How much worse can the coronavirus get?

[art.prout]

I called it from the get-go, Day one. So did Tumpy at the start... Too bad he folded on it.

And me and @Absalom tend to see eye to eye. There ain't many who will beat him at historical Conservatism.

You are damn right about that!

I don't know if he was fool enough to listen to the idiots surrounding him, or if he made a political calculation (wrt re-election), that influenced his poor performance.  Neither one reflects well on him.

[roamer_1]

You are damn right about that!

I don't know if he was fool enough to listen to the idiots surrounding him, or if he made a political calculation (wrt re-election), that influenced his poor performance.  Neither one reflects well on him.

To be fair, it was a trick bag, and a long bet. He bet short and lost.

[art.prout]

To be fair, it was a trick bag, and a long bet. He bet short and lost.

That sums it up.

 

[libertybele]

To be fair, it was a trick bag, and a long bet. He bet short and lost.

I think he connected the dots early on between China and Biden and only later realized that Fauci was in on the corruption. He did what needed to be done based on information that he was given. I believe Trump did an excellent job with the cards that he was dealt and no other president in modern history had to deal with a pandemic. The shutdowns were left up to the states and those recommendations were based on the information from the CDC, WHO and Fauci ...lies, lies and more lies. 

[skeeter]

I think he connected the dots early on between China and Biden and only later realized that Fauci was in on the corruption. He did what needed to be done based on information that he was given. I believe Trump did an excellent job with the cards that he was dealt and no other president in modern history had to deal with a pandemic. The shutdowns were left up to the states and those recommendations were based on the information from the CDC, WHO and Fauci ...lies, lies and more lies.

He tried to plow through with the hand he was dealt and prevail by being effective. But you don't beat the bureaucracy that way. In fact there is no beating the bureaucracy as long as the MSM acts as their mouthpiece.

[Hoodat]

How much worse can the coronavirus get?

Coronavirus isn't the problem.  The question is, "How much worse can the government get?"

[roamer_1]

I think he connected the dots early on between China and Biden and only later realized that Fauci was in on the corruption. He did what needed to be done based on information that he was given. I believe Trump did an excellent job with the cards that he was dealt and no other president in modern history had to deal with a pandemic. The shutdowns were left up to the states and those recommendations were based on the information from the CDC, WHO and Fauci ...lies, lies and more lies.

Right. Except it wasn't a pandemic.
And if he didn't know what Fauci was, that's on him.
And he shut the freaking country OFF. HE SHUT IT THE HELL OFF.

No excuse. And every failed business from that moment on is on him.

[sneakypete]

He tried to plow through with the hand he was dealt and prevail by being effective. But you don't beat the bureaucracy that way. In fact there is no beating the bureaucracy as long as the MSM acts as their mouthpiece.

@skeeter

You are wasting your time trying to reason with those people. They hate Trump because they see him as a rude Billionaire,and even if Jesus himself were to return to Earth and endorse Trump,they would still hate him and refuse to vote for him.

After all,he has bad manners,is a Billionaire born into money,and has a beautiful younger wife.

[libertybele]

Right. Except it wasn't a pandemic.
And if he didn't know what Fauci was, that's on him.
And he shut the freaking country OFF. HE SHUT IT THE HELL OFF.

No excuse. And every failed business from that moment on is on him.

The shutdown was voluntary and left up to the states. Yes, the states listened to what the CDC, WHO and Fauci recommended and pushed and Trump as well, suggested a time period to shutdown, but he did not mandate that states shutdown. After states shutdown he tried to mandate re-opening the economy and received pushback from governors that he didn't have that authority, that's when team Fauci stepped in and suggested phased re-opening which them Trump announced.

How the heck Fauci wound up being the "king" and authority on the pandemic is beyond me. He was in on the 'hype' even before the virus took hold on the U.S.  Trump was smart enough to close down travel from China and he was ridiculed at first for that effort.

You can blame and thank the shutdown on team Fauci.

https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-donald-trump-ap-top-news-politics-united-states-c90b24e60a4853cebe96ec995b626f9b

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/trump-resists-national-shutdown-leaving-it-up-to-states

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/03/trump-says-nationwide-lockdown-would-ultimately-inflict-more-harm-than-it-would-prevent.html

https://www.law.georgetown.edu/salpal/can-president-trump-countermand-state-and-local-closing-and-stay-at-home-orders-a-constitutional-overview/

[skeeter]

@skeeter

You are wasting your time trying to reason with those people. They hate Trump because they see him as a rude Billionaire,and even if Jesus himself were to return to Earth and endorse Trump,they would still hate him and refuse to vote for him.

I know, I ain't talking to them. Someone has to provide a realistic assessment.

[Cyber Liberty]

I called it from the get-go, Day one. So did Tumpy at the start... Too bad he folded on it.

And me and @Absalom tend to see eye to eye. There ain't many who will beat him at historical Conservatism.

Yes, his grasp of ancient history is the best (and I mean that sincerely, no sarcasm implied).

[roamer_1]

You can blame and thank the shutdown on team Fauci.

Yeah... With Tumpy standing right there next to him.

Whatever.

I am not into excuses. Allowing the country to be shut off is unconscionable.
Giving them the foot in the door that turned 'a few weeks' unto a year and a half is unforgivable.

I get that he started out right on it, but he folded. There is no two ways about it.
That anyone would feel the need to defend him for it is beyond me.

He WRECKED the country. Maybe he did it with the best of intentions. Doesn't matter. The country is still wrecked.

[libertybele]

Yeah... With Tumpy standing right there next to him.

Whatever.

I am not into excuses. Allowing the country to be shut off is unconscionable.
Giving them the foot in the door that turned 'a few weeks' unto a year and a half is unforgivable.

I get that he started out right on it, but he folded. There is no two ways about it.
That anyone would feel the need to defend him for it is beyond me.

He WRECKED the country. Maybe he did it with the best of intentions. Doesn't matter. The country is still wrecked.

The governors shut down the states. They were also responsible for reopening.  DeSantis and Abbot were strongly criticized for opening to soon.  They are still being targeted.

I am not making excuses for Trump, only clarifying .

As far as wrecking the country, his failure to invoke the Insurrection Act allowed mob rule and the leftists to get the upper hand.  Others disagree strongly with that, but that's my perspective.

[roamer_1]

@skeeter

You are wasting your time trying to reason with those people. They hate Trump because they see him as a rude Billionaire,and even if Jesus himself were to return to Earth and endorse Trump,they would still hate him and refuse to vote for him.

After all,he has bad manners,is a Billionaire born into money,and has a beautiful younger wife.

No @sneakypete

I refuse to vote for him because he spends like an aircraft carrier full of drunken sailors. He did real and lasting damage to fiscal conservatism and libertarianism that won't ever rub  off.

That is two of three root causes of political Conservatism.
Oh hell no I won't let that go. And not a damn one of you should expect me to.

[roamer_1]

The governors shut down the states. They were also responsible for reopening.  DeSantis and Abbot were strongly criticized for opening to soon.  They are still being targeted.

I am not making excuses for Trump, only clarifying .

Yeah... it's not that they were following his lead as he stood there daiiy right next to Fauci. Don't worry, I blame the governors too (most of em) for listening to Tump. But there he was, right at the tippy top.

[libertybele]

Yeah... it's not that they were following his lead as he stood there daiiy right next to Fauci. Don't worry, I blame the governors too (most of em) for listening to Tump. But there he was, right at the tippy top.

Yes he led the country in that perspective and in my perspective he did well but failed later to invoke the Insurrection Act.

Where to go from here is what needs to be figured out.

[roamer_1]

Yes he led the country in that perspective and in my perspective he did well but failed later to invoke the Insurrection Act.

Where to go from here is what needs to be figured out.

Well in my mind it sure as hell ain't voting for more.

[LegalAmerican]

@skeeter

You are wasting your time trying to reason with those people. They hate Trump because they see him as a rude Billionaire,and even if Jesus himself were to return to Earth and endorse Trump,they would still hate him and refuse to vote for him.

After all,he has bad manners,is a Billionaire born into money,and has a beautiful younger wife.

I agree.  ALL ABOUT ENVY....the root of all evil.  I support POTUS TRUMP.  He is on Rumble. 

[LegalAmerican]

I know, I ain't talking to them. Someone has to provide a realistic assessment.

Yes.  WWW.MAGAPILL.COM

[roamer_1]

I agree.  ALL ABOUT ENVY....the root of all evil.  I support POTUS TRUMP.  He is on Rumble.

NO it is not. It is all about massive damage to Conservatism, as I have said many times before.

[LegalAmerican]

My last post on this......FOR FUN. 
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Former President Donald Trump’s political committees raised $82 million during the first half of 2021 and have $102 million in the bank, according to federal filings to be made public Saturday evening.

The figures, shared first with POLITICO, underscore the profound reach of Trump’s fundraising power. While the former president is out of office and has been deplatformed on social media sites, he maintains a massive online donor network that he could lean on should he wage a 2024 comeback bid.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... =Peregrine

[LMAO]

NO it is not. It is all about massive damage to Conservatism, as I have said many times before.

@roamer_1

Forget that particular poster

It’s tough to counter emotional attachments even though the facts are on your side

I don’t like to Monday morning quarterback but Fauci should have been fired last year

The inflation we are seeing today also is on Trump’s shoulders

[sneakypete]

@roamer_1

Forget that particular poster

It’s tough to counter emotional attachments even though the facts are on your side

I don’t like to Monday morning quarterback but Fauci should have been fired last year

The inflation we are seeing today also is on Trump’s shoulders

@LMAO

Yeah,everything is Bad Orange Man's fault because he was born into wealth,right?

[roamer_1]

@roamer_1

Forget that particular poster

It’s tough to counter emotional attachments even though the facts are on your side

That's it, ain't it?  I guess I don't get how folks get so emotionally attached... He is in there to do a job. And he utterly failed to do it, at least from a Conservative perspective. Why is that so hard to swallow? Ran into it with Bush fans too.

I don’t like to Monday morning quarterback but Fauci should have been fired last year

The minute he was tied to the lab at Wuhan, for SURE.

The inflation we are seeing today also is on Trump’s shoulders

You bet it is. Inflation is a trailing indicator. Blaming it on Biteme is largely disingenuous or ignorant. Biteme is at fault too, and has his share. But also Tumpy. Maybe mostly Tumpy.

Hard telling for me - This nonsense started in Bushs 2nd term. And every president thereafter has performed lunatic levels of upmanship. But it does seem like the thing hit critical mass in Tump. My grocery bill has been going up for the past year, easy.

[LMAO]

@LMAO

Yeah,everything is Bad Orange Man's fault because he was born into wealth,right?