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On the other hand, if they're purged out, they'll most likely be on our side, without any compunction or sense of duty that they cannot oppose the government.

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This is why they will not even give credit to natural immunity. Kids get COVID, get over it, have antibodies, and move on. They not only don't need the shots, but have a chance of suffering serious harm.

It's just greed and lust for power.
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This is why they will not even give credit to natural immunity. Kids get COVID, get over it, have antibodies, and move on. They not only don't need the shots, but have a chance of suffering serious harm.

It's just greed and lust for power.
The vaccine is also a danger to natural immunity as it kills natural antibodies.

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The vaccine is also a danger to natural immunity as it kills natural antibodies.

And that's yet another reason why I will hold out as long as I can from having to get this vaccine.
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This is why they will not even give credit to natural immunity. Kids get COVID, get over it, have antibodies, and move on. They not only don't need the shots, but have a chance of suffering serious harm.

It's just greed and lust for power.

I think it is more than that. Dunno what.

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And that's yet another reason why I will hold out as long as I can from having to get this vaccine.

I'll flat NOT have it, no matter what.

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I'll flat NOT have it, no matter what.

Same here but it cost me my job.

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I'll flat NOT have it, no matter what.

I'm kinda up against it being a government civilian.  They aren't giving us an option to take the test.  It's just get it or else.

But since they haven't put out any deadlines on when we have to get jabbed I will hold out to the last hour of the last day before the deadline passes.

And I'm going to predict that the next group that this sh*t show of an administration will force to get the vaccine will be anyone getting medical care at a VA medical facility.
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Same here but it cost me my job.

Sorry for that. My job went away in the summer of lockdown. More or less anyway. I am self employed. But the phone has hardly rung at all since all this bullcrap started. I have been making do on subsistence and side-hustle getting close on two years. Will the phone ever start ringing again? Will I ever curse the dang thing and feel the ball and chain of Command Central again? It's looking like not.  :shrug:

So it goes. I was looking for work when I made this job... And I can make another. Actually doing fair just buying up old pickups, fixing and flipping them. The used market is insane right now.

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I'm kinda up against it being a government civilian.  They aren't giving us an option to take the test.  It's just get it or else.

But since they haven't put out any deadlines on when we have to get jabbed I will hold out to the last hour of the last day before the deadline passes.

And I'm going to predict that the next group that this sh*t show of an administration will force to get the vaccine will be anyone getting medical care at a VA medical facility.

I wonder what would happen if you and the countless others would band together and create a class action type document that basically holds the government liable for any adverse conditions or reactions from said forced vaccination.  Then seeif the gubmit agreesm and how far they push this thing.
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I'm kinda up against it being a government civilian.  They aren't giving us an option to take the test.  It's just get it or else.

But since they haven't put out any deadlines on when we have to get jabbed I will hold out to the last hour of the last day before the deadline passes.

And I'm going to predict that the next group that this sh*t show of an administration will force to get the vaccine will be anyone getting medical care at a VA medical facility.

Claim religious exemption as Christian kosher. And have it delivered by a lawyer.

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Claim religious exemption as Christian kosher. And have it delivered by a lawyer.
I used this language in a request for vaccine exemption on religious grounds I drafted for my sister (of course, some facts are particular to her):
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Religious Exemption

Every COVID-19 vaccine currently available in the United States was created and/or tested using aborted fetal tissue cell lines (some to a greater extent than others, but all of them use aborted fetal tissue to some degree). Each of the currently available vaccines derived from protein testing using the abortion-derived cell line HEK-293. Partaking in a vaccine made from aborted fetuses would make me complicit in an action that offends my religious faith and violates my conscience. As such, I cannot receive any COVID-19 vaccine and should be granted an exemption from any vaccine mandate.

My strongly held Christian beliefs in the sanctity of human life and the wrongfulness of abortion are longstanding. I am a lifelong Presbyterian. I was chosen to be a church officer and, at my church in Pittsburgh, served as the head of “Presbyterians Pro Life.” I share PPL’s statement of faith: “With the Christian Church throughout history, we believe that God, who made us in His own image, has forbidden us to shed innocent blood. PPL is committed to strengthening the bonds of family love and nurture, and to protecting innocent life. PPL offers a variety of written resources to the broader Christian community to help Christians approach matters of life and sexuality from the perspective of biblical faith.”

Although I am not Roman Catholic, I concur with the statement of Cardinal Raymond Burke, former Prefect of the Supreme Tribunal of the Apostolic Signatura, who said, “It must be clear that it is never morally justified to develop a vaccine through the use of the cell lines of aborted fetuses. The thought of the introduction of such a vaccine into one’s body is rightly abhorrent” (source: LifeSiteNews.com).

“The Pontifical Academy for Life says it is ‘right to abstain’ if refusal to use the vaccine can be done without causing harm to yourself or community. If you judge that you can go without the vaccine, you should do so, even if it means continuing to adopt social-distancing measures to keep those around you safe. This honors the safety of others while respecting the dignity of unborn human life. By making this choice, you are showing that you are willing to sacrifice personal comfort to reject a vaccine produced using the remains of an aborted child” (source: ncregister.com).
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The vaccine is also a danger to natural immunity as it kills natural antibodies.
Yep!

From: Differential effects of the second SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccine dose on T cell immunity in naïve and COVID-19 recovered individuals. https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.22.436441v1
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Our results demonstrate that the second dose increases both the humoral and cellular immunity in naïve individuals. On the contrary, the second BNT162b2 vaccine dose results in a reduction of cellular immunity in COVID-19 recovered individuals, which suggests that a second dose, according to the current standard regimen of vaccination, may be not necessary in individuals previously infected with SARS-CoV-2.
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I used this language in a request for vaccine exemption on religious grounds I drafted for my sister (of course, some facts are particular to her):

Yep. That ought to do it. I am not known for compromise when it comes to principle things. I would stand on that come hell or high water - And I believe that Yah would want it that way.

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I used this language in a request for vaccine exemption on religious grounds I drafted for my sister (of course, some facts are particular to her):

Can you send that to me in a PM?  I'm gonna need that here shortly I'm afraid.
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Can you send that to me in a PM?  I'm gonna need that here shortly I'm afraid.
Her exemption request cited religious and medical grounds, as she's had both Lyme disease and blood clots in the past, both of which may recur if she's subjected to the vaccine. She's still waiting to hear whether her request will be granted. Even if it is, they're telling her that she won't be able to use the dressing/locker room (she's a classical musician) and will have to wear a mask everywhere she goes - basically, she'll be a pariah. Idiots. Yes, I'll PM you.
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I'm kinda up against it being a government civilian.  They aren't giving us an option to take the test.  It's just get it or else.

Are you a contractor, or are you a federal employee?  Federal employees have it made because at some point way down the line, getting the jab will no longer be a qualifier for federal employment.  And when that happens, all fired employees will sue for wrongful termination.  They will not only win the case, but they will qualify for back pay.

The one thing for me that is certain, they are going to have to fire me.  I will not quit.  I will not make it easy for them.  The termination of my employment will 100% be on them.  And until I get a new job, I am going to file for unemployment.
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Biden says troops should be dishonorably discharged if they disobey order to get Covid vaccine

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10018635/Biden-says-troops-dishonorably-discharged-fail-Covid-vaccine.html

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That's just the first of 8 tweets of that list, there is a lot more.

OH yes! Very much more!
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Biden says troops should be dishonorably discharged if they disobey order to get Covid vaccine

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10018635/Biden-says-troops-dishonorably-discharged-fail-Covid-vaccine.html

There was a Senator from Kansas on the David Webb Show yesterday that's got legislation to prevent that from happening.

And as Webb accurately pointed out and the Senator said he'd work on...is adding protection from receiving a general discharge instead of a DD.
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Biden says troops should be dishonorably discharged if they disobey order to get Covid vaccine

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10018635/Biden-says-troops-dishonorably-discharged-fail-Covid-vaccine.html

Gotta give biden credit, he is consistent... he hates everyone, except socialists.

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Yeah, what about those smallpox and polio vaccines?  I shouldn't have to get those either.

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Yeah, what about those smallpox and polio vaccines?  I shouldn't have to get those either.

But those vaxs actually kept you from catching and spreading the virus, the covid vaxs do neither.....