Thank you, thank you Verga. I just saw this, after Sneaky excoriated me for being CORRECT. OFFICER TATUM, knows more about this, than I do. LEGAL STOP. SNEAKY owes me an apology.
@LegalAmerican Ok,to start with,this guy is full of Bush. MANY temporary tags are not made of cardboard,but of paper,and are glued to the rear window. He is either a retard,a liar,or from a state that doesn't offer paper tags and not bright enough to check to see if Va does.
I had one in the rear window of an old Buick I bought off of a used car lot when I was living in Denver,and was stopped by the Denver PD for "failure to display a license tag" when the glue let go and it fell in the floor. Cops stopped me and asked me where my tag was,I said "Huh?",and we both saw it sitting in the floor in the rear of the car. Cops told me to get some tape and tape it back up,and went away. Something similar is what SHOULD have happened with the LT.
AND.......,on top of that,traffic stops that lead to the cold-blooded murder of cops like the video he shows are 1 in 100,000 stops,or maybe even fewer. This does NOT mean it is not a real concern,though. In fact,the one shown in the video with the idiot gunning down the cop gets me steamed. It was nothing less than cold-blooded murder. I regret that he ended up killed in a gun fight with police because the SOB should be forced to spend decades suffering while locked up in a freaking cage. Preferably while suffering from wounds received when they got him.
In fact,that is the ONLY argument that makes me ALMOST see the benefit to ending the death penalty. Which causes the most suffering,being executed or spending decades locked away in a maximum security prison?
Not to mention,you execute a prisoner,it has an emotional impact on the other prisoners for a week,maybe two weeks. You lock one away alone forever,and and every other prisoner in that prison is aware of what his life is like on a daily basis,and it just MIGHT make some of them think about the consequences if they don't change their lives.
Then again,that is a lot of "mights" strung together,and one sure thing is if you execute a prisoner,you don't have to spend even one thin dime on him from that moment forward. No guards have to be paid to babysit him,no food,no medical care,no haircuts,no electricity for lights or heat,no nothing but a plot in the dirt. There is a lot to be said for that.
BTW,even though I see the officer's request for the man to give up the AR TEMPORARILY during the traffic stop to be VERY reasonable,I do have a good friend who tried to commit suicide with his 30/30 carbine,and flinched as he pulled the trigger. He didn't die,but he sure did destroy his shoulder. The local cops seized the rifle for evidence,of course. Which is normal and expected.
What WASN'T normal and expected is that it took him a couple of years to get the Chief of Police to return his rifle to him. The excuse given was "he was holding it as evidence in a future potential trial",but he was also seen deer hunting with it.
Still,when a lone cop stops you,sees something like a CAR-15 on your truck seat,and asks you to hand the weapon over/push it away out of reach,etc,etc,etc,that is a discussion you are NOT going to win by the side of the road and you are a fool to try. If there is any argument you want to make about it,the time and the place is in a courtroom later on.
After all,the worse thing that CAN happen if you do NOT agree to give it up IS what is going to happen if you refuse because the cops and everyone else will automatically assume you had evil intent on your mind at the time the request was made,or you would have handed it over.
I think the technical legal term for that is "Eat UP with the dumbass!"
AND......,NONE of this applies to anything related to the Lt's case. As has been mentioned already,the Windsor,Va Chief of Police has already fired the patrol officer who sprayed the Lt. If THAT doesn't tell you something,you just ain't listening. Chances are good this wasn't his first Rodeo with citizen complaints about unjustified use of force.