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The More Israel Doubled Down on COVID, the Worse Things Got
« on: September 19, 2021, 02:51:25 am »
By Patricia Adams, Lawrence Solomon
September 18, 2021

The government’s response to the failure of its policies, in this, its fourth wave, is to blame the relatively few who remain unvaccinated and to double down on more vaccinations. Three shots are becoming mandatory to qualify for vaccine passports, and a fourth is on its way, in anticipation of future waves.
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Israel does have a COVID success story, which ironically occurred where its government most failed to implement its policies. Unlike most of the Israeli population, its ultra-Orthodox largely shunned lockdowns and vaccination early on, leading to a high rate of natural infection, followed by natural immunity and long-lived protection (pdf). The ultra-Orthodox represented 4 percent of Delta cases, according to Israeli Health Ministry data in August. Overall, Israelis with natural immunity represent 1 percent or less of Delta cases.

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Re: The More Israel Doubled Down on COVID, the Worse Things Got
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2021, 03:01:06 am »
That's because natural immunity, acquired through having been infected and survived is superior to that given by the vaccine.

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While both infection and vaccination induced robust innate and adaptive immune responses, our analysis revealed significant qualitative differences between the two types of immune challenges. In COVID-19 patients, immune responses were characterized by a highly augmented interferon response which was largely absent in vaccine recipients. Increased interferon signaling likely contributed to the observed dramatic upregulation of cytotoxic genes in the peripheral T cells and innate-like lymphocytes in patients but not in immunized subjects.

From Ivanova, Ellie and Devlin, Joseph and Buus, Terkild and Koide, Akiko and Cornelius, Amber and Samanovic, Marie and Herrera, Alberto and Zhang, Chenzhen and Desvignes, Ludovic and Odum, Niels and Ulrich, Robert and Mulligan, Mark J. and Koide, Shohei and Ruggles, Kelly V. and Herati, Ramin and Koralov, Sergei B., Discrete Immune Response Signature to SARS-CoV-2 mRNA Vaccination Versus Infection. Available at SSRN: https://ssrn.com/abstract=3838993 or http://dx.doi.org/10.2139/ssrn.3838993



That takes us back to early response with ionophores and zinc and macrolide antibiotics to provide treatment which, in the end, leads to broader spectrum resistance to the variants.
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Re: The More Israel Doubled Down on COVID, the Worse Things Got
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2021, 03:28:32 pm »
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Re: The More Israel Doubled Down on COVID, the Worse Things Got
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2021, 08:10:42 pm »
So much for vaccine-generated herd immunity
In an Israeli hospital outbreak, 96% vaccination rates (and universal masking) made no difference. And guess who had mild cases? Hint: not the vaccinated.   
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A reader tipped me to this fascinating paper in a peer-reviewed journal about a Covid outbreak in Israel that began in mid-July, just as vaccine failure was accelerating there.

A vaccinated dialysis patient was admitted to Meir Medical Center - a large Israeli hospital near Tel Aviv - with fever and cough. He remained on the dialysis unit for days, as his condition worsened. (One of many problems with overselling the vaccines is that it led to mistakes like this.)

By the time he was diagnosed with Covid-19, he had infected three fellow patients. He also had a PCR threshold of 13.6 - almost impossibly low, showing viral loads roughly 1 million times those in a lightly infected person. He was moved to a Covid-19 ward, where he eventually died (I say he, though the patient’s gender is not revealed; the paper refers to “they).

The paper, published in Eurosurveillance, a journal published by the European Centers for Disease Control, explains that the outbreak rapidly spread among both patients and staff of the hospital’s dialysis unit, the Covid-19 ward, and other wards. At the time, 238 out of 248 of exposed patients and staff had been fully vaccinated with Pfizer’s mRNA vaccine.

Again, the fact that 96 percent of the people in this population had been vaccinated - a level far above early estimates of the percentages required for herd immunity - apparently made no difference. ...

As the authors explained:  “This communication… challenges the assumption that high universal vaccination rates will lead to herd immunity and prevent COVID-19 outbreaks… In the outbreak described here, 96.2% of the exposed population was vaccinated. Infection advanced rapidly (many cases became symptomatic within 2 days of exposure), and viral load was high.”

SOURCE:  eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2021.26.39.2100822#html_fulltext
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Re: The More Israel Doubled Down on COVID, the Worse Things Got
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2021, 08:38:40 pm »
Thanks for the additional info.

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Re: The More Israel Doubled Down on COVID, the Worse Things Got
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2021, 08:58:36 pm »
That's because natural immunity, acquired through having been infected and survived is superior to that given by the vaccine.

From Ivanova, Ellie and Devlin, Joseph and Buus, Terkild and Koide, Akiko and Cornelius, Amber and Samanovic, Marie and Herrera, Alberto and Zhang, Chenzhen and Desvignes, Ludovic and Odum, Niels and Ulrich, Robert and Mulligan, Mark J. and Koide, Shohei and Ruggles, Kelly V. and Herati, Ramin and Koralov, Sergei B., Discrete Immune Response Signature to SARS-CoV-2 mRNA Vaccination Versus Infection. Available at SSRN: https://ssrn.com/abstract=3838993 or http://dx.doi.org/10.2139/ssrn.3838993



That takes us back to early response with ionophores and zinc and macrolide antibiotics to provide treatment which, in the end, leads to broader spectrum resistance to the variants.


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Re: The More Israel Doubled Down on COVID, the Worse Things Got
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2021, 09:13:24 pm »
So much for vaccine-generated herd immunity
In an Israeli hospital outbreak, 96% vaccination rates (and universal masking) made no difference. And guess who had mild cases? Hint: not the vaccinated.   
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Oct 3   https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/so-much-for-vaccine-generated-herd

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 “This communication… challenges the assumption that high universal vaccination rates will lead to herd immunity and prevent COVID-19 outbreaks… In the outbreak described here, 96.2% of the exposed population was vaccinated. Infection advanced rapidly (many cases became symptomatic within 2 days of exposure), and viral load was high.”
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Re: The More Israel Doubled Down on COVID, the Worse Things Got
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2021, 09:34:42 pm »
This is what happens when you give academics authority over policy instead of people with actual experience using common sense.

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Re: The More Israel Doubled Down on COVID, the Worse Things Got
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2021, 10:34:09 pm »
This is what happens when you give academics authority over policy instead of people with actual experience using common sense.

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Re: The More Israel Doubled Down on COVID, the Worse Things Got
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2021, 11:37:32 pm »
This is what happens when you give academics authority over policy instead of people with actual experience using common sense.
But theory works fine--in theory.
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