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DOJ warnings to protect Capitol were ignored. Why?
« on: August 04, 2021, 11:42:49 am »
Powerline by Paul Mirengoff 8/3/2021

Did FBI leaders want Trump supporters to attack the Capitol? Did the leaders of the Capitol police want this? I can’t say they did.

What I can say is that the FBI was long concerned about the possibility of post-election violence, and that throughout the Justice Department there was grave concern about that possibility on January 6. Yet, neither the FBI nor the Capitol police did anything to prevent the storming of the Capitol.

Before the election, it was widely understood within the FBI and elsewhere at the Justice Department that Donald Trump, on the strength of in-person voting, would likely have early leads in swing states like Michigan and Pennsylvania, but that mail-in voting might well flip these states to Joe Biden. I’m told the FBI was worried that the erosion of Trump’s leads might lead to violence by Trump supporters.

Violence at that juncture was never likely and did not occur. However, as January 6 approached and many thousands of Trump supporters were coming to D.C., it was clear that violence and/or the storming of government buildings was very possible.

Accordingly, I’m told that Justice Department officials advised the FBI and the Capitol police to set up a perimeter to protect the Capitol and to deploy a force sufficient to prevent an attack. But this didn’t happen. Indeed, it’s my understanding that the doors to the Capitol building weren’t even locked on January 6.

More: https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/08/doj-warnings-to-protect-capitol-were-ignored-why.php

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Re: DOJ warnings to protect Capitol were ignored. Why?
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2021, 12:23:59 pm »
Why?  Because DOJ moles in Antifa/BLM were working to set the events in motion in the first place.  Why would the DOJ try to stop one of its own covert operations?

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Re: DOJ warnings to protect Capitol were ignored. Why?
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2021, 12:36:34 pm »
Why? Because Pelosi and company wanted what happened to happen for their power and political advantage.
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Re: DOJ warnings to protect Capitol were ignored. Why?
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2021, 12:57:26 pm »
Why? Because Pelosi and company wanted what happened to happen for their power and political advantage.

Yes.  I also believe that Pence knew what was going to happen!
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Re: DOJ warnings to protect Capitol were ignored. Why?
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2021, 01:21:13 pm »
Yes.  I also believe that Pence knew what was going to happen!

I'm skeptical about that...to me it would torpedo his chances when he runs in 2024.
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Re: DOJ warnings to protect Capitol were ignored. Why?
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2021, 01:25:36 pm »
I'm skeptical about that...to me it would torpedo his chances when he runs in 2024.

He managed to do that anyway so far as I'm concerned.
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Re: DOJ warnings to protect Capitol were ignored. Why?
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2021, 05:59:46 pm »
Pelosiroo's Kangaroo Kourt won't explore this, but why the FBI and Capitol Police ignored warning would be one of the primary avenues of a real investigation.
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Re: DOJ warnings to protect Capitol were ignored. Why?
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2021, 07:52:50 pm »
He manage3d to do that anyway so far as I'm concerned.

Affirmative, Pence screwed the pooch forever the same day as the "riot."
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Re: DOJ warnings to protect Capitol were ignored. Why?
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2021, 04:37:39 pm »
I'm noticing a familiar theme.

Despite a summer of love and "mostly peaceful demonstrations" that left areas of several cities in ruins, all done by Marxists and sympathizers in the Democrat Party,

It is always the Conservative factions who are anticipated to be violent in the media, but the Leftists who burn business districts and murder people.

If you think back to November 2, the odds-on favorites for more acts of violence were BLM and ANTIFA if Trump won, but again, the idea that Trump supporters would be the source of violence was something only rattling around the inside of demented Democrat heads.

We have had people come forward to say that bus loads of ANTIFA and BLM types came in and unloaded near the capitol, that social media messages indicated they would be there with MAGA/Trump hats on backwards, and Trump gear over their 'black bloc outfits', they've been 'made' in the video of the Capitol crowd, stopped from breaking windows by Trump supporters, and even filmed Ashli Babbit's murder.

Now footage emerges showing what appears to be Capitol Police instigating violent hostilities by firing flashbangs and gas and pepper spray into the crowd massed on the other side of the barriers.

I have read accounts that despite repeated entreaties to have additional manpower and even the National Guard at the Capitol for crowd control, the requests were turned down, and that refusal follows up the food chain through the House of Representatives Sargent at Arms and even to Pelosi, herself.

Yet the Democrats are acting as if they knew there would be unrest at the Capitol.

If that was the case, why no additional security?
Is it because they also knew agents provocateur would be present, both Government agency personnel and the Street Gang Socialists, operating to make sure there was an incident? Were Capitol Police under orders to make sure the crowd was pushed to the point that any ordinary human being would resort to violence (the physical equivalent of "fighting words") and to eventually let them in? (It is my understanding that the doors on the building are electronically operated deadbolts {correct me if I am wrong in this, I want to be sure this is right} that would have to be opened from the inside and are unlikely to be breached with the sort of stuff most people were carrying around that day.

So what looks like it was a crowd of Trump supporters (but was laced with busloads* of BLM/ANTIFA/? (insert alphabet agency moles here), approached the Capitol, mostly stayed on its side of the barriers and pulled away those who were damaging the building to stop them, were attacked with flashbangs while tightly packed (no ability to avoid the grenades), pepper sprayed and gassed while still on their side of the barrier, and occasionally, if they crossed it apprehended and seriously beaten while on the ground and held down by several officers, which would be gasoline on a fire at that point.

Needless to say, an incident was desired, to draw attention from the election fraud. I am sure it was a disappointment, and the Democrats have done all they can to promote it as a violent and armed insurrection with multiple deaths, right down to having crying cops testifying before Congress. (Oh, please.)

The reality: As many as seven shuttlebuses of ANTIFA/BLM types were seen unloading and gearing up in the vicinity of the incident. Average shuttle buses can carry 31 passengers, so that would be 217 people come to make sure there was a violent incident. Despite claims otherwise, we know that some of the crowd were BLM/ANTIFA people.

Is the rest of the footage being withheld to keep interested parties from identifying more?
Is that footage being withheld to keep from identifying Federal Informants, agents, UC/CI types who were inciting the crowd, perhaps even by leading the way and committing violent or destructive acts?
The only person killed in the Capitol (intentionally, violently, killed, not a death by natural causes or accident) was Ashli Babbit. 
The identity of the shooter was kept secret, even though the trend for the previous year was for the identity of police officers involved in killing suspects to be revealed within 48 hours.
Some possible irregularities surround the handling of her remains (cremated within 2 days of the autopsy).
Derek Chauvin is being imprisoned after kneeling on the side of the neck of a dying, overdosed, felon, and the Capitol Police are getting Congressional Medals?

The video footage montage of the event presented was edited to be unsettling, to create a sense of chaos in the building, when other videos show that to generally not be the case. The vast majority seemed more docile than sixth graders on a class trip. But the video reminds me of the trailer highlights for a low budget movie where flashes of the most intense parts of the movie are crammed into a 30 second trailer. If that is all there is for 14000 hours of video from all the various camera angles in the Capitol, they don't have much, but it would be good to be able to see and review it.
Does some of that video show collusion between agents provocateur and/or UC agents of alphabet agencies and the Capitol security? Would it provide the means to identify members of ANTIFA and BLM and other hirelings and is thus being suppressed? Would it provide Brady Material for the political prisoners being abused in solitary confinement?

If nothing else, some attorney should seize on that angle (want to bet that key footage would be "lost"?).
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« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2021, 04:56:22 pm »
@Smokin Joe it's also allowed the Dems to flip the script and make the audacious claim that it's the Republicans that hate cops and want to defund them.
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Re: DOJ warnings to protect Capitol were ignored. Why?
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2021, 05:03:30 pm »
@Smokin Joe it's also allowed the Dems to flip the script and make the audacious claim that it's the Republicans that hate cops and want to defund them.
I'm pretty sure the police know where the animosity really lies, especially after decades of having everything from bricks to frozen water bottles, golf balls with nails driven through them, propane tank bombs and Molotov cocktails and bags of urine and feces thrown at them by leftists.

Neither conservatives nor Republicans doing that throwing...
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Re: DOJ warnings to protect Capitol were ignored. Why?
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2021, 12:21:17 am »
Joe wrote:
"The only person killed in the Capitol (intentionally, violently, killed, not a death by natural causes or accident) was Ashli Babbit. 
The identity of the shooter was kept secret, even though the trend for the previous year was for the identity of police officers involved in killing suspects to be revealed within 48 hours.
Some possible irregularities surround the handling of her remains (cremated within 2 days of the autopsy).
Derek Chauvin is being imprisoned after kneeling on the side of the neck of a dying, overdosed, felon, and the Capitol Police are getting Congressional Medals? "


See Herbert Marcuse' doctrine of "repressive tolerance".
Any behavior by the right is to be condemned and not tolerated.
But...
Any behavior by the left is permissible and tolerated/excused.