Origins of the surname "Gentile"

[sneakypete]

Just read an obituary of someone with the surname "Gentile",and every time I have seen that name I have been curious about the origins.

Was it created from someone expelled from a Jewish tribe?

Or maybe a Jew who denounced Judaism took that name as a symbol of protest?

Does anyone have a clue as to the origin?
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[Bigun]

Just read an obituary of someone with the surname "Gentile",and every time I have seen that name I have been curious about the origins.

Was it created from someone expelled from a Jewish tribe?

Or maybe a Jew who denounced Judaism took that name as a symbol of protest?

Does anyone have a clue as to the origin?
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I don't know about it becoming a surname, but the word "gentile" itself originally meant "not of this nation".

https://thebridgelifeinthemix.info/religion/bible-study-the-origin-and-meaning-of-the-word-gentile/

I'm sure you won't read that because of its title @sneakypete

I found this as well: https://www.ancestry.com/name-origin?surname=gentile

[sneakypete]

@Bigun

Thanks,but it makes my head hurt.

This post is a bookmark so I can come back to it when/if my chemo brain gets better later today.

[240B]

As a known proud Jew I happened to be stationed with a bunch of hard antisemites.
They told me that the term 'goyim' (literally meaning "nations" or non-Jewish) means pig-dog in Hebrew.
I just shrugged my shoulders and did not correct them. Neither confirm nor deny.
It actually made me laugh that they were that stupid.

Gentile and Ger (stranger in the tribe) are also terms for non-Jewish people.
None of them are derogatory in any way.
Just the opposite, they are to be treated with respect and love according to Torah.

[sneakypete]

As a known proud Jew I happened to be stationed with a bunch of hard antisemites.[/size]

@240B  In the Army?????

Seriously?

I frankly admit that my complete knowledge of the regular army amounted to "I don't like these "Wear red and march in a straight line MoFo's  almost as much as they don't like me",but I am honestly shocked by this.

Yeah,I can understand maybe being a little defensive/hostile to people of other races if you are young and have no personal experience with them,but what I can't understand is the NCO's not convincing them that "everybody is equal in this man's army,but you and me,bubba,and you had better get your ass ON that train or I am going to make your life a living hell."

And NO NCO worth is stripes is going to put up with that crap. Not even in a conventional unit full of dungheads.

I was just a poor white boy that grew up in the south and enlisted for airborne unassigned on my 17th birthday (which shows you how clever *I* was) ,and I honestly never had even one minute of trouble with anyone else of any race you care to mention the whole 7 years I served on active duty that was based on racial or religious prejudice one way or the other.

Yeah,I heard rumors about racial trouble in the 82nd Abn,but figured it was exaggerated. After all,that was an infantry division,and who needs unity more than an infantry unit?

I just remembered the 82nd was supposed to be having race riots sometime in the late 60's and SF units on base were issued weapons and ammo to repel boarders,but the blacks that were rioting wisely decided to leave us alone.

Even then I figured it was exaggerated.

They told me that the term 'goyim' (literally meaning "nations" or non-Jewish) means pig-dog in Hebrew.

How would a bunch of rednecks know what anything means in Hebrew?

I just shrugged my shoulders and did not correct them. Neither confirm nor deny.[/quote
It actually made me laugh that they were that stupid.

Wise move. I suspect they were unteachable.

Gentile and Ger (stranger in the tribe) are also terms for non-Jewish people.

I would have guessed that Ger was the origin of the word German.


 
 

[240B]

The Stranger in Your Gates | Der Fremdling in deinen Toren

יבהַקְהֵ֣ל אֶת־הָעָ֗ם הָֽאֲנָשִׁ֤ים וְהַנָּשִׁים֙ וְהַטַּ֔ף
וְגֵֽרְךָ֖ אֲשֶׁ֣ר בִּשְׁעָרֶ֑יךָ לְמַ֨עַן יִשְׁמְע֜וּ וּלְמַ֣עַן יִלְמְד֗וּ
וְיָֽרְאוּ֙ אֶת־יְהֹוָ֣ה אֱלֹֽהֵיכֶ֔ם וְשָֽׁמְר֣וּ לַֽעֲשׂ֔וֹת
אֶת־כָּל־דִּבְרֵ֖י הַתּוֹרָ֥ה הַזֹּֽאת

Deut.31:12 (KJV):

Gather the people together, men, and women, and children, and thy stranger that is within thy gates, that they may hear, and that they may learn, and fear the LORD your God, and observe to do all the words of this law.

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This is referring to nonJews living in Jewish camps. They were included with Jews in services and practices. There was no malice. They were part of the party.

וְגֵֽרְךָ֖ = and your strangers meaning people who are not Jewish.
Pronounced Ger-Cha

[Gefn]

@240B

Thank you for the lesson. I had a very hard time with learning Hebrew when I was 12, so I didn’t learn enough to have a Bat Mitzvah. Strange, because I taught Sunday School for three years in my twenties.


I started relearning Hebrew this past February in quarantine.  I’m still struggling with it, I’m just more patient than I was at 12.

[240B]

@240B

Thank you for the lesson. I had a very hard time with learning Hebrew when I was 12, so I didn’t learn enough to have a Bat Mitzvah. Strange, because I taught Sunday School for three years in my twenties.


I started relearning Hebrew this past February in quarantine.  I’m still struggling with it, I’m just more patient than I was at 12.

Have lain Torah many times in many different occasions. Lived and worked in Israel for years.
I could certainly help you with that, in another time and another place.

[sneakypete]

BTW,WTH is a 240B? I think I used to know,but can't remember to save my life.

[Gefn]

Have lain Torah many times in many different occasions. Lived and worked in Israel for years.
I could certainly help you with that, in another time and another place.

I would be honored, Sir. Thank you.
@240B