break down your last sentence starting with "Do I...


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« Reply #60 on: October 27, 2021, 01:34:06 pm »
@LMAO

All you whiners should change your screen names to "Miss Manners 1,Miss Manner ,etc,etc,etc and vote for Biden's re-election and be done with it.

BTW,he "lost" in 2020 due to vote rigging,but you know that and just don't care.

And this is the typical pattern. Post an honest assessment regarding Donald Trump and why he turned so many people off and his loyalists  make you the issue. And the charges are predictable. “You’re a Never Trumper.” Or “why don’t you just vote for the Democrats or Joe Biden or (insert Democrat candidate here).”

They have so convinced themselves that Donald Trump was universally loved  that they remain blind to the fact that Donald Trump was a very unpopular president. After all, if I love some thing that means everybody else does, right?

Were there shenanigans in the 2020 election that need to be looked at and do we need some reforms to make sure these are fixed? Sure. The mail in ballot mess is one example.

But,without definite proof that it made a difference, I accept Joe Biden as the duly elected president. Of course, my mind can be changed on that. But I need something more than just the rantings of his supporters who are experiencing an emotional loss









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Re: Trump attacks Meghan McCain and her family
« Reply #61 on: October 27, 2021, 01:59:32 pm »
And this is the typical pattern. Post an honest assessment regarding Donald Trump and why he turned so many people off and his loyalists  make you the issue. And the charges are predictable. “You’re a Never Trumper.” Or “why don’t you just vote for the Democrats or Joe Biden or (insert Democrat candidate here).”

They have so convinced themselves that Donald Trump was universally loved  that they remain blind to the fact that Donald Trump was a very unpopular president. After all, if I love some thing that means everybody else does, right?

Were there shenanigans in the 2020 election that need to be looked at and do we need some reforms to make sure these are fixed? Sure. The mail in ballot mess is one example.

But,without definite proof that it made a difference, I accept Joe Biden as the duly elected president. Of course, my mind can be changed on that. But I need something more than just the rantings of his supporters who are experiencing an emotional loss

I never cared that he was liked, I voted for a bulldozer to wreak havoc on the deep state and am willing to take the fall out.
People understand more about the deep state and the damage being done each and everyday because of Trump, and for that I am grateful and am perpetually suspicious of those that continue to demean him.  Who are they protecting and why?

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« Reply #62 on: October 27, 2021, 02:23:58 pm »
I never cared that he was liked, I voted for a bulldozer to wreak havoc on the deep state and am willing to take the fall out.
People understand more about the deep state and the damage being done each and everyday because of Trump, and for that I am grateful and am perpetually suspicious of those that continue to demean him.  Who are they protecting and why?

A fair post

Although I disagree with you that more  people are understanding the deep state and the damage it’s doing because of Donald Trump. I think it’s Joe Biden and his administration that’s doing it.
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« Reply #63 on: October 27, 2021, 02:28:47 pm »
And this is the typical pattern. Post an honest assessment regarding Donald Trump and why he turned so many people off and his loyalists  make you the issue. And the charges are predictable. “You’re a Never Trumper.” Or “why don’t you just vote for the Democrats or Joe Biden or (insert Democrat candidate here).”

They have so convinced themselves that Donald Trump was universally loved  that they remain blind to the fact that Donald Trump was a very unpopular president. After all, if I love some thing that means everybody else does, right?

Were there shenanigans in the 2020 election that need to be looked at and do we need some reforms to make sure these are fixed? Sure. The mail in ballot mess is one example.

But,without definite proof that it made a difference, I accept Joe Biden as the duly elected president. Of course, my mind can be changed on that. But I need something more than just the rantings of his supporters who are experiencing an emotional loss

@LMAO

You are as clueless and a school girl on prom night. It ain't about love,dummy,it's about the direction the country has moved in,and how to get us set back on the road to a free America again.

Get someone you know and trust to explain that to you.

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« Reply #64 on: October 27, 2021, 02:31:53 pm »
A fair post

Although I disagree with you that more  people are understanding the deep state and the damage it’s doing because of Donald Trump. I think it’s Joe Biden and his administration that’s doing it.

Its pretty obvious it was Trump that set everyone off and opened a lot of eyes as a consequence. As the NT'ers love to tell us without Trump there would be no Pres Biden.

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« Reply #65 on: October 27, 2021, 02:37:41 pm »
@LMAO

You are as clueless and a school girl on prom night. It ain't about love,dummy,it's about the direction the country has moved in,and how to get us set back on the road to a free America again.

Get someone you know and trust to explain that to you.

You do understand that you have to get that person that will “get us set back on the road for a free America again” elected, correct? Get someone you know and trust to explain that to you.

 I think you would be very hard pressed to find anybody who thinks the country is heading in the right direction under Biden outside of network news rooms

Trump got lucky in 2016. Both he and Hillary Clinton were horribly disliked by the electorate. Trump won because he was at least the outsider. So instead of building on that and trying to improve how  the general public viewed  him, he decided to spend the last four years entertaining his base.
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« Reply #66 on: October 27, 2021, 02:45:54 pm »
But who cares?

Trump does not need to chime in on Meghan McCain. No one cares about Meghan McCain. But he again had to lie about how he did something great for John in "allowing" him to have a funeral. Trump had nothing to do with McCain's funeral and is taking credit for it, for no reason other than he is a sociopath.

Trump does not need to insult a dead man's valor who is not even in the conversation. But he did, for no other reason other than he is a sociopath.

Trump still advertises himself as "President of the United States of America" for no other reason other than he is a sociopath.

Yet he is still frontrunner for the 2024 Republican nomination. Have we as a nation not learned from our mistakes?
Yes, Trump is a sociopath. That cannot be repeated enough. He is an ultra-narcissistic  sociopath who frequently urinates on others but cannot stand it when others return the favor. "I called you a childish name...how dare you call me a name in return."
But he "owns" the libs, so that makes everything he does perfectly alright....at least according to his idolaters who have not given up on him even after one year of his lying about losing the last election and other shenanigans.

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« Reply #67 on: October 27, 2021, 02:46:03 pm »

Trump got lucky in 2016. Both he and Hillary Clinton were horribly disliked by the electorate. Trump won because he was at least the outsider. So instead of building on that and trying to improve how  the general public viewed  him, he decided to spend the last four years entertaining his base.
I don't get this at all. NO ONE disputes that Trump received more votes than any other previous republican, millions more than he received in 2016, and that the election was decided by a few tens of thousands of votes in a few key states, and that the rats committed widespread voter fraud.

So how does that square with your assertion?

I really hate to keep going over this but this narrative needs to be challenged each and every time it is heard.
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« Reply #68 on: October 27, 2021, 02:51:42 pm »
Its pretty obvious it was Trump that set everyone off and opened a lot of eyes as a consequence. As the NT'ers love to tell us without Trump there would be no Pres Biden.

I think it’s the Biden Administration and everything that’s going on now that is opening up more people’s eyes. I cannot think of anything more sinister  to use the power of the FBI and the attorney general to go after parents who are voicing their displeasure at local school boards.

It backfired and now they’re backpedaling but that was their first instinct
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« Reply #69 on: October 27, 2021, 02:53:07 pm »
@jmyrlefuller

I can't say  Trump is a sociopath. But I agree with everything else you posted. That's why he lost 2020
Strictly as a candidate Trump is incapable of learning from his mistakes. If he had accepted (legitimately) losing the last election and promised to do better....and stayed true to the promise....he might have had a decent shot at getting elected again in 2024. That's all down the drain as he's lost millions of possible voters with his post-November shenanigans. But he can't resist being himself and is unfortunately encouraged to act out by his faithful followers.
If he gets the nomination (which looks likely), the Dems will use Jan 6 and his pathetic lying as clubs to pound him. Biden very possibly won't be the Dem nominee if his numbers continue to tank. But as Biden handily won last November by mostly staying in his basement, a number of other generic Dems not named Bernie Sanders stand a decent chance of getting the nomination. They'll pound Trump in the election again.
Let's ditch Trump now and get a decent candidate for 2024. Trump is toxic.

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« Reply #70 on: October 27, 2021, 02:58:22 pm »
@LMAO

All you whiners should change your screen names to "Miss Manners 1,Miss Manner ,etc,etc,etc and vote for Biden's re-election and be done with it.

BTW,he "lost" in 2020 due to vote rigging,but you know that and just don't care.
There was no vote rigging. You cannot continue to accept Trump's lying. He lost...fairly, squarely, and bigly.
Biden is the worst president in American history, but that's beside the point. He legitimately won last November.

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« Reply #71 on: October 27, 2021, 03:01:54 pm »
And this is the typical pattern. Post an honest assessment regarding Donald Trump and why he turned so many people off and his loyalists  make you the issue. And the charges are predictable. “You’re a Never Trumper.” Or “why don’t you just vote for the Democrats or Joe Biden or (insert Democrat candidate here).”

They have so convinced themselves that Donald Trump was universally loved  that they remain blind to the fact that Donald Trump was a very unpopular president. After all, if I love some thing that means everybody else does, right?

Were there shenanigans in the 2020 election that need to be looked at and do we need some reforms to make sure these are fixed? Sure. The mail in ballot mess is one example.

But,without definite proof that it made a difference, I accept Joe Biden as the duly elected president. Of course, my mind can be changed on that. But I need something more than just the rantings of his supporters who are experiencing an emotional loss
Welcome to reality. Many presently anti-Trump people, like me, voted for him. I did twice, 2016 and 2020. But he legitimately lost last November. There was no rigging, no massive cheating. He just lost. The Trump faithful have to accept that.
The Dems are ripe for defeating next year and 2024. We cannot let Trump screw that up.

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« Reply #72 on: October 27, 2021, 03:03:33 pm »
Its pretty obvious it was Trump that set everyone off and opened a lot of eyes as a consequence. As the NT'ers love to tell us without Trump there would be no Pres Biden.
Trump got us Biden. Accept it. And I'll repeat, I voted for Trump twice. Never again.

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« Reply #73 on: October 27, 2021, 03:06:02 pm »
Strictly as a candidate Trump is incapable of learning from his mistakes. If he had accepted (legitimately) losing the last election and promised to do better....and stayed true to the promise....he might have had a decent shot at getting elected again in 2024. That's all down the drain as he's lost millions of possible voters with his post-November shenanigans. But he can't resist being himself and is unfortunately encouraged to act out by his faithful followers.
If he gets the nomination (which looks likely), the Dems will use Jan 6 and his pathetic lying as clubs to pound him. Biden very possibly won't be the Dem nominee if his numbers continue to tank. But as Biden handily won last November by mostly staying in his basement, a number of other generic Dems not named Bernie Sanders stand a decent chance of getting the nomination. They'll pound Trump in the election again.
Let's ditch Trump now and get a decent candidate for 2024. Trump is toxic.

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Agree with everything you said. Trump did make gains with certain groups in 2020 but he lost independent, moderate voters. Biden, with the help of the press and some Republicans, was able to portray himself as a middle of the road guy. It worked. But now people are seeing that’s not the case
Nominate Donald Trump in 2024 and Biden gets reelected even if inflation is a double digit and gas prices are seven dollars a gallon

I am not personally attacking Donald Trump and I’m not attacking his supporters. I think those people who showed up to his rallies and work the streets to get him reelected are people who love this country very much and do not want to see it descend into a socialist hell.  I voted for the guy in 2020 because I knew Joe Biden would be an unmitigated disaster. But we need to have an honest discussion about the problems Donald Trump had with the general public. Attacking Meghan McCain just further proves that he has not changed.
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Re: Trump attacks Meghan McCain and her family
« Reply #74 on: October 27, 2021, 03:07:33 pm »
I don't get this at all. NO ONE disputes that Trump received more votes than any other previous republican, millions more than he received in 2016, and that the election was decided by a few tens of thousands of votes in a few key states, and that the rats committed widespread voter fraud.

So how does that square with your assertion?

I really hate to keep going over this but this narrative needs to be challenged each and every time it is heard.
"the rats committed widespread voter fraud."

After almost one whole year of zero proof of massive fraud, don't you think it's time you gave up on that assertion? They just concluded an audit demanded by Trump forces in AZ last month. They found Biden had more votes. What would it take to convince you that Trump simply got outvoted and that he legitimately lost? Which is what happened.