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CNN medical analyst suggests life 'needs to be hard' for unvaccinated Americans
« on: July 10, 2021, 07:04:26 pm »
CNN medical analyst suggests life 'needs to be hard' for unvaccinated Americans
Wen urged President Biden to get behind 'vaccine credentialing'
By Cortney O'Brien | Fox News

  CNN medical contributor Dr. Leana Wen suggested Saturday that life needs to be "hard" for Americans who have not received a COVID-19 vaccine and individuals who refuse to get shots should perhaps face weekly testings.

"It needs to be hard for people to remain unvaccinated," Wen, the former Planned Parenthood president, said. "Right now, it's kind of the opposite."

Unvaccinated people, she fretted, can at the moment go about their lives as normal without any consequence.

"But at some point these mandates, by workplaces, by schools, I think it will be important to say, ‘Hey, you can opt out, but if you want to opt out, you have to sign these forms, you have to get twice weekly testing,’" Wen said.  "Basically, we need to make getting vaccinated the easy choice."


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Re: CNN medical analyst suggests life 'needs to be hard' for unvaccinated Americans
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2021, 07:12:17 pm »
KMA libtard douche nozzle.  People who preach this kind of communist crap need to have their lives made hard...real hard.
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« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2021, 07:15:45 pm »
This is how Americans get repaid for granting asylum to a commie.
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Re: CNN medical analyst suggests life 'needs to be hard' for unvaccinated Americans
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2021, 07:17:39 pm »
So if you choose not to vaccinate, you shouldn't be able to live normal life. Sounds like a tyranny to me.
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« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2021, 08:28:54 pm »
What I emphasized says what needs to be known:

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CNN medical contributor Dr. Leana Wen suggested Saturday that life needs to be "hard" for Americans who have not received a COVID-19 vaccine and individuals who refuse to get shots should perhaps face weekly testings.

"It needs to be hard for people to remain unvaccinated," Wen, the former Planned Parenthood president, said. "Right now, it's kind of the opposite."

 *****rollingeyes***** OK, blood-on-hands Wen, how, within the law, does "hard for people to remain unvaccinated" happen. *****rollingeyes***** Does the Feds have some sort of raygun or divining rod that detects the unvaccinated? *****rollingeyes*****

Other than revealing the tyrannic heart of blood-on-hands Leana Wen and of BMM's talking heads, this is an empty threat.
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Re: CNN medical analyst suggests life 'needs to be hard' for unvaccinated Americans
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2021, 08:33:35 pm »
Quote from: Wingnut on July 10, 2021, 07:12:17 pm
KMA libtard douche nozzle.  People who preach this kind of communist crap need to have their lives made hard...real hard.

Today, vaccinations...   Tomorrow, political ideologies....

Example is those who were harrassed and prosecuted on January 6th who didn't even go in the Capitol.
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Re: CNN medical analyst suggests life 'needs to be hard' for unvaccinated Americans
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2021, 08:44:50 pm »
My body, my choice you evil witch.
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« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2021, 09:38:09 pm »
It really truly is 'curious'?
Why is the "deep-state" and the more exterior 'government' so obsessed with 'vaccinations'?
I mean, really, it is not logical. If the government wants people who refuse vaccination to die, then let them.
The point is, why would the deep-state and the government be so fanatical about saving the lives of people they hate?
There is more to this 'vaccination' thing than we are being told. The government is acting insane over it.
For no logical reason.

If people want to die, then let them die. Why does this keep Fauci and his deep-state brothers awake at night?
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« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2021, 09:45:52 pm »
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I think it will be important to say, ‘Hey, you can opt out, but if you want to opt out, you have to sign these forms, you have to get twice weekly testing,’" Wen said.  "Basically, we need to make getting vaccinated the easy choice."

In other words, vaccines aren't chosen based on their merits, so we need to coerce people to get them by punishing those who choose not to get them.
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Re: CNN medical analyst suggests life 'needs to be hard' for unvaccinated Americans
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2021, 09:53:30 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on July 10, 2021, 08:33:35 pm
Today, vaccinations...   Tomorrow, political ideologies....

Example is those who were harrassed and prosecuted on January 6th who didn't even go in the Capitol.

Notice that they are going to let the PRIVATE SECTOR do the dirty work, so they can pull a 'Pontius Pilate'...washing their hands.

Lose your employment, etc..

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Re: CNN medical analyst suggests life 'needs to be hard' for unvaccinated Americans
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2021, 09:57:20 pm »
Why in the world would Bill Gates (a multi-billion billionaire) give a shit about who gets vaccinated and who does not.
You know, the very "panic" of the government and billionaires over pushing vaccination makes me wonder.
What the Hell is going on? Door to Door! Really!
This is beyond Science Fiction. It is beyond absurdity. What is this all about?
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« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2021, 10:00:25 pm »
I admit, I didn't play the video, but did anyone mention the natural immunity that comes from having had COVID and survived?

Seems to me the antibodies from surviving the disease would be every bit as good as the vaccine.

And I would bet there are thousands of people who had mild cases who are walking around with natural immunity who went undiagnosed.
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Re: CNN medical analyst suggests life 'needs to be hard' for unvaccinated Americans
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2021, 04:07:50 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on July 10, 2021, 10:00:25 pm
... did anyone mention the natural immunity that comes from having had COVID and survived? 1

Seems to me the antibodies from surviving the disease would be every bit as good as the vaccine. 2

And I would bet there are thousands of people who had mild cases who are walking around with natural immunity who went undiagnosed. 3

1 I used to mention that frequently here in TBR.

2 I've seen info to the effect that immunity from recovery is as effective and long-lasting as from vaccination alone.

3 Both of people who knew they probably had it but didn't get tested and of people who were asymptomatic.

Gooberment "health" officials have consistently ignored immunity from recovery. The most benign reason is that while antibody tests are readily available, there is no way to quantify how many such immune people are "out there". But in practical terms, the 49.7% totally-vaccinated number for the US probably understates the number of immune in the US by at least 10%-20%. IOW, the US is in the statistical realm where the number of immune people in the US very significantly limits outbreaks from happening and limits the extent of those that do.
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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2021, 04:12:50 pm »
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KMA libtard douche nozzle.

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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2021, 05:26:07 pm »
This is remarkably similar to their plans on combating racism.  Life needs to be made hard for white people, so they get to feel what it's like.  Leftists think that will create harmony, but they are making enemies of people.

Fighting racism with more racism, a recipe for a full-blown race war between people who hate each other.  Sometimes one must create enemies so they can have a nice war.  This vaccine craze is just another leaf in that book.
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« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2021, 05:36:31 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on July 10, 2021, 10:00:25 pm
And I would bet there are thousands of people who had mild cases who are walking around with natural immunity who went undiagnosed.

Which makes me question why antibody tests have been discouraged throughout.
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« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2021, 09:48:22 pm »
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Which makes me question why antibody tests have been discouraged throughout.

From https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-july-9-2021 (July 9, 2021):

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As of today, 395 tests and sample collection devices are authorized by the FDA under emergency use authorizations (EUAs). These include 282 molecular tests and sample collection devices, 84 antibody and other immune response tests and 29 antigen tests. There are 52 molecular authorizations and one antibody authorization that can be used with home-collected samples.

From https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-daily-roundup-july-10-2020 (July 10, 2020):

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Testing updates:

To date, the FDA has currently authorized 173 tests under EUAs; these include 144 molecular tests, 27 antibody tests, and 2 antigen tests.

Authorizing dozens of antibody tests from various companies is a very strange way to discourage antibody testing.
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« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2021, 09:49:49 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on July 10, 2021, 08:33:35 pm
Today, vaccinations...   Tomorrow, political ideologies....
Already a thing. I posted a thread a few days ago about Capitol One cancelling a credit card because they didn't like the guy's political ideology.
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« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2021, 09:52:46 pm »
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« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2021, 03:28:28 am »
Quote from: PeteS in CA on July 11, 2021, 09:48:22 pm
From https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-july-9-2021 (July 9, 2021):

From https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-daily-roundup-july-10-2020 (July 10, 2020):

Authorizing dozens of antibody tests from various companies is a very strange way to discourage antibody testing.

@PeteS in CA

That's really beautiful and all, but it has absolutely NOTHING to do with what I said.  Has the FDA approved antibody tests?  Of course.  Has the CDC offered mass antibody testing across the nation?  Absolutely not.  In fact, the general narrative for over a year now has been that antibody tests can't be trusted.  And it wasn't until recently that the CDC even acknowledged that the antibody response from infection is quite robust even though they have known it for over a year.

This from the CDC last March (three months after NIH reported the robust effectiveness of natural immune response):


Interim Guidelines for COVID-19 Antibody Testing in Clinical and Public Health Settings

Updated Mar. 17, 2021

Antibody testing is not currently recommended to assess for immunity to COVID-19 following COVID-19 vaccination or to assess the need for vaccination in an unvaccinated person.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/lab/resources/antibody-tests-guidelines.html


So in essence, the CDC is dismissing antibody test results as a factor for making medical decisions.
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Re: CNN medical analyst suggests life 'needs to be hard' for unvaccinated Americans
« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2021, 10:12:24 am »
Quote from: PeteS in CA on July 11, 2021, 09:48:22 pm
From https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-july-9-2021 (July 9, 2021):

From https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-daily-roundup-july-10-2020 (July 10, 2020):

Authorizing dozens of antibody tests from various companies is a very strange way to discourage antibody testing.
There are a bunch of machine gun manufacturers in the US, too. They are all licensed to produce them. Now try and buy one.
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Re: CNN medical analyst suggests life 'needs to be hard' for unvaccinated Americans
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2021, 01:45:05 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on July 12, 2021, 10:12:24 am
There are a bunch of machine gun manufacturers in the US, too. They are all licensed to produce them. Now try and buy one.

https://questdirect.questdiagnostics.com/products/covid-19-immune-response/b580e541-78a5-48a6-b17b-7bad949dcb57

The Quest Diagnostics location I use is ~5 minutes' drive from my home.

CVS - https://www.cvs.com/minuteclinic/services/covid-19-antibody-testing

Labcorp (available through Walgreens) - https://www.labcorp.com/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/individuals/antibody-test

Kroger - https://www.kroger.com/health/pharmacy/covid-care

Hy-Vee - https://www.hy-vee.com/my-pharmacy/services/covid-19-testing

Unlike machine guns, Covid antibody tests are easily available.

Further, I've now shown that the FDA encourages antibody testing by having authorized dozens of different companies' tests. I've also shown that diagnostic labs, pharmacy chains, and grocery chains with in-house pharmacies advertise Covid antibody tests among the suite of Covid-related tests they offer. Who are the "they" who discourage antibody testing? MSM Panic Porn purveyors? :silly: Anti-vaxxers like RFK Jr. and Joseph Mercola? :silly:  :silly:  :silly:
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Re: CNN medical analyst suggests life 'needs to be hard' for unvaccinated Americans
« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2021, 02:00:05 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on July 12, 2021, 01:54:09 pm
Next time I'm in California, I'll get one then.
Several months back, while it was easy to get tested for an active infection the only place offering antibody tests was over forty miles away from where I live. It was available but not easy to get. I'm sure thats changed now.
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« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2021, 02:05:12 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on July 12, 2021, 01:54:09 pm
Next time I'm in California, I'll get one then.

Kroger, Walgreens, CVS, and Hy-Vee are all over the US, though I'm not sure Kroger and Hy-Vee operate in California. Unsuccessful


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