Vaccinated people safe from delta variant and other COVID-19 mutations

[mystery-ak]

Vaccinated people safe from delta variant and other COVID-19 mutations
by Cassidy Morrison, Healthcare Reporter |
 | July 01, 2021 06:16 AM

The Pfizer, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson vaccines are thought to be effective against the highly transmissible delta variant, meaning another major wave of infections and hospitalizations is unlikely.

“If you're vaccinated, you are safe from the variants that are circulating here in the United States,” said Rochelle Walensky, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, on Wednesday.

The delta variant, estimated to be around 60% more transmissible than the highly infectious U.K. variant, poses a threat to countries where vaccines are scarce. It has spread rapidly through India, where it was first discovered and where less than 13% of the population has received a shot. However, the U.K. has vaccinated nearly 58% of its population, but the variant accounts for more infections than all other virus strains.

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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/vaccinated-people-safe-delta-variant-covid-19-mutations

[rustynail]

People may be safe but what about our pets?

Biden now claims that if you don't get vaccinated you will transmit the Delta variant to your pets.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1411052504100610056

[catfish1957]

People may be safe but what about our pets?

Biden now claims that if you don't get vaccinated you will transmit the Delta variant to your pets.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1411052504100610056

The dims are on perpetual scare tactics mode now.  They've unlocked the secret key to getting the population to capitulate to their whims...   Lilke masks, cards, and phony lockdowns.

[libertybele]

The dims are on perpetual scare tactics mode now.  They've unlocked the secret key to getting the population to capitulate to their whims...   Lilke masks, cards, and phony lockdowns.

My hubby just told me that he was watching the news and that they are claiming that those who are not vaccinated will have an 85% mortality rate from the new variant.

Meanwhile a 12 year old girl who received the vaccine is now suffering and is in a wheelchair.

85% mortality rate is pretty grim. 

There are always going to be variants of this virus but I am still not convinced that the vaccines are safe for everyone ... just ask the 12 year old sitting in a wheelchair.

By the way, I agree with you; it's all about "control" and pushing us towards socialism.

[Hoodat]

Recent Cleveland Clinic study shows naturally formed immunity from prior infection is more effective than vaccine.  Not one person in the study who had already had Covid developed a second infection.  Not a single one.  In other words, there is no reason for anyone who has survived Covid to get the vaccine.  This is what the science shows, yet the government is still pushing Covid survivors to get the vaccine.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.01.21258176v2.full.pdf

[libertybele]

Ok, if I accept what the headline says at face value, how long are people safe from variants? 

Will people need to be vaccinated every year, just like the flu vaccine??

I'm still waiting for true mortality rates from this vaccine and also the long term effects (if any).

[The_Reader_David]

My hubby just told me that he was watching the news and that they are claiming that those who are not vaccinated will have an 85% mortality rate from the new variant.

Surely not.  The case fatality rate for the original strain is about 2.2%.  Probably your hubby misheard and misinterpreted an 85% greater mortality rate for the new variant (meaning a case fatality rate of just over 4%).  Still having a 1 in 25 chance of dying unvaccinated vs. chances on the order of less than 1 in 100,000 of a nasty side-effect from the vaccine (and probably a higher chance of the same nasty side-effect if you catch COVID -- cf. the finding that the blood clots that worried folks about J&J and Oxford vaccines occur with 20 times the frequencey in actual COVID cases), is a strong argument for getting vaccinated.

[Smokin Joe]

And still no mention of early onset treatments...

[libertybele]

And still no mention of early onset treatments...

Good point.

[jmyrlefuller]

And still no mention of early onset treatments...

Because contrary to what you heard from Jerome Corsi fronts, none have reliably been proven to work. Not a single properly designed double-blind study has shown anything more than a marginal benefit.

[Hoodat]

Because contrary to what you heard from Jerome Corsi fronts, none have reliably been proven to work. Not a single properly designed double-blind study has shown anything more than a marginal benefit.

I call BS.

[Hoodat]

Use of Ivermectin Is Associated With Lower Mortality in Hospitalized Patients With Coronavirus Disease 2019: The Ivermectin in COVID Nineteen Study

[Smokin Joe]

Because contrary to what you heard from Jerome Corsi fronts, none have reliably been proven to work. Not a single properly designed double-blind study has shown anything more than a marginal benefit.

You hand the placebo to someone infected with COVID, then.

It may not be double blind (which essentially provides NO treatment to sick people as part of the study), but there is this and an increasing body of evidence that early onset treatments provide a definite benefit.

https://www.ijidonline.com/action/showPdf?pii=S1201-9712%2820%2930534-8

https://www.sciencetimes.com/articles/25658/20200512/hydroxychloroquine-azithromycin-zinc-triple-combo-proved-effective-coronavirus-patients-study.htm

I'll continue to read the journals, and spot the bogus studies where zinc was not administered, or treatment was used in late stage patients instead of early onset (remember, the strategy of the pharmacology is to stop the virus from reproducing and damaging lung cells, something most effective at the first onset of symptoms).

The strategy is to get the zinc ions into the type 1 pneumocytes ahead of the virus, and stop the virus from destroying those cells. Hydroxychloroquine, Ivermectin, Quercetin, and other ionophores have proven successful at doing this.
Zinc is commonly used as an antiviral, even in remedies for the common cold (about 25% of which are caused by Coronaviruses).

 Please read through the articles at the links.

[Hoodat]

Treatment with hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, and combination in patients hospitalized with COVID-19

[jmyrlefuller]

Treatment with hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, and combination in patients hospitalized with COVID-19

Results of the study:
Control - 26% death
HCQ - 13% death... BUT...
HCQ+antibiotic - the same cure-all regimen the hacks keep pushing - back up to 20% death, meaning there is so much statistical inconsistency that nothing can be gleaned from it.

I know, I know... "bUt tHeY dIdN't iNcLuDe zInC!!!1"

[Smokin Joe]

The Potential Impact of Zinc Supplementation on COVID-19 Pathogenesis

From the journal Frontiers in Immunology.

Outlines the importance of zinc to the immune system and in COVID treatment.

Again, I will note that almost every study which panned the use of Hydroxychloroquine, Hydroxychloroquine and Axzithromycin, or Ivermectin and Doxycyclene, LEFT OUT THE ZINC, which is a key element in the treatment.

[Hoodat]

Results of the study:
Control - 26% death
HCQ - 13% death... BUT...
HCQ+antibiotic - the same cure-all regimen the hacks keep pushing - back up to 20% death, meaning there is so much statistical inconsistency that nothing can be gleaned from it.

I know, I know... "bUt tHeY dIdN't iNcLuDe zInC!!!1"

So hydroxychloroquine exhibited a death rate 25-50% lower than no hydroxychloroquine.  That's a tad better than marginal, don't ya think?

[Victoria33]

The UK will decide in August if they want their people to get a third vaccine shot which would begin in September.

[PeteS in CA]

Moderna vs. variants, https://investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/moderna-provides-clinical-update-neutralizing-activity-its-covid .

J & J vs. variants, https://www.jnj.com/positive-new-data-for-johnson-johnson-single-shot-covid-19-vaccine-on-activity-against-delta-variant-and-long-lasting-durability-of-response

Pfizer vs, variants, https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/pfizer-says-covid-vaccine-is-highly-effective-against-delta-variant-2021-06-24

That said, the Epsilon Semi-Moron variant is impervious to all vaccines, facts, and reality.

[Hoodat]

That said, the Epsilon Semi-Moron variant is impervious to all vaccines, facts, and reality.

And then there's the Zeta Full-Moron variant.

[Smokin Joe]

Results of the study:
Control - 26% death
HCQ - 13% death... BUT...
HCQ+antibiotic - the same cure-all regimen the hacks keep pushing - back up to 20% death, meaning there is so much statistical inconsistency that nothing can be gleaned from it.

I know, I know... "bUt tHeY dIdN't iNcLuDe zInC!!!1"

Yep, they didn't. About as effective as sending empty landing craft to the beach on D-Day would have been.

Ridicule away, I don't get my info from Jerome Corsi. I get it from medical journals.  I am a scientist, and can tell when studies are flawed, because they did not set up their experiment to properly test a hypothesis.

If the hypothesis is that a stool will hold a human with three legs and the study only uses two legged stools (and notes people fall over), they did not test the hypothesis, any more than  administering partial regimens to late stage patients tested the efficacy of HCQ/Zithromax/zinc, or Ivermectin/Doxycycline/Zinc. That didn't stop the GOTTA VAX community from attacking the treatments, even though the studies were critically flawed.

It turns out that SOME patients have enough zinc in their system to benefit from the ionophoric effects of HCQ or Ivermectin (or Quercetin, or Hinokitiol, or Epigallocatechin gallate, and others).

Zinc sulfate in combination with a zinc ionophore may improve outcomes in hospitalized COVID-19 patients

Ionophore (Read about the biological effects at the bottom, also the supplements people may have taken routinely which may have inadvertently saved their lives, or reduced the severity of their disease.)

This isn't a question of me proving Trump right, I really don't give a flying bleep whether he is right or not.

Instead, it is a question of the population of the whole world being denied a cheap, available treatment which could have lessened the incredible misery and millions of deaths which came with the pandemic, and could continue to do so in the future. It is about science, GOOD SCIENCE, and a doctor censored from YouTube and other venues (ever wonder why some folks end up on fringe websites? It's because they have been cancelled by more mainstream sites like twitter and fecebook, and they don't fall in line with what the MSM is selling.

Wrap your head around the fact that the whole lockdown, the whole economic devastation, the disruption of countless children's educations, Kabuki masks, and the hideous death toll and expense was for the most part, unnecessary.

Once you get there, certain people took full political advantage of the fortuitous (for them) timing of the release of the pathogen SARS-CoV-2 from the Wuhan lab, and maybe you will see some theories are just conspiracies and crimes against humanity (While the MSM celebrates 100 years of the CCP).

[Smokin Joe]

So hydroxychloroquine exhibited a death rate 25-50% lower than no hydroxychloroquine.  That's a tad better than marginal, don't ya think?

(Without the benefits of the zinc supplementation.)

[libertybele]

Who should and shouldn’t get the COVID-19 vaccine?

https://yalehealth.yale.edu/yale-covid-19-vaccine-program/who-should-and-shouldnt-get-covid-19-vaccine

[PeteS in CA]

Who should and shouldn’t get the COVID-19 vaccine?

https://yalehealth.yale.edu/yale-covid-19-vaccine-program/who-should-and-shouldnt-get-covid-19-vaccine

From the article:

Can people with allergies get the COVID-19 vaccine? Yes, in most cases with 2 exceptions:

1. People with a severe allergic reaction (anaphylaxis) to any component of either an mRNA vaccine or the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine should NOT receive that vaccine. Many people will be safely able to receive an alternate vaccine. An allergic reaction is considered severe when it is classified by a healthcare provider as an anaphylactic reaction or a person needs to be treated with epinephrine or EpiPen© or if the person must go to the hospital.

If You Are Allergic to Polyethylene Glycol (PEG) or Polysorbate

>>>> PEG and polysorbate are closely related to each other. PEG is an ingredient in the mRNA vaccines (Pfizer and Moderna), and polysorbate is an ingredient in the Johnson & Johnson (J&J)/Janssen vaccine. If you are allergic to PEG, you should not get an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine. Ask your doctor if you can get the J&J/Janssen vaccine.


>>>> If you are allergic to polysorbate, you should not get the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccine. Ask your doctor if you can get an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine.

2.  People with a severe allergic reaction (anaphylaxis) to any vaccine or injectable (intramuscular or intravenous) medication should consult with their health provider to assess risk prior to receiving the COVID-19 vaccine.

When I signed up for my appointment to get the first dose of Pfizer I had to go through a screening questionnaire that, among other questions about one's general health, included questions about prior allergic reactions to vaccinations and medications. That was with Rite Aid, and when I got my Shingrix vaccination at CVS/Target I did a similar questionnaire. Since my Shingrix vaccination was before any Covid vaccination was authorized for use in the US, those allergy-related questions are obviously standard practice.

[LegalAmerican]

It seems it is not true.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp_zNSEW1wc&t=1s