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COVID Began Far Earlier Than We Were Told
« on: July 12, 2021, 12:36:29 pm »
July 12, 2021
COVID Began Far Earlier Than We Were Told
By Brian C. Joondeph, MD

COVID has been a wrecking ball on the U.S. and world’s economies, devastating businesses, families, and individuals. How much of what we have been told by government “experts,” parroted by the media, has been false, either by design or incompetence?

One can debate how much destruction was due to the actual virus versus the response to the virus, diktats handed down from government and medical bureaucrats supposedly following the science, but in reality, following the political winds or their own partisan agendas.

Much of the so-called guidance was based not on science but instead a much simpler concept. If President Trump said X, then the Democrats, media, and administrative state said not-X, castigating and attempting to ruin anyone with the audacity to agree with Trump.

The Wuhan coronavirus did not become a household name until March 2020 when the business closures, lockdowns, and stay-at-home orders began. Before that it was just a minor news story yet even then the media was spewing anti-Trump sentiment.

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Re: COVID Began Far Earlier Than We Were Told
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2021, 12:45:35 pm »
Dr. Fauci? knowingly predicted the outbreak and is now calling for Mandated Vaccination.

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Re: COVID Began Far Earlier Than We Were Told
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2021, 01:22:37 pm »
I recall our church choir director had a persistent racking cough and was very weak and sick for at least three weeks in Nov. 2019. The doctor, thinking it was bronchitis, pumped him full of antibiotics, which didn't really help. The illness eventually ran its course and, even though he had some heart issues and was overweight, he recovered okay.

He certainly coughed in fairly close proximity to the choir members, but none of us got sick with Covid or whatever he had. When we first heard about Covid and the symptoms a few months later, he immediately came to mind. :shrug:
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Re: COVID Began Far Earlier Than We Were Told
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2021, 01:34:58 pm »
I too was sick at Christmas in 2019...well into Jan-Feb with multiple trips to the Dr and all kinds of meds...I got this *virus* from my d-i-l who was sick when she visited us before Christmas.

I swear I had Covid..had all the symptoms.
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Re: COVID Began Far Earlier Than We Were Told
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2021, 02:04:39 pm »
Depends upon whom you ask.

I recall there were CNBC correspondent and guest reports of a pneumonia outbreak in Wuhan China in Fall 2019.

Chances are that very early cases of Covid-19/SARS2-cov were diagnosed as pneumonia or acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS).  At that time, they were not aware of the asymptomatic community spread of the disease.
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Re: COVID Began Far Earlier Than We Were Told
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2021, 02:30:54 pm »
Yeah, it began in October 2019 just before cell-phone usage around the Wuhan Institute of Virology shut down completely between 7 and 24 October in response to what was, in retrospect, clearly the lab leak.  Want a fixed date?  Try 6 October 2019, though it could have been earlier if the leak took longer to detect.
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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2021, 02:36:17 pm »
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Re: COVID Began Far Earlier Than We Were Told
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2021, 03:03:32 pm »
Yeah, it began in October 2019 just before cell-phone usage around the Wuhan Institute of Virology shut down completely between 7 and 24 October in response to what was, in retrospect, clearly the lab leak.  Want a fixed date?  Try 6 October 2019, though it could have been earlier if the leak took longer to detect.

Where do the data on cell phone usage come from?

I am not doubting you - in fact, I think that would be a very interesting, indirect, way of showing that activity had shut down in a way that could most easily be explained by a shutdown due to a leak of the virus.  Indirect evidence is all we will ever get about the release of the COVID-19 from the Wuhan lab, because we most certainly will never get any direct evidence from the Chinese government (let alone a mea culpa from them).

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Re: COVID Began Far Earlier Than We Were Told
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2021, 04:03:30 pm »
Happy reading, comrades ...

US investigating 'hazardous event' in Wuhan lab in October

Emergence of genomic diversity and recurrent mutations in SARS-CoV-2

Redfield: COVID-19 Was in Wuhan in September or October 2019

The ancestor of SARS-CoV-2’s Wuhan strain was circulating in late October 2019

China's first Covid case could have been in October 2019, says UK study

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Re: COVID Began Far Earlier Than We Were Told
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2021, 07:04:11 pm »
Where do the data on cell phone usage come from?

A quick search for the string [ Wuhan Institute of Virology cell phone usage ] in your favorite search engine will turn up the reports from last May when it was noticed.
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Re: COVID Began Far Earlier Than We Were Told
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2021, 07:07:35 pm »
A quick search for the string [ Wuhan Institute of Virology cell phone usage ] in your favorite search engine will turn up the reports from last May when it was noticed.

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Re: COVID Began Far Earlier Than We Were Told
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2021, 08:31:09 pm »
It may have/probably entered this country earlier than we were told. I'm just trying to figure out what difference it would have made had we known. What would have anyone done differently?

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Re: COVID Began Far Earlier Than We Were Told
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2021, 08:52:29 pm »
If Chinese Communist authorities had been truthful and responsible, there was a greater chance that Covid-19/SARS-2 could have been contained, like the original SARS infections in 2003.
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Re: COVID Began Far Earlier Than We Were Told
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2021, 09:23:53 pm »
If Chinese Communist authorities had been truthful and responsible, there was a greater chance that Covid-19/SARS-2 could have been contained, like the original SARS infections in 2003.

The CDC and the WHO weren't truthful either. The leftists needed the excuse of a pandemic to put Biden's nomination into play and  shut the country down in order to  destroy Trump's roaring economy, to control the masses by fear and to head people towards socialism.
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Re: COVID Began Far Earlier Than We Were Told
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2021, 11:55:19 pm »
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Who else might be complicit, along with Dr. Fauci? The NOQ Report found, through a leaked confidentiality agreement, that Moderna and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease, the latter headed by clever Dr. Fauci, were a step ahead of a future outbreak. In December 2019, a month before the U.S. saw its first confirmed case, Moderna and NIAID were already testing coronavirus vaccine candidates. It’s almost as if they knew there would be a future need for such a vaccine. What a coincidence.

This claim is porcine manure. Moderna started working on their vaccine in mid January, after the SARS-CoV-2 DNA sequence was leaked to the world. The technology Moderna uses depends on having the target virus' DNA sequence - no sequence, no way to develop a vaccine.

The NOQ Report writer either mistook Moderna's prior research focused on the SARS and/or MERS virus (which was done), for work on the SARS-CoV-2 virus, or simply made bleep up to game anti-vaxxers' and other CT-ists' confirmation biases (including NOQ Report's).

Another inaccuracy in the American Thinker article is this statement:

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As antibodies take several weeks post-infection to develop ...

That's not how the immune system works. It's those antibodies that fight and end an infection.
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

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Re: COVID Began Far Earlier Than We Were Told
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2021, 12:09:17 am »
Where do the data on cell phone usage come from?
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From the Taiwan News article linked in DMRINO's post:

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The document asserts that the mobile phone data indicates that the outbreak occurred "earlier than initially reported" and claims that the evidence presented "supports the release of COVID-19 at the Wuhan Institute of Virology."

The data for the report was compiled from commercially available telemetry data in Wuhan. The authors of the report claim that traffic had been consistent around the WIV before October.

In a timeline of events derived from the data, the report cites a "hazardous event" occurring between Oct. 6 and 11 and a "substantial decrease in activity" from Oct. 11 to Oct. 24.

From Oct. 14 to Oct. 19, the report claims that there was "absolutely no traffic in the area surrounding WIV." The authors of the report then allege that "roadblocks" were erected to prevent traffic from approaching the facility.

I've posted about this before, speculatively. This looks like a leak was discovered within the WIV lab in early October. The lab was then shut down for clean-up, hence the cell phone activity reducing to zero and after a couple of days building back to normal. My guess is that either the clean-up was not 100% effective or a lab worker was infected before the shut-down became 100%. Either way, a lab worker became the true Patient Zero (or maybe has such a mild case that (s)he was never hospitalized).
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

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