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Biden recognizes Armenian genocide
« on: April 24, 2021, 04:58:30 pm »
Biden recognizes Armenian genocide
By Morgan Chalfant - 04/24/21 12:04 PM EDT


President Biden on Saturday formally declared that the massacre of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians by the Ottoman Empire more than a century ago was “genocide,” a move that is likely to exacerbate tensions with Turkey.

In doing so, Biden is fulfilling a campaign promise and becoming the first sitting president since Ronald Reagan to use the term “genocide” to describe the mass killings that occurred during the 20th century at the end of World War I.

"Each year on this day, we remember the lives of all those who died in the Ottoman-era Armenian genocide and recommit ourselves to preventing such an atrocity from ever again occurring," Biden said in a statement released by the White House.

"Beginning on April 24, 1915, with the arrest of Armenian intellectuals and community leaders in Constantinople by Ottoman authorities, one and a half million Armenians were deported, massacred, or marched to their deaths in a campaign of extermination," Biden continued. "We honor the victims of the Meds Yeghern so that the horrors of what happened are never lost to history. And we remember so that we remain ever-vigilant against the corrosive influence of hate in all its forms."

While Biden's move to use the term "genocide" will be welcomed by bipartisan members of Congress, human rights advocates and the Armenian community, it is also expected to complicate relations with Turkey, a NATO ally with which the U.S. has increasingly clashed.

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Re: Biden recognizes Armenian genocide
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2021, 04:59:10 pm »
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Re: Biden recognizes Armenian genocide
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2021, 06:39:41 pm »
This was a long time coming.  Turks need to acknowledge what happened, and reverse their drift towards Islamist rule. 

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Re: Biden recognizes Armenian genocide
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2021, 06:58:55 pm »
Hey, Plugs actually did something I like.

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Re: Biden recognizes Armenian genocide
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2021, 10:23:49 pm »
Agreed, Bass.
It's about time.

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Re: Biden recognizes Armenian genocide
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2021, 03:35:59 am »
The democrats muslim buddies were committing a holocaust on Armenian Christians, about the time democrats were still actively lynching black people.
The hated by democrats, Winston Churchill tried to stop it,
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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2021, 03:47:17 am »
The democrats muslim buddies were committing a holocaust on Armenian Christians, about the time democrats were still actively lynching black people.
The hated by democrats, Winston Churchill tried to stop it,
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Winston Churchill did less about the Armenian Genocide than he did
about planning a successful invasion at Gallipoli; which was ZERO!!!

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Re: Biden recognizes Armenian genocide
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2021, 04:26:17 am »
This was a long time coming.  Turks need to acknowledge what happened, and reverse their drift towards Islamist rule.

Drift?

Turkey is an Islamic state under strict Islamic rule.

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Re: Biden recognizes Armenian genocide
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2021, 10:23:41 pm »
Drift? Turkey is an Islamic state under strict Islamic rule.
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DB, indeed.
The Ottoman Caliphate emerged around 1450 and endured for almost 500 years!

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Re: Biden recognizes Armenian genocide
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2021, 12:28:48 am »
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Absalom:
Winston Churchill did less about the Armenian Genocide than he did
about planning a successful invasion at Gallipoli; which was ZERO!!!

Really?

 https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/armenian-genocide/

Churchill’s attitude toward Turkey eased after he became War Secretary in January 1919. He found British forces stretched thin as the armies receded during demobilization. “There were seeds of trouble everywhere,” he warned the Cabinet in August. Withdrawal from the Caucasus “would be the signal for a general massacre of the Armenians.” On the other hand, he wished to remove British troops from Turkey. They would be better employed keeping the peace in other parts of the old Ottoman Empire

Churchill strongly backed Atatürk. “By regaining our influence over the Turks,” he said, “we should be able to do something to save the Armenians….”16 In 1921, Turkish forces opposing the Greeks threatened to march on British garrison at Chanak. Churchill urged “a friendly peace.” (This is incidentally the opposite of that bellicose attitude his critics say he habitually adopted.) Hostilities with Britain were avoided. In 1923-24, Atatürk signed the Treaty of Lausanne, which established the borders of modern Turkey.


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Re: Biden recognizes Armenian genocide
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2021, 12:34:43 am »
Biden would not recognize Armenian genocide if it bit him in the butt.

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« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2021, 03:21:14 am »
Really?bhttps://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/armenian-genocide/
Churchill’s attitude toward Turkey eased after he became War Secretary in January 1919. He found British forces stretched thin as the armies receded during demobilization. “There were seeds of trouble everywhere,” he warned the Cabinet in August. Withdrawal from the Caucasus “would be the signal for a general massacre of the Armenians.” On the other hand, he wished to remove British troops from Turkey. They would be better employed keeping the peace in other parts of the old Ottoman Empire
Churchill strongly backed Atatürk. “By regaining our influence over the Turks,” he said, “we should be able to do something to save the Armenians….”16 In 1921, Turkish forces opposing the Greeks threatened to march on British garrison at Chanak. Churchill urged “a friendly peace.” (This is incidentally the opposite of that bellicose attitude his critics say he habitually adopted.) Hostilities with Britain were avoided. In 1923-24, Atatürk signed the Treaty of Lausanne, which established the borders of modern Turkey.
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« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2021, 03:59:42 am »
Really?
Churchill’s attitude toward Turkey eased after he became War Secretary in January 1919. He found British forces stretched thin as the armies receded during demobilization. “There were seeds of trouble everywhere,” he warned the Cabinet in August. Withdrawal from the Caucasus “would be the signal for a general massacre of the Armenians.” On the other hand, he wished to remove British troops from Turkey. They would be better employed keeping the peace in other parts of the old Ottoman Empire
Churchill strongly backed Atatürk. “By regaining our influence over the Turks,” he said, “we should be able to do something to save the Armenians….”16 In 1921, Turkish forces opposing the Greeks threatened to march on British garrison at Chanak. Churchill urged “a friendly peace.” (This is incidentally the opposite of that bellicose attitude his critics say he habitually adopted.) Hostilities with Britain were avoided. In 1923-24, Atatürk signed the Treaty of Lausanne, which established the borders of modern Turkey.
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Your assertion about Churchill dealt w/The Armenian Genocide; so when you're called out
as absurd, you simply change the subject and timeline. How predictable.
Suggest you listen up and learn something!!!
The Ottoman Caliphate was established around 1540, enduring for some 5 centuries.
It was viscerally hostile to Christians/Christianity engaging in many assaults on this
minority, most aggressively in 1895, killing more than 100,000 and again in 1915
killing far more; around 1.5 million.
The catalyst behind this Ottoman paranoia was their neurotic belief that Armenian
Peasants were secret allies of Czarist Russia, intent on overthrowing the Caliphate.
Repeating, Churchill did nothing to mitigate the impact of the Armenian Genocide
during WW1, NOTHING!
Nor did he do anything to mitigate the tragedy at Gallipoli on the Dardanelles
Peninsula that same year, which cost the Australian & New Zealand Allies some
250,000 casualties.
As First Lord of the British Admiralty since 1914, Logistics & Planning for that assault,
which Churchill promoted, were his core responsibility. 
Churchill had many pluses during his lifetime; yet military competence was hardly
one of them.





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Re: Biden recognizes Armenian genocide
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2021, 03:47:57 am »
You have a very serious reading comprehension problem.

Churchill strongly backed Atatürk. “By regaining our influence over the Turks,” he said, “we should be able to do something to save the Armenians.”16 In 1921, Turkish forces opposing the Greeks threatened to march on British garrison at Chanak. Churchill urged “a friendly peace.” (This is incidentally the opposite of that bellicose attitude his critics say he habitually adopted.) Hostilities with Britain were avoided. In 1923-24, Atatürk signed the Treaty of Lausanne, which established the borders of modern Turkey.
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« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2021, 08:31:19 pm »
You have a very serious reading comprehension problem.
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“By regaining our influence over the Turks,” he said in 1921, “We should be able to do
something to save the Armenians. Churchill urged “a friendly peace.”
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The Armenian Genocide occurred in 1914-15.
Obviously you relish acting the buffoon, like Stan Laurel.
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Re: Biden recognizes Armenian genocide
« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2021, 05:05:48 am »
Churchill made a lot of statements about that time, that certainly doesn't mean he made all his statements As events happened.  I've talked about ancient times and commented, do you think then i was there as events happened ?
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