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Are We Nazi Germany?
« on: July 01, 2021, 12:53:35 pm »
July 1, 2021
Are We Nazi Germany?
By Ronald E. Yates

I've noticed that whenever the subject of Nazi Germany is raised, someone always says something like this: "It's unbelievable that Adolf Hitler was able to manipulate and control the entire German population.  It just seems impossible."

Yet that's exactly what he did.  Yes, there were some dissenters and political foes, but they were subdued and quashed as the boundless power of the Nazi regime shut down all dissent with the use of the brown-shirted Sturmabteilung or SA, the Schutzstaffel or SS, and the dreaded Gestapo or Geheime Staatspolizei.

Perhaps a bit of context is in order here.  I spent three years in Germany with the Army Security Agency involved in SIGINT (intelligence derived from electronic signals and systems used by foreign targets).  I am fluent in German, my wife is German, I have studied German history, and I keep up with current events in the country.

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Re: Are We Nazi Germany?
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2021, 12:56:21 pm »
We are in many respects mirroring the same political tactics the German socialists used in the run-up to the Nazi consolidation of power (Nazis were socialists - read their manifestoes).

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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2021, 01:48:16 pm »
The Nazis never had more than 30% public support - right up until the time it was clear party membership was requisite to making a decent living and avoiding unwanted social scrutiny.

We've even got the ethnic scapegoating going on now. The only thing missing is the nationalism.

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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2021, 10:14:09 pm »
Similarities -
    Violent gangs causing chaos
         Nazis - Brown Shirts     

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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2021, 10:33:16 pm »
So many similarities...
    Nazis had Brown Shirts, gangs fomenting violence and chaos
    Democrats have ANTIFA and BLM looting and burning

    Nazis staged the Reichstag burning to stir up hatred for Communism and faked a Polish attack on Germany to justify the invasion of Poland
    Democrats staged the 6 January display to stir up hatred for Republicans

    Nazis established a Ministry of Propaganda to control information available to citizens
    Democrats seized control of mass media (to the point they can run pics of looters and rioters in Minneapolis carrying "Defund the Police" signs while absurdly claiming it is the Republicans that propose defunding the police)

    Nazis established Hitler Youth organizations to brainwash the young
    Democrats introduced Critical Race Theory in schools to brainwash the the young

    Nazis established Jews as an evil, common enemy to unite their followers in a common cause
    Democrats established Trump supporters as an evil, common enemy to unite their followers in a common cause

   

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« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2021, 10:52:20 pm »
 The pandemic was inflicted upon us in order to 'control'.  How ridiculous it was that they closed parks and prohibited people from enjoying fresh air, exercise and sunshine!  They shutdown schools but originally we were told our youth would not be affected, yet now they are subjecting our children to risks from a vaccine that has had minimum research.  Different variants continue to pop up and we are told that we must still wear masks even if vaccinated.  Millions complied and in doing so, people lost their jobs, businesses shutdown all to march us towards socialism. So, is this any different than Hitler imposing 'control' over the masses??

When the virus was first made known, I thought, ok, it is necessary to take precautions, but when it was mandated that we quarantine and stay shut inside and couldn't even go outside to a park, and in fact, parks and streets were patrolled and people were pulled over by the police to see if they were considered a 'necessary worker', I knew and felt something was terribly wrong.

Unconstitutional.  Unnecessary. IMHO all inflicted by the current administration in order to not only win an election, but to see how quickly and easily they could control the populace. 

Variants are going to continue, just like the cold virus was never cured, nor the flu.  So, should we continue to accept being told to wear masks?  Get additional vaccines? Should we again shut down businesses and throw people out of work?

I THINK NOT!
Romans 12:16-21

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« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2021, 11:02:14 pm »
The Nazis never had more than 30% public support - right up until the time it was clear party membership was requisite to making a decent living and avoiding unwanted social scrutiny.
Now, a mask is the requisite symbol that you are onboard with the program.
You must have a mask to exit your home, to ride a bus, to buy or sell, to work, etc.
Just like wearing a swastika in the 1930s, today wearing a mask serves the same purpose.
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« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2021, 11:34:02 pm »
No, but headed in that direction.

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« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2021, 11:59:27 pm »
I'm so glad to live in a FREE place... Texas. No mask mandate... schools open... restaurants, shops, beaches, malls all wide open.

Now northern blue states are the "slave states".

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« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2021, 12:04:37 am »
I'm so glad to live in a FREE place... Texas. No mask mandate... schools open... restaurants, shops, beaches, malls all wide open.

Now northern blue states are the "slave states".

Same here.  I'm glad to live in FL.  No mask mandates (except in medical facilities), beaches, schools, bars, parks, restaurants..ALL open and have been for quite some time.

Looking at things you are correct; northern blue states are "slave states".  My hunch is with the Delta variant, the gov't will try to force the FREE states to shutdown and comply again.
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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2021, 12:06:35 am »
Trump prefers to be "King" of America.  Kings have gold furniture and Trump also has a gold potty at home and in his airplane.  Nazis cannot compete with Trump's furniture and gold; Trump wins.

About the virus:
I did not need anyone to tell me to stay home or force me to stay home.  The virus was in the public and people were dying, more every day.  I knew I could not fight that off due to my age, so I stayed home. 

If I had been younger and had a family and could work at home, I would do that to protect us all.  I do not consider the government the enemy.  The virus was the problem, not the government.  It did not surprise me that people had to have someone to blame, so it was the government.
« Last Edit: July 02, 2021, 12:16:47 am by Victoria33 »

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« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2021, 12:15:28 am »
Trump bought his own furniture with his own money, not public funds.

Some people blame successful people for their own inability to be successful. They are called whiners and  complainers.

Others succeed.

Before you start blaming your circumstances, let me tell you about my college roommate. He was raised in Spanish Harlem in a urine-smelling tenement. High crime area. No dad. Mom a seamstress working day and night to get by. He's an MD today.

Now go ahead and tell us how put down you are and how jealous of achievers you are.

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« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2021, 12:26:35 am »
Amazing how Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) can turn relatively intelligent people into drooling imbeciles.
Yes indeed, Liberals are more or less admitting to the fact that they are fascists. Now, they want to spew the gaslighting nonsense that Trump was more fascist than they could ever hope to be. Yes we are NAZIs, but Trump is worse!
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
Rational fear and anger at vicious murderous Islamic terrorists is the same as irrational antisemitism, according to the Leftists.

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« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2021, 12:28:21 am »
Trump prefers to be "King" of America.

Utter nonsense.
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« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2021, 01:20:22 pm »
No, but headed in that direction.
At breakneck speed.
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« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2021, 01:25:41 pm »
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« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2021, 05:55:07 pm »
Wow...........topic sure brought out the ax-grinders; Nazi Germany>covid-19>Trump, etc!
On topic, Hitler and the Nazi Party were the consequence of the result of the Great War.
So a reflection on history.
In 1870, the ranking European power was France w/a non-unified Germany rising rapidly.
Then both went to war, ending 6 months later, w/Germany unified and France crushed.
Three Germans were catalysts for that result; Prussian Emperor Wilhelm 1,
Chancellor Otto Von Bismarck and Military Head Helmuth Von Moltke, each a genius.
Germany continued her dominance of European affairs, also unnerving the British Empire
while the French seethed for revenge. The consequence was the Great War in 1914.
Yet the three who led Germany in 1870 were gone, replaced by Emperor Wilhelm 2,
Chancellor Von Bethmann-Hollweg and General Erich Ludendorff, mediocrities each & all.
The result was a German defeat, in a conflict they were capable of winning easily,
changing Europe and the World forever.
The German People, embittered by that outcome, embraced Hitler as he promised
to reverse that result and not because they had any delusions about his leadership.
So much for political promises.

« Last Edit: July 02, 2021, 06:56:47 pm by Absalom »

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« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2021, 09:50:15 pm »
One of Bismarck's quotes is a favorite of mine: "Smart people learn from their mistakes. Brilliant people learn from the mistakes of others."

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« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2021, 10:00:00 pm »
Trump prefers to be "King" of America.  Kings have gold furniture and Trump also has a gold potty at home and in his airplane.  Nazis cannot compete with Trump's furniture and gold; Trump wins.

About the virus:
I did not need anyone to tell me to stay home or force me to stay home.  The virus was in the public and people were dying, more every day.  I knew I could not fight that off due to my age, so I stayed home. 

If I had been younger and had a family and could work at home, I would do that to protect us all.  I do not consider the government the enemy.  The virus was the problem, not the government.  It did not surprise me that people had to have someone to blame, so it was the government.

The CDC, WHO and Fauci ALL lied about the virus.  I am 99.99% certain that the virus was purposefully leaked by our gov't/Bidens  and the Chinese in order to control us and to sway an election.

I didn't need anyone to tell me that being mandated to stay home because of the virus, only to also discover that we couldn't even go outside for a walk in the park, that something was terribly wrong.  It still is.

Romans 12:16-21

Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

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« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2021, 10:09:44 pm »
Nazi Germany?
Don't be serious. Really.

Now... think "Moscow, late 1918".
That's more like it.

And stop this nonsense about there being no difference between the German Nazis and the communists. That, too, is pretty much nonsense.