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Where the hell are our protests?

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Just received my notice that I'm to provide proof of vaccination or face the consequences.
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Just received my notice that I'm to provide proof of vaccination or face the consequences.

Make them fire you then sue the s&*t out of them!
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

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Make them fire you then sue the s&*t out of them!

That would mean suing the Federal government.  I'd be better off joining one of the class action suits being brought by Federal employees.
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That would mean suing the Federal government.  I'd be better off joining one of the class action suits being brought by Federal employees.

OK!
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

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Just received my notice that I'm to provide proof of vaccination or face the consequences.

@txradioguy

Tell them you will get the vaccine once they are able to prove to you that it is safe, and that they assume liability if something goes wrong.  Have them declare how much they intend to pay your family if you don't survive, or how much of your medical bills and disability they will cover if you are incapacitated.

Make them do all that first.  Put the ball in their court, not yours.  Make them pony up first.
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Just received my notice that I'm to provide proof of vaccination or face the consequences.
Best of luck, no matter your decision... Tough spot to get slammed into..

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Make them fire you then sue the s&*t out of them!

He first needs to give them the opportunity to accept liability.  If they refuse liability and then fire him, it makes any legal case many times better at success.  Put the burden where it belongs - on the employer.
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Tell them you will get the vaccine once they are able to prove to you that it is safe, and that they assume liability if something goes wrong.  Have them declare how much they intend to pay your family if you don't survive, or how much of your medical bills and disability they will cover if you are incapacitated.

Make them do all that first.  Put the ball in their court, not yours.  Make them pony up first.

Will do.  Thanks.
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Abstract 10712: Mrna COVID Vaccines Dramatically Increase Endothelial Inflammatory Markers and ACS Risk as Measured by the PULS Cardiac Test: a Warning

Steven R Gundry
Originally published 8 Nov 2021
Circulation. 2021;144:A10712

Abstract

Our group has been using the PLUS Cardiac Test (GD Biosciences, Inc, Irvine, CA) a clinically validated measurement of multiple protein biomarkers which generates a score predicting the 5 yr risk (percentage chance) of a new Acute Coronary Syndrome (ACS). The score is based on changes from the norm of multiple protein biomarkers including IL-16, a proinflammatory cytokine, soluble Fas, an inducer of apoptosis, and Hepatocyte Growth Factor (HGF)which serves as a marker for chemotaxis of T-cells into epithelium and cardiac tissue, among other markers. Elevation above the norm increases the PULS score, while decreases below the norm lowers the PULS score.The score has been measured every 3-6 months in our patient population for 8 years. Recently, with the advent of the mRNA COVID 19 vaccines (vac) by Moderna and Pfizer, dramatic changes in the PULS score became apparent in most patients.This report summarizes those results. A total of 566 pts, aged 28 to 97, M:F ratio 1:1 seen in a preventive cardiology practice had a new PULS test drawn from 2 to 10 weeks following the 2nd COVID shot and was compared to the previous PULS score drawn 3 to 5 months previously pre- shot. Baseline IL-16 increased from 35=/-20 above the norm to 82 =/- 75 above the norm post-vac; sFas increased from 22+/- 15 above the norm to 46=/-24 above the norm post-vac; HGF increased from 42+/-12 above the norm to 86+/-31 above the norm post-vac. These changes resulted in an increase of the PULS score from 11% 5 yr ACS risk to 25% 5 yr ACS risk. At the time of this report, these changes persist for at least 2.5 months post second dose of vac.We conclude that the mRNA vacs dramatically increase inflammation on the endothelium and T cell infiltration of cardiac muscle and may account for the observations of increased thrombosis, cardiomyopathy, and other vascular events following vaccination...

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Over 90 percent of federal workers vaccinated by deadline, White House says
By Peter Sullivan - 11/22/21 10:33 AM EST

More than 90 percent of the federal workforce has received at least one shot of a COVID-19 vaccine, the White House said Monday on the deadline for President Biden’s federal employee mandate.

Another roughly 5 percent are in compliance by having a valid exception or an extension request, a senior administration official said, bringing the total to 95 percent in compliance.

For the small percentage of employees who are not in compliance, which still translates to thousands of people out of more than 3.5 million federal workers, “agencies are beginning an education and counseling process, followed by additional enforcement steps over time if needed,” the official said.


The Biden administration hopes the high uptake among federal workers is an example for private sector employers, as part of a larger vaccine mandate push. The administration’s vaccination-or-testing requirement for businesses with 100 or more workers is scheduled to take effect Jan. 4, though it is currently paused by a federal appeals court.

“As the progress across the Federal government has shown, these requirements work — and we hope that our implementation can serve as an example for other businesses of every size to move forward with similar measures that will protect their workforce, protect their customers, and protect our communities,” the senior administration official said.

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Just received my notice that I'm to provide proof of vaccination or face the consequences.

I'm so sorry you're  being put in this position, @txradioguy
I hope you are able to find an answer that is acceptable to both you and your chain of command.
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Over 90 percent of federal workers vaccinated by deadline, White House says
By Peter Sullivan - 11/22/21 10:33 AM EST

More than 90 percent of the federal workforce has received at least one shot of a COVID-19 vaccine, the White House said Monday on the deadline for President Biden’s federal employee mandate.

Another roughly 5 percent are in compliance by having a valid exception or an extension request, a senior administration official said, bringing the total to 95 percent in compliance.

For the small percentage of employees who are not in compliance, which still translates to thousands of people out of more than 3.5 million federal workers, “agencies are beginning an education and counseling process, followed by additional enforcement steps over time if needed,” the official said.


The Biden administration hopes the high uptake among federal workers is an example for private sector employers, as part of a larger vaccine mandate push. The administration’s vaccination-or-testing requirement for businesses with 100 or more workers is scheduled to take effect Jan. 4, though it is currently paused by a federal appeals court.

“As the progress across the Federal government has shown, these requirements work — and we hope that our implementation can serve as an example for other businesses of every size to move forward with similar measures that will protect their workforce, protect their customers, and protect our communities,” the senior administration official said.

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https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/582612-over-90-percent-of-federal-workers-vaccinated-by-deadline
“As the progress across the Federal government has shown, these requirements work..."  yeah, when you basically put a needle to someone's head and say "Jab or job".  Aholes!  9999hair out0000
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Just received my notice that I'm to provide proof of vaccination or face the consequences.
@txradioguy  I'm sorry to hear that, but can relate.  I receive weekly notices from my co. that I'm currently "not in compliance" and must be by 4 Jan...the latest post from @mystery-ak only serves to reduce my confidence in that pedo in the WH backing off of the requirement...oh well, I have plenty of PTO to see if something changes in Jan or Feb of 22.
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@txradioguy  I'm sorry to hear that, but can relate.  I receive weekly notices from my co. that I'm currently "not in compliance" and must be by 4 Jan...the latest post from @mystery-ak only serves to reduce my confidence in that pedo in the WH backing off of the requirement...oh well, I have plenty of PTO to see if something changes in Jan or Feb of 22.

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Tell them you are willing to take the jab AFTER they prove to you it is safe, and put in writing the liability they assume if it is not.  Find out what death or disability payments they will be paying out first.

If they are not willing to share this information with you and still fire you, then they have no legal defense for wrongful termination since you stated up front you were willing to take the jab.
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.

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