Confederate States of America and the Legal Right To Secede

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The Confederate States of America — commonly referred to as the Confederacy — was an unrecognized republic in North America that existed from 1861 to 1865. Many historians have said their secession from the United States was an illegal act of war, but others say the right was clearly stated in the U.S. Constitution.

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We all suffered through Clinton.
We all stayed stoic with Imam Obama and his love for Iran.
When is enough enough?
Now we have this mentally disabled Biden?
Good God people! We got to go on our own.
The people supposedly 'leading' us are freaking insane.
We have past the point of 'tolerating' this increasing craziness.
Let the retarded 'Liberals' take care of themselves.
And the normal people will look after their own.

[libertybele]

We all suffered through Clinton.
We all stayed stoic with Imam Obama and his love for Iran.
When is enough enough?
Now we have this mentally disabled Biden?
Good God people! We got to go on our own.
The people supposedly 'leading' us are freaking insane.
We have past the point of 'tolerating' this increasing craziness.
Let the retarded 'Liberals' take care of themselves.
And the normal people will look after their own.

You are absolutely correct.  When is enough, enough?

We can't continue on this course and continue to entertain the notion that somehow the GOP will win seats in '22. That thinking is absurd. 

Continuing on the same course and expecting a different result is nothing short of bat crap craziness.

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You are absolutely correct.  When is enough, enough?

We can't continue on this course and continue to entertain the notion that somehow the GOP will win seats in '22. That thinking is absurd. 

Continuing on the same course and expecting a different result is nothing short of bat crap craziness.

You know, the weirdest part of this scenario is that the "Liberals" would be crazy angry at the thought of a free State.
Their obsession is all about control, complete control. The very idea that Texas and Florida would break away from their iron grip, it drives them insane. Liberals are not worried about their own lives or how 'they' live. Liberals are focused on what YOU do, and how YOU live.

The idea of freedom drives them crazy. If a Liberal cannot control you, then they will kill you. That's just how their brain works.

[libertybele]

You know, the weirdest part of this scenario is that the "Liberals" would be crazy angry at the thought of a free State.
Their obsession is all about control, complete control. The very idea that Texas and Florida would break away from their iron grip, it drives them insane. Liberals are not worried about their own lives or how 'they' live. Liberals are focused on what YOU do, and how YOU live.

The idea of freedom drives them crazy. If a Liberal cannot control you, then they will kill you. That's just how their brain works.

Yes.  It's all about controlling you so that they benefit.

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Why Liberals are so obsessed with Blacks and Hispanics.
It has nothing to do with ethnicity.
It is because in their way of thinking, their KKK snow white brains makes them 'superior' to them.
Liberals like Black and Hispanics only because they feel like they 'control' them.
And to a Liberal, control of others is what life is all about to them.

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The Confederate States of America — commonly referred to as the Confederacy — was an unrecognized republic in North America that existed from 1861 to 1865. Many historians have said their secession from the United States was an illegal act of war, but others say the right was clearly stated in the U.S. Constitution.

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https://www.historyonthenet.com/confederate-states-america-2

Well, it was indeed recognized by those who supported it, right up to organizing a government and a military, issuing money, and so forth.

I guess you meant it was not recognized by the US or other countries.

Who cares whether some historians declare it was illegal anyway?  It was all about being free to choose by states which had their states rights abrogated and militarily threatened by the federal government, which was created to serve the states, not to dominate them.

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Many historians? have said their secession from the United States was an illegal act of war, but others say the right was clearly stated in the U.S. Constitution.

The only illegal act of war came from the North. There is nothing 'illegal' about secession. And it is certainly not any kind of "act of war". The union of States is voluntary by agreement. It is not mandatory.

In my opinion, the Union of States has become superfluous and outdated. I prefer to LIVE FREE, without some gay socialist wacko Liberal telling me what I can and cannot do. We have to break free from the insanity.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Many historians? have said their secession from the United States was an illegal act of war, but others say the right was clearly stated in the U.S. Constitution.

The only illegal act of war came from the North. There is nothing 'illegal' about secession. And it is certainly not any kind of "act of war". The union of States is voluntary by agreement. It is not mandatory.

In my opinion, the Union of States has become superfluous and outdated. I prefer to LIVE FREE, without some gay socialist wacko Liberal telling me what I can and cannot do. We have to break free from the insanity.

[Sled Dog]

Too bad the Constitution itself bans rebellion, isn't it?

It's also illegal for people to fire cannons at US military facilities, to pass laws divorcing citizens from the protections of the Constitution, and for states to form armies and make treaties with foreign governments.

But people who refuse to accept reality are going to listen to the people making money off whatever cult it is those reality-deniers (hahahahaha) want to follow with their emotions.

We see it with the Earth Worshippers.

We see it with the Apollo-Hoaxer clowns.

We see it with the Flat Earthers and the Crop Circle weirdos.

And we see it with the Secessionist gangsters who simply can't accept what the Constitution itself says about the matter.

Unlike others, I took an oath to protect the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic.  So I actually read the Constitution and studied the history of the United States.   Thanks to the Rodents atavistic need to own slaves, something they still pursue today, they illegally started a civil war in a disgusting effort to protect that institution, and the secessionists today, who allegedly oppose what the Rodents stand for, are repeating the same failed arguments the Rodents used 160 years ago.

Gotta ask why that is.

[Smokin Joe]

You are absolutely correct.  When is enough, enough?

We can't continue on this course and continue to entertain the notion that somehow the GOP will win seats in '22. That thinking is absurd. 

Continuing on the same course and expecting a different result is nothing short of bat crap craziness.

How many of these fit? (Charges against the King: substitute the federal Government for the Monarch).

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.