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White House, state AGs seek ways to hold manufacturers, dealers responsible for gun crimes
« on: August 06, 2021, 11:46:33 pm »
Joey Garrison   | USA TODAY 8/5/2021

   •   Attorneys general from 7 states plus D.C. will talk with the White House about fighting gun violence.

   •   The federal Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act is expected to be a key point of discussion.

WASHINGTON — White House officials met Thursday with attorneys general from seven states and the District of Columbia to discuss steps they can take to "hold accountable" gun manufacturers and dealers whose firearms wind up in shootings.

The virtual meeting, which lasted an hour, reflected a push by President Joe Biden to enlist states in his strategy to combat soaring gun violence as the Justice Department ramps up efforts at the federal level. Gun-related deaths are up 14% this year over 2020, according to the Gun Violence Archive, a research nonprofit.

A key part of the discussion was expected to center on the federal Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act, which gives gun manufacturers and dealers blanket immunity for being liable when their products are used to commit crimes. Biden has pushed for Congress to repeal the law, but that's unlikely in the Senate, where it would need 60 votes.

White House officials stressed that PLCAA provides a "predicate exception" for states that have their own laws that allow plaintiffs to seek claims against gun manufacturers and dealers for some culpability.

More: https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/08/05/gun-violence-white-house-state-ags-huddle-accountability/5496100001/
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Re: White House, state AGs seek ways to hold manufacturers, dealers responsible for gun crimes
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2021, 12:03:28 am »
Crazy...again.  There is NO GUN VIOLENCE.  My gun is very well behaved.  It is PEOPLE VIOLENCE , and those people will use knives, machetes, baseball bats, anything with which to do violence.  This is not about violence.  IT IS ABOUT MAKING US A COMMUNIST COUNTRY.  THOSE ON TOP IN CHARGE.  US, THE PEASANTS, BELOW.  Working for them and crumbs.  Feudal lords..again. 

The same about CAR VIOLENCE?  KNIVES VIOLENCE?  BASEBALL BAT violence?  Sue car manufacturers, et all?   Heck my coffee table, attacks my knee caps almost daily!  COFFEE TABLE VIOLENCE?   Sue furniture store?  Just crazy. 
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Re: White House, state AGs seek ways to hold manufacturers, dealers responsible for gun crimes
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2021, 12:23:47 am »
Coming as a surprise to absolutely no one but union workers and other communist scum.
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Re: White House, state AGs seek ways to hold manufacturers, dealers responsible for gun crimes
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2021, 05:48:02 am »
Sue the guy who sold the seed to the farmer who grew the grain the distillery made into mash to make the whiskey some store owner sold to some nameless peckerhead who drank too much and wrecked his car and killed people. We know it's the fault of the guy who sold the seeds. If it wasn't for him...

Responsibility, fiscal and otherwise, belongs with the perpetrator, not the manufacturer or supplier of something that, if used lawfully, would not have resulted in harm to any innocent.
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Re: White House, state AGs seek ways to hold manufacturers, dealers responsible for gun crimes
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2021, 12:49:38 pm »
They ought just cut to the chase and blame mamas for having bad babies.
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Re: White House, state AGs seek ways to hold manufacturers, dealers responsible for gun crimes
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2021, 06:47:45 am »
Quote from: sneakypete on August 07, 2021, 12:49:38 pm
They ought just cut to the chase and blame mamas for having bad babies.
QFT! If they weren't bad when they had them, they learned it...
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Re: White House, state AGs seek ways to hold manufacturers, dealers responsible for gun crimes
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2021, 11:07:24 am »
It's not about responsibility.  It's about putting all of the manufacturers and dealers out of business so that, as a practical matter, all new guns, and all non-home-reloaded ammo, is banned.
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« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2021, 05:22:52 pm »
Quote from: Kamaji on August 09, 2021, 11:07:24 am
It's not about responsibility.  It's about putting all of the manufacturers and dealers out of business so that, as a practical matter, all new guns, and all non-home-reloaded ammo, is banned.

Bingo!
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Re: White House, state AGs seek ways to hold manufacturers, dealers responsible for gun crimes
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2021, 06:21:35 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on August 07, 2021, 05:48:02 am
Sue the guy who sold the seed to the farmer who grew the grain the distillery made into mash to make the whiskey some store owner sold to some nameless peckerhead who drank too much and wrecked his car and killed people. We know it's the fault of the guy who sold the seeds. If it wasn't for him...

Responsibility, fiscal and otherwise, belongs with the perpetrator, not the manufacturer or supplier of something that, if used lawfully, would not have resulted in harm to any innocent.



 :beer:   Makes as much sense as taking away guns.   2ND....
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Re: White House, state AGs seek ways to hold manufacturers, dealers responsible for gun crimes
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2021, 06:22:31 pm »
Quote from: Kamaji on August 09, 2021, 11:07:24 am
It's not about responsibility.  It's about putting all of the manufacturers and dealers out of business so that, as a practical matter, all new guns, and all non-home-reloaded ammo, is banned.

Yes!   888high58888.  Right on! 
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« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2021, 06:26:42 pm »
Quote from: sneakypete on August 07, 2021, 12:49:38 pm
They ought just cut to the chase and blame mamas for having bad babies.

Watch it ....back it up to BAD SPERM......

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