Taliban has successfully worn out the US Army - analysis

[rangerrebew]

Taliban has successfully worn out the US Army - analysis

IDF withdrawals from both Lebanon and Gaza sent a message to terror groups that Israel can be beaten by wearing them down. That's exactly what Taliban has done to the US.
By ANNA AHRONHEIM   AUGUST 15, 2021 14:02
 
Afghanistan has fallen.

Almost 20 years after September 11th, Taliban has blitzkrieged through Afghanistan taking province after province after the United States withdrew their remaining troops.

The US and NATO invaded the impoverished mountainous country in 2001 to root out the extremist jihadist group that had sheltered al-Qaida.

https://www.jpost.com/international/taliban-has-successfully-worn-out-the-us-army-analysis-676758

[rangerrebew]

Taliban surge exposes failure of US efforts to build Afghan army

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/taliban-surge-exposes-failure-u-045939495.html

Maybe Gen. Milley should worry more about making troops combat ready and less about PC and Critical Race Theory!  You can't teach combat readiness if you, yourself, aren't ready.

[sneakypete]

You would have better luck teaching rocket science to cats than trying to teach civilization to Muslims.

Want to defeat them? Put an embargo on ALL Muslim nations,and not allow anyone or anything in or out. Any that do escape,should be immediated forced back across the border.

Let them continue to live in the 8th century until they all die off. Good riddance to bad trash.

[catfish1957]

You would have better luck teaching rocket science to cats than trying to teach civilization to Muslims.

Want to defeat them? Put an embargo on ALL Muslim nations,and not allow anyone or anything in or out. Any that do escape,should be immediated forced back across the border.

Let them continue to live in the 8th century until they all die off. Good riddance to bad trash.

There is a reason our ancestors fought these SOB's circa 1100-1300.  Our cultures and even given being are in conflict with each other.

[Restored]

A Muslim in Indonesia is vastly different from a Muslim in Afghanistan. Remember, Islam is a culture as much as it is a religion. Where they seem to be similar is a strict adherence to social order, even if that order is 8th century stuff. Afghanistan is always going to have warlords that control areas. That's the way it has been for eons.

The interesting thing will be what will happen when the Chinese try to take over. It is, after all, their turn to smack the tar baby. 

[catfish1957]

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The interesting thing will be what will happen when the Chinese try to take over. It is, after all, their turn to smack the tar baby.

The only difference in the Chicoms vs. the USSR ('70's-80's) and the U.S ('00's-10's), is the Chicoms don't f__ around.

You are right, it is their turn to play war in the oil patch.  Except watch for a level of ruthlessness, not seen since WWII.

[sneakypete]

A Muslim in Indonesia is vastly different from a Muslim in Afghanistan. Remember, Islam is a culture as much as it is a religion. Where they seem to be similar is a strict adherence to social order, even if that order is 8th century stuff. Afghanistan is always going to have warlords that control areas. That's the way it has been for eons.

The interesting thing will be what will happen when the Chinese try to take over. It is, after all, their turn to smack the tar baby.

@Restored

The Chinese have been controlling,or at least dominating Muslims for decades now. There is at least one section of China that is dominated by Muslims on the local level.

[sneakypete]

The only difference in the Chicoms vs. the USSR ('70's-80's) and the U.S ('00's-10's), is the Chicoms don't f__ around.

You are right, it is their turn to play war in the oil patch.  Except watch for a level of ruthlessness, not seen since WWII.

@catfish1957

More like "not seen since the Crusades". The Chinese do NOT play kissy-face with their enemies.

[txradioguy]

They didn't wear out the Army.  Like in Vietnam we never lost to the enemy on the battle field.

The politicians lost this one...again.

There's a lot of behind the scenes things that should have been done that weren't that led to the Taliban's stunning takeover of the country.

But those assholes did NOT wear out the Army.

[rangerrebew]

They didn't wear out the Army.  Like in Vietnam we never lost to the enemy on the battle field.

The politicians lost this one...again.

That was the case in Viet Nam, too.  General Giap said if that brave hero, Lurch Kerry and his Viet Nam Vets against the war, hadn't intervened with congress, North Viet Nam was headed for defeat.  I'm just thankful congress didn't "intervene" in WWII.  If they had, we'd all be Japanese German Americans.

[Restored]

@Restored

The Chinese have been controlling,or at least dominating Muslims for decades now. There is at least one section of China that is dominated by Muslims on the local level.

The same was true with the Soviets.

[sneakypete]

The same was true with the Soviets.

@Restored

Yup. As long as they behaved themselves and didn't try to leave their little area,the Soviets mostly left them alone. If they didn't,they got hammered with no mercy offered or given.

[Restored]

China has enjoyed a long period of making people do what they want them to do. They can make the Philippines dance like a marionette because they control their power grid. That doesn't work as well in places like Afghanistan and Africa.

[sneakypete]

China has enjoyed a long period of making people do what they want them to do. They can make the Philippines dance like a marionette because they control their power grid. That doesn't work as well in places like Afghanistan and Africa.

@Restored

Excellent observation.

[Hoodat]

Taliban has successfully worn out the US Army - analysis

IDF withdrawals from both Lebanon and Gaza sent a message to terror groups that Israel can be beaten by wearing them down. That's exactly what Taliban has done to the US.

Nope.  Not even close.  Politicians were responsible for this.  Politicians ordered withdrawals from Lebanon and Gaza.  The military was never worn out.

[rangerrebew]

Nope.  Not even close.  Politicians were responsible for this.   

The same was true of the American Civil War, too.

[DefiantMassRINO]

This is not a miltary defeat; it's a political one.

America didn't have the resolve to conduct total war upon the Taliban, which would have included the obliteration of the Saudi royal family, the United Arab Emirates' royal family, and Packistani intelligence.

We should have left the day after Osama bin Laden was found in Pakistan, and killed.

[berdie]

The same was true of the American Civil War, too.

And that is a true observation.

[Restored]

All we did was hold off the inevitable for 20 years. The Taliban was funded by the rich fatcats in the ME. Now that we are gone, their only source of money will dry up. No one is going to pay them to fight each other over nothing.

[Hoodat]

All we did was hold off the inevitable for 20 years. The Taliban was funded by the rich fatcats in the ME. Now that we are gone, their only source of money will dry up. No one is going to pay them to fight each other over nothing.

They still have rare earth metals and opium.  China will gladly pay for the former.  American junkies will gladly pay for the latter.

[rangerrebew]

American junkies will gladly pay for the latter.

Like Hunter Biden?