Why I Refuse to Be Vaccinated

[Cyber Liberty]

Hooah! 

You retired in the nick of time, my brother.

Me too.  I'm sure my former employer has made the vax a "condition of employment."

[240B]

They can take that product they keep calling a vaccine and go piss up a rope AFAIC.

Why? Why is the government in such a panic over this vaccine which the CDC and Fauci have admitted DOES NOT WORK?
They are ready to send soldiers door to door to force everyone to take it at gunpoint. Why?

I've never seen anything like it in my life. And since they believe (incorrectly) that most people who have not been vaccinated are middle-age White Trump supporters, then why wouldn't the Democrats just let them die. Why do they care so much? It is like they are in some kind of manic frenzy over this vaccine. I simply do not understand. There must be more to this vaccine than just COVID. The government is losing their mind over it.

[240B]

You retired in the nick of time, my brother.

Me too. I got out just before Milley came out as a full blown Antifa/BLM/Democrat operative.
I wouldn't last a month in the military the way it is today.

[RB]

I had considered taking the jab. I'm in my late 60s with several comorbidities.
Then I discovered I'd have a 99.5 % chance of surviving.
If you walked into a Casino, and a game said you had a 99.5% chance of winning, how much would you bet?

The fact that all the drug companies are indemnified, and that "Vaccine" is a misnomer, gave me pause.

The fact that those 2 drugs, (I forget the names, and couldn't spell them anyway), seem to work, but aren't being used, because if they were, Big Pharma wouldn't be making the money they do, got me to thinking...

When Covid first hit, our Gov't told us to stay at home.
They never said, go outside in the sunshine & fresh air, take a walk, get some exercise, maybe take a vitamin.

I reside in the North East, when Covid hit it was Winter. Aside from some grocery shopping & Doctors
appointments, I pretty much hibernate anyway.

When Spring came I carried on my life as usual, and continue doing that today.

Now, with the Big Push to get everyone jabbed, I wonder why?

This may explain it...

https://oneradionetwork.com/all-shows/brandon-smith-why-are-globalists-and-governments-so-desperate-for-100-vaccination-rates-august-3-2021/

[libertybele]

I had considered taking the jab. I'm in my late 60s with several comorbidities.
Then I discovered I'd have a 99.5 % chance of surviving.
If you walked into a Casino, and a game said you had a 99.5% chance of winning, how much would you bet?

The fact that all the drug companies are indemnified, and that "Vaccine" is a misnomer, gave me pause.

The fact that those 2 drugs, (I forget the names, and couldn't spell them anyway), seem to work, but aren't being used, because if they were, Big Pharma wouldn't be making the money they do, got me to thinking...

When Covid first hit, our Gov't told us to stay at home.
They never said, go outside in the sunshine & fresh air, take a walk, get some exercise, maybe take a vitamin.

I reside in the North East, when Covid hit it was Winter. Aside from some grocery shopping & Doctors
appointments, I pretty much hibernate anyway.

When Spring came I carried on my life as usual, and continue doing that today.

Now, with the Big Push to get everyone jabbed, I wonder why?

This may explain it...

https://oneradionetwork.com/all-shows/brandon-smith-why-are-globalists-and-governments-so-desperate-for-100-vaccination-rates-august-3-2021/

First of all, @RB welcome to the Briefing Room.  It's truly a wonderful forum (bragging rights go to the boss @mystery-ak)

I have few doubts that the globalists/Chinese/Fauci/Biden are behind this pandemic to control the masses and I believe also to control the past election.

I live in FL and I knew something was terribly wrong when they shut us down and they shut our parks down as well.  Really, sunshine, fresh air and exercise is a bad thing??  For awhile I was actually seeing people wearing masks on kayaks or fishing. It just plain doesn't make sense, but that's how afraid the gov't has made people.

[Kamaji]

Yesterday China Joe actually cited Texas' high Covid rates as a reason states with lax Covid restrictions need to tighten up. Now thats hutzpah.

Any lie can be made to fly with a totally compliant media.

Bingo!

[240B]

For awhile I was actually seeing people wearing masks on kayaks or fishing. It just plain doesn't make sense, but that's how afraid the gov't has made people.

Saw a video (deleted now) of a guy in California arrested for surfing without a mask.
HE WAS IN THE OCEAN WITH NO ONE ELSE IN SIGHT, NOBODY ON THE BEACH EXCEPT HIM.
Yes. The sheriffs waded out into the surf to "nab" this dangerous menace to society.
It is not COVID that is going to kill us, it is the Democrats' "cure" that is going to take America down.

[txradioguy]

You retired in the nick of time, my brother.

Me too.  I'm sure my former employer has made the vax a "condition of employment."

Maybe.  If it becomes mandatory for the green suiters...the Fauci Ouchie will be mandatory for civilian employees too.

[RB]

First of all, @RB welcome to the Briefing Room.  It's truly a wonderful forum (bragging rights go to the boss @mystery-ak)

I have few doubts that the globalists/Chinese/Fauci/Biden are behind this pandemic to control the masses and I believe also to control the past election.

I live in FL and I knew something was terribly wrong when they shut us down and they shut our parks down as well.  Really, sunshine, fresh air and exercise is a bad thing??  For awhile I was actually seeing people wearing masks on kayaks or fishing. It just plain doesn't make sense, but that's how afraid the gov't has made people.

I wholeheartedly agree.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/08/oh_my_god_the_delta_variant_is_going_to_kill_us_all.html

[Restored]

I had considered taking the jab. I'm in my late 60s with several comorbidities.
Then I discovered I'd have a 99.5 % chance of surviving.

It's a little lower than that in that demographic. The problem isn't just dying. It's also being hospitalized or having long term issues. I know people who were sick 14 days before pneumonia set in. My sister got pneumonia immediately and had to be transported to the area Covid hospital in the next county. I know people whose kids got pretty sick but they got a headache. I found it was impossible to predict what was going to happen.

[Cyber Liberty]

It's a little lower than that in that demographic. The problem isn't just dying. It's also being hospitalized or having long term issues. I know people who were sick 14 days before pneumonia set in. My sister got pneumonia immediately and had to be transported to the area Covid hospital in the next county. I know people whose kids got pretty sick but they got a headache. I found it was impossible to predict what was going to happen.

...just like about every other contagious disease.

[Absalom]

When "Liberty" is any part of the question or answer to an matter/problem, count on
the predictable suspects to scream loudest that liberty is always the most important issue!
Hmm................. so is it? Let's reflect a moment.
From the dawn of Mankind, Rights were ingrained in his Nature, giving him the freedom to create.
Yet these Rights had a colleague, labeled Responsibilities; as they were joined at the hip.
This relationship existed for hundreds of thousands of years till the French Enlightenment emerged,
raising LIBERTE' to the pinnacle of Mankind's needs/wants, a fateful turn we pay for, ever since.
This Covid Disease is highly contagious and fatal unless arrested and our current antidote is vaccination.
Yet many assert the freedom to choose/refuse vaccination belongs to them alone.
Hmm................how 'bout the greater good?
Consider the following scenario from the reality of history;
A nation/state is attacked w/o cause by an enemy aggressor whereupon it imposes mandatory conscription on
its male population in order to defend itself.
Yet many of these males assert their freedom to accept/decline military service comes first and refuse  to serve.
Suggest the, liberty comes first drum beaters, get off their high-horse and get real!!!



 

[IsailedawayfromFR]

I refuse to get a vaccine because they do not exist for Covid.

Medical proof already exists that it does not work as advertised and can actually do damage to your health.

[240B]

I refuse to get a vaccine because they do not exist for Covid.

Medical proof already exists that it does not work as advertised and can actually do damage to your health.

This is true. Now they are coming up with the canard, "Yes, the vaccine does not prevent COVID. But when you do get it, your symptoms will be less severe." That is not the definition of a vaccine at all even if it is true, which has not been documented scientifically.

Does the documented risks of the vaccine outweigh the undocumented benefits? I vote no.
There was a doctor on Laura Ingram last night claiming that the vaccine could make some people sterile, regardless of age.
Maybe this is the whole point? I don't know?

[Kamaji]

This is true. Now they are coming up with the canard, "Yes, the vaccine does not prevent COVID. But when you do get it, your symptoms will be less severe." That is not the definition of a vaccine at all even if it is true, which has not been documented scientifically.

Does the documented risks of the vaccine outweigh the undocumented benefits? I vote no.
There was a doctor on Laura Ingram last night claiming that the vaccine could make some people sterile, regardless of age.
Maybe this is the whole point? I don't know?

Yes, it is the definition of a vaccine.

[Polly Ticks]

When "Liberty" is any part of the question or answer to an matter/problem, count on
the predictable suspects to scream loudest that liberty is always the most important issue!
Hmm................. so is it? Let's reflect a moment.
From the dawn of Mankind, Rights were ingrained in his Nature, giving him the freedom to create.
Yet these Rights had a colleague, labeled Responsibilities; as they were joined at the hip.
This relationship existed for hundreds of thousands of years till the French Enlightenment emerged,
raising LIBERTE' to the pinnacle of Mankind's needs/wants, a fateful turn we pay for, ever since.
This Covid Disease is highly contagious and fatal unless arrested and our current antidote is vaccination.
Yet many assert the freedom to choose/refuse vaccination belongs to them alone.
Hmm................how 'bout the greater good?
Consider the following scenario from the reality of history.
A nation/state is attacked w/o cause by an enemy aggressor whereupon it imposes mandatory conscription on
its male population in order to defend itself.
Yet many of these males assert their freedom to accept/decline military service comes first, refusing to serve.
Suggest the liberty comes first drum beaters get off their high-horse and get real!!!

Fatality is pretty rare if you look at the statistics, and very rare in otherwise healthy individuals.

Leaving that aside, the ultimate arbiter of the "greater good" is always going to be a point of contention. Some would contend that the greater good would be to allow the virus to run its course quickly in order to develop a true herd immunity rather than prolonging it.

[Cyber Liberty]

I just tell people who are foolish enough to ask that goes like this:

"I do a Risk/Benefit analysis before just about every time I have to make a choice (it's my nature because I'm risk averse), and the R/B for the "Vax" stacks up very poorly for me.  It's my choice.  My Body, My Choice, right?  Now, shut up and go deprive some powerless, unborn baby of its right to choose to live."

What the Communists are trying to do is tip that R/B towards Vaxing by shunning and blocking Refuseniks at every turn.  The trouble for them is, I ain't buying what their selling.  I could not possibly care any less about not being able to see some nutcase liberal rock star or movie that already piss me off with their politics.  I already don't fly anywhere since the TSA was hatched. 

[Cyber Liberty]

Fatality is pretty rare if you look at the statistics, and very rare in otherwise healthy individuals.

Leaving that aside, the ultimate arbiter of the "greater good" is always going to be a point of contention. Some would contend that the greater good would be to allow the virus to run its course quickly in order to develop a true herd immunity rather than prolonging it.

Other folks would contend the "Greatest Good" requires agents to catch you, pin you down, and force you to take the experimental "vaccine."  We call these people "Dictators," and you quoted a prime example of the mindset.  He is blind to the implications of these authoritarian actions, and supports them.

[roamer_1]

Meanwhile, cheap and easily acquired Ivermectin not only works in prophylactic fashion, it also can drastically curtail the virus if applied at early onset.

My brother caught the Wuhan Flu. had some Ivermectin laying around, started treatment at onset of symtoms... He is on day five, and symptoms have nearly gone. he will be done tomorrow, and will be considered free from quarantine on day 10.

[massadvj]

"By refusing to succumb to the pressure to get the Covid vaccination, these Americans are telling those in government that preserving the public’s health in the 21st Century requires preserving respect for personal liberty."

I am 68 years old, wish to travel internationally, and made the decision to go ahead and get two jabs. 

Making the personal choice to get the jab or not has nothing to do with "freedom."  While mandating the vaccine is definitely a usurpation of individual rights, deciding not to get the vaccine because you want to "preserve respect for personal liberty" is just plain stupid.

He is basically arguing that he is not getting the vaccine because Biden tells him he should.  I think I heard a similar argument from my two year old when I was trying to potty train her many years back. 

There might be many legitimate reasons not to become vaccinated, but this isn't one of them.

Of course I oppose vaccine mandates, and I support anyone who decides to remain unvaccinated, even if their reasons are as stupid as this guy's. C'mon, man.  Foregoing the vaccine does not make you a freedom fighter.

[Cyber Liberty]

"By refusing to succumb to the pressure to get the Covid vaccination, these Americans are telling those in government that preserving the public’s health in the 21st Century requires preserving respect for personal liberty."

I am 68 years old, wish to travel internationally, and made the decision to go ahead and get two jabs. 

Making the personal choice to get the jab or not has nothing to do with "freedom."  While mandating the vaccine is definitely a usurpation of individual rights, deciding not to get the vaccine because you want to "preserve respect for personal liberty" is just plain stupid.

He is basically arguing that he is not getting the vaccine because Biden tells him he should.  I think I heard a similar argument from my two year old when I was trying to potty train her many years back. 

There might be many legitimate reasons not to become vaccinated, but this isn't one of them.

Of course I oppose vaccine mandates, and I support anyone who decides to remain unvaccinated, even if their reasons are as stupid as this guy's. C'mon, man.  Foregoing the vaccine does not make you a freedom fighter.

@massadvj

I read the whole article, as did you, and I disagree with framing it as an issue of "Liberty" most times.  You can't explain liberty to somebody who doesn't believe in it, any better than explaining color to a blind man.  If you think that's tough, try explaining the concept of black and white TV, as I once attempted.

This means I don't use almost all the arguments presented in this piece when talking to lefties.  People on the right don't need me to explain at all.

[massadvj]

@massadvj

I read the whole article, as did you, and I disagree with framing it as an issue of "Liberty" most times.  You can't explain liberty to somebody who doesn't believe in it, any better than explaining color to a blind man.  If you think that's tough, try explaining the concept of black and white TV, as I once attempted.

This means I don't use almost all the arguments presented in this piece when talking to lefties.  People on the right don't need me to explain at all.

Here is an example of his reasoning:

Freedom of speech gives me the right to say something stupid.  So I am going to go out and say something stupid in order to preserve my freedom of speech.

Obviously, it just does not work that way.

[Cyber Liberty]

Here is an example of his reasoning:

Freedom of speech gives me the right to say something stupid.  So I am going to go out and say something stupid in order to preserve my freedom of speech.

Obviously, it just does not work that way.

 

Maybe it does work that way.  Take any random Tweet from Michael Moore or any Dem Congressrat.  They say stupid stuff all the time, just to prove they have the right to say it.  It's like having a relative over for Thanksgiving who doesn't have an unspoken thought.

But, I do get your meaning of the illogical thinking that takes. 

If I had to argue this topic with somebody, this would not be my article of choice to link.   

[Bigun]

I had considered taking the jab. I'm in my late 60s with several comorbidities.
Then I discovered I'd have a 99.5 % chance of surviving.
If you walked into a Casino, and a game said you had a 99.5% chance of winning, how much would you bet?

The fact that all the drug companies are indemnified, and that "Vaccine" is a misnomer, gave me pause.

The fact that those 2 drugs, (I forget the names, and couldn't spell them anyway), seem to work, but aren't being used, because if they were, Big Pharma wouldn't be making the money they do, got me to thinking...

When Covid first hit, our Gov't told us to stay at home.
They never said, go outside in the sunshine & fresh air, take a walk, get some exercise, maybe take a vitamin.

I reside in the North East, when Covid hit it was Winter. Aside from some grocery shopping & Doctors
appointments, I pretty much hibernate anyway.

When Spring came I carried on my life as usual, and continue doing that today.

Now, with the Big Push to get everyone jabbed, I wonder why?

This may explain it...

https://oneradionetwork.com/all-shows/brandon-smith-why-are-globalists-and-governments-so-desperate-for-100-vaccination-rates-august-3-2021/

I can't put my finger on their exact reason, but I am certain they have one.  There is zero logic behind getting vaccinated for something with a 99+% recovery rate. 

[Ghost Bear]

My brother caught the Wuhan Flu. had some Ivermectin laying around, started treatment at onset of symtoms... He is on day five, and symptoms have nearly gone. he will be done tomorrow, and will be considered free from quarantine on day 10.

So, how does one manage to have some Ivermectin "laying around"?  Asking for a friend...