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Yeah, what about those smallpox and polio vaccines?  I shouldn't have to get those either.

That's up to you.  It's your choice.  That's what Liberty is all about.
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Did you know you need a vaccine passport to enter all businesses in NYC but you do not need one to enter the subway.

So the most crowded place in New York City—the subway—does not require proof of vaccination.

A reminder that Covid is not about science, it’s about compliance.

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And, if you ignore the mask mandate in the subway, to-date I have not seen any enforcement of the mandate, either.  In fact, I routinely see cops in the subway either without masks, or with masks pulled down.

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If you cannot see the vast difference between smallpox and Covid, or polio and Covid - and the difference in the vaccines used against each - perhaps you should take a step back from the discussion.
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If you cannot see the vast difference between smallpox and Covid, or polio and Covid - and the difference in the vaccines used against each - perhaps you should take a step back from the discussion.

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My sister's request for a medical and religious exemption to the vaccine mandate has been denied. Five coworkers also had their requests denied. I told her to go public and raise a stink.
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My sister's request for a medical and religious exemption to the vaccine mandate has been denied. Five coworkers also had their requests denied. I told her to go public and raise a stink.
Might as well. She asked nicely. Prayers up for their success!
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Like whites are treated as much less than minorities or foreigners.  So religious exemptions are serious when applied to muslims, of little concern when Christians are considered.  People loved being trashed that why so many Christians vote democrat, and refuse to explain why.  To explain would be they have to embarrass themselves.
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Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Antihistamines and azithromycin as a treatment for COVID-19 on primary health care – A retrospective observational study in elderly patients


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7833340/

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Between March and April 2020, 84 elderly patients with suspected COVID-19 living in two nursing homes of Yepes, Toledo (Spain) were treated early with antihistamines (dexchlorpheniramine, cetirizine or loratadine), adding azithromycin in the 25 symptomatic cases. The outcomes are retrospectively reported. The primary endpoint is the fatality rate of COVID-19. The secondary endpoints are the hospital and ICU admission rates. Endpoints were compared with the official Spanish rates for the elderly. The mean age of our population was 85 and 48% were over 80 years old. No hospital admissions, deaths, nor adverse drug effects were reported in our patient population. By the end of June, 100% of the residents had positive serology for COVID-19. Although clinical trials are needed to determine the efficacy of both drugs in the treatment of COVID-19, this analysis suggests that primary care diagnosis and treatment with antihistamines, plus azithromycin in selected cases, may treat COVID-19 and prevent progression to severe disease in elderly patients.

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Just FYI, the OTC antihistamines out there  with their drug name and (marketing name)
    Brompheniramine (Dimetane)
    Cetirizine (Zyrtec)
    Chlorpheniramine (Chlor-Trimeton)
    Clemastine (Tavist)
    Diphenhydramine (Benadryl)
    Fexofenadine (Allegra)
    Loratadine (Alavert, Claritin)
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That's up to you.  It's your choice.  That's what Liberty is all about.

You know @Hoodat that’s one thing that really irks me about the vaccine tyrants.  Because there’s a group of us in the country that is very reluctant to take this I tested experimental vaccine…we get little mode in with the nutters that don’t  believe in taking ANY vaccine. 

My kids got all their well baby shots.  Every time I go on a cruise I meet with my PCM to see if I need any shots/boosters for where we are going.

We aren’t anti vaxx…what we are against is being forced to take a vaccine that allegedly is 95% “effective” with a virus that there is 98% survivable.
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If you cannot see the vast difference between smallpox and Covid, or polio and Covid - and the difference in the vaccines used against each - perhaps you should take a step back from the discussion.

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You know @Hoodat that’s one thing that really irks me about the vaccine tyrants.  Because there’s a group of us in the country that is very reluctant to take this I tested experimental vaccine…we get little mode in with the nutters that don’t  believe in taking ANY vaccine. 

My wife is anti-vaxx, primarily because of what happened to our son shortly after he received his vaccines at age 3.  The difference though with anti-vaxxers is that they aren't forcing other people to remain unvaccinated.  Contrast that with the jab tyrants wo want to force other people to get them against their will.
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I've read that the vaccine (dubious cure) can be more threatening (dangerous)than the disease itself. Other meicines have been effective without being a danger to survival.  Taking a dangerous medicine when effective and safe medicines are available, makes no sense.  Neither does Dr death Fauci and Biden trying to desperately to force bad medicine on us.  Other nations have proven their are much more effective and safer medicines that have worked VERY well, like India.  When they need to force vaccines on you, while importing the disease in huge numbers, it looks very sinister.  Denial and cluelessness looks to become very lethal this time.
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You know @Hoodat that’s one thing that really irks me about the vaccine tyrants.  Because there’s a group of us in the country that is very reluctant to take this I tested experimental vaccine…we get little mode in with the nutters that don’t  believe in taking ANY vaccine. 

My kids got all their well baby shots.  Every time I go on a cruise I meet with my PCM to see if I need any shots/boosters for where we are going.

We aren’t anti vaxx…what we are against is being forced to take a vaccine that allegedly is 95% “effective” with a virus that there is 98% survivable.
And there it is. I have been vaccinated against smallpox and polio (I remember when that one came out) and the usual run of childhood diseases, and against pneumococcal pneumonia, so I'm hardly anti-vaccine.

But this series of shots are not the same, they operate differently, they have not been thoroughly tested, and unfortunately, there has been such an infusion of corrupt politics into the discussion (when it is even allowed a forum), that I do not trust the people who are pushing this, from the highest levels.

We have been lied to about the effects of hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin, the studies crafted to discredit the treatment regimens that used those drugs were initially designed to show failure of a complete regimen, allegedly proven by testing just one or two parts of that regimen and not including one or more critical components of a multipart regimen.
That sort of scientificalish dishonesty trips a very big flag with me, and the same folks who were perpetrating it are the ones assuring us how safe and effective an untested (long term) NOVEL antigen producing substance is supposed to be. In the meantime, as the experiment continues, more flaws (lack of prevention of infection by variants, adverse reactions and effects, etc.) are being disclosed, but those who try to point them out are being routinely censored by people who are more interested in preserving narratives than scientific inquiry.

Ho, Hell NO.

I will remain with the control group who gets no shots.
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BREAKING: Biden says he will allow the country to get back to normal when 97-98% of Americans are vaccinated

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Remove all liabiity protections and let's see how long this jackass continues to flap his gums ......


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JUST IN - Harvard Business School moves classes online as COVID-19 “breakthrough” cases soar despite a 95% vaccination rate among students and staff.

Posted on 3:54 PM · Sep 27th, 2021

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