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Senate to vote on $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief bill this week
By Jordain Carney - 03/01/21 03:45 PM EST


The Senate will vote this week on a sweeping $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief bill, as Democrats try to get the legislation signed into law before federal unemployment benefits expire.

"The Senate will take up the American Rescue Plan this week. I expect a hardy debate and some late nights, but the American people sent us here with a job to do, to help the country through this moment of extraordinary challenge," Senate Majority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) said from the Senate floor.

The House passed the bill early Saturday morning, sending it to the Senate.


The Senate is expected to make changes to the bill, including stripping out language increasing the minimum wage to $15 per hour after the Senate parliamentarian advised that it didn't comply with budget rules that govern what can be included in the coronavirus bill.

The Senate will also have to go through a marathon voting session known as vote-a-rama, where any senator who wants to force an amendment vote will be able to do so. Senators are mulling potential changes to the bill, including changing the phase-out structure of a third round of stimulus checks.

Republicans were able to successfully get amendments added to last month's budget resolution, which teed up the coronavirus bill. But those changes were non-binding, while any successful effort by Senate Republicans will change the House-passed coronavirus bill.

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Re: Senate to vote on $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief bill this week
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2021, 12:56:02 am »
We all know they don't want to give all the 'momentum' back to the Democrats by voting against this $1.9 Trillion Democrat Slush Fund.

What to do...what to do... ???

Think I'll go and ask @roamer_1         :silly:
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Re: Senate to vote on $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief bill this week
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2021, 01:05:38 am »
The GOP Senators need to vote against it.  Who cares if they ping pong it back and forth.  The GOP shouldn't vote in favor of anything that the DEMS want.  Make it as difficult for them as possible --  the DEMS declared this war on our Republic. Give them nothing.
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Re: Senate to vote on $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief bill this week
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2021, 01:15:41 am »
We all know they don't want to give all the 'momentum' back to the Democrats by voting against this $1.9 Trillion Democrat Slush Fund.

What to do...what to do... ???

Think I'll go and ask @roamer_1         :silly:

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NOW you're worried about a couple trillion bucks?  :silly:

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Re: Senate to vote on $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief bill this week
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2021, 01:39:13 am »
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NOW you're worried about a couple trillion bucks?  :silly:

LOL!

No, sir!  At this point, it isn't real money.

But what about my original point...voting against it automatically reinforces the perception that the GOP doesn't give a shit about the little average guy....going into the all important mid-terms.

For the most part, we can deal with Pres. Biden's ruling by Executive Order.   Just like he's dealing with Pres. Trump's.  Stroke of a pen....gone!

What we can't have is a Democrat Majority come 2023.

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Re: Senate to vote on $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief bill this week
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2021, 01:45:55 am »
LOL!

No, sir!  At this point, it isn't real money.

But what about my original point...voting against it automatically reinforces the perception that the GOP doesn't give a shit about the little average guy....going into the all important mid-terms.

For the most part, we can deal with Pres. Biden's ruling by Executive Order.   Just like he's dealing with Pres. Trump's.  Stroke of a pen....gone!

What we can't have is a Democrat Majority come 2023.

Sign it.  I would like an Nikon 85mm 1.4 G     Keep the economy going strong!!   @roamer_1

The first thing, @DCPatriot , is to admit you have a problem. Then comes the credit-card-cutting ceremony... Sober as a judge, hoping you can get the electricity turned back on by next month.

NO, DAMMIT. We ain't got the damn money!!!

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Re: Senate to vote on $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief bill this week
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2021, 01:55:18 am »
LOL!

No, sir!  At this point, it isn't real money.

But what about my original point...voting against it automatically reinforces the perception that the GOP doesn't give a shit about the little average guy....going into the all important mid-terms.

For the most part, we can deal with Pres. Biden's ruling by Executive Order.   Just like he's dealing with Pres. Trump's.  Stroke of a pen....gone!

What we can't have is a Democrat Majority come 2023.

Sign it.  I would like an Nikon 85mm 1.4 G     Keep the economy going strong!!   @roamer_1

IF  some serious changes aren't made to the ballot box and amnesty, we WILL continue to have a DEM majority. Guarantee it!
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Re: Senate to vote on $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief bill this week
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2021, 01:57:12 am »
The first thing, @DCPatriot , is to admit you have a problem. Then comes the credit-card-cutting ceremony... Sober as a judge, hoping you can get the electricity turned back on by next month.

NO, DAMMIT. We ain't got the damn money!!!

Nope, we don't have the dang money, but right now that's the least of our problems; Biden, Harris, Middle East, oil dependency, going green, amnesty, attack on 2A, etc.
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Re: Senate to vote on $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief bill this week
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2021, 02:01:49 am »
Nope, we don't have the dang money, but right now that's the least of our problems; Biden, Harris, Middle East, oil dependency, going green, amnesty, attack on 2A, etc.

It's the money. The money makes all the rest go round. It is, and always will be, the worst of our problems.

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Re: Senate to vote on $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief bill this week
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2021, 02:50:39 am »
Senate Democrats negotiating changes to coronavirus bill

Senate Democrats are discussing potential changes to a $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief package, saying they want to further target the House-passed legislation.

A group of Democrats met with President Biden on Monday to talk about the path forward on the legislation, which is expected to come to a vote on the Senate floor in a matter of days.

"We talked about the package and we talked about some ... targeting, targeting dollars," said Sen. Jon Tester (D-Mont.).
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Democrats have no room for error as they try to pass the bill in the Senate.

Because no Republicans are expected to support the coronavirus-relief legislation, that means Biden will need all 50 members of the Senate Democratic caucus to support the legislation in order to get it through the chamber.

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Re: Senate to vote on $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief bill this week
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2021, 07:02:32 am »
Somebody was extremely critical of Trump's spending and is still glad to give democrats a pass on any amount of fiscal responsibilities.  'Real Conservatives' only reserve circular firing squads for Conservatives, and give democrats a pass, so democrats can rule with ease.  It worked last election, didn't it!
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A 'Real conservative' attacks Conservatives, and give democrats a pass, and now we have seen just how that works.
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Re: Senate to vote on $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief bill this week
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2021, 07:28:03 am »
Somebody was extremely critical of Trump's spending and is still glad to give democrats a pass on any amount of fiscal responsibilities.  'Real Conservatives' only reserve circular firing squads for Conservatives, and give democrats a pass, so democrats can rule with ease.  It worked last election, didn't it!
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A 'Real conservative' attacks Conservatives, and give democrats a pass, and now we have seen just how that works.

Just what part of 'NO DAMMIT, we ain't got the damn money!' didn't you understand?

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Re: Senate to vote on $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief bill this week
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2021, 05:19:27 pm »
You obviously mean Republicans don't have the money, democrats however, it doesn't matter what they do, so they can spend all they want.  The 'game' is understood.
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« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2021, 05:43:58 pm »
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"Economic Stimulus" anyone?  "Shovel-ready jobs" for needed infrastructure??

$687 BILLION which was serious $$$ back in 2009.

They restocked the retirement/pension funds and union coffers who paid somebody somewhere "10 Percent for the Big Guy!"

Then the SOB had the temerity...the tenacity to laugh about its obvious failure on national television   

Now, twelve years later, the sum has tripled.   So yeah, it's 'Monopoly Money'.
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Re: Senate to vote on $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief bill this week
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2021, 08:14:48 pm »
You obviously mean Republicans don't have the money, democrats however, it doesn't matter what they do, so they can spend all they want.  The 'game' is understood.

Get out your crayons and draw another picture.

I meant exactly what I said. We ain't got the damn money. I have never wavered a single damn moment on that for anyone.

But would I expect Republicans to save trillions instead of spending tens of trillions? Not any more (spit). There ain't a dime's worth of difference between Republicans and Democrats.

The difference is that you defend it. I will not.

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Re: Senate to vote on $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief bill this week
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2021, 08:21:10 pm »
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"Economic Stimulus" anyone?  "Shovel-ready jobs" for needed infrastructure??

$687 BILLION which was serious $$$ back in 2009.

They restocked the retirement/pension funds and union coffers who paid somebody somewhere "10 Percent for the Big Guy!"

Then the SOB had the temerity...the tenacity to laugh about its obvious failure on national television   

Now, twelve years later, the sum has tripled.   So yeah, it's 'Monopoly Money'.

You didn't see me trying to justify spending under ANY circumstance. I was TEA long before there was TEA. There is NO number other than negatives that I will vote for. PERIOD.

And I have said exactly that consistently. No, it is NOT monopoly money. It is the difference between survival and destruction. And you ain't helping, @DCPatriot ... And neither did Tumpy. But at least you're honest about it.

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Re: Senate to vote on $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief bill this week
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2021, 08:49:08 pm »
If I get the $1,400, I will give it back to them, plus more, when I pay income tax.
I have a severe problem - before covid - I went to casinos and a number of times, won so much I had to report it and pay income tax on it.  Now, I can't go to casinos, so my income amount has dropped.  It is not my fault casinos had to close so it seems to me, the government should pay me the approximate amount I used to win since it was not my fault, right?

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Re: Senate to vote on $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief bill this week
« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2021, 09:33:16 pm »
If I get the $1,400, I will give it back to them, plus more, when I pay income tax.
I have a severe problem - before covid - I went to casinos and a number of times, won so much I had to report it and pay income tax on it.  Now, I can't go to casinos, so my income amount has dropped.  It is not my fault casinos had to close so it seems to me, the government should pay me the approximate amount I used to win since it was not my fault, right?

If only that were the case @Victoria33  :laugh:     You are fortunate to have some luck at the casinos.  Hubby and I used to take just $20.00  each with us on the casino ships (years ago) and we would play till that $20.00 ran out  -- we never came home with $20.00 -- empty pockets.    At least we didn't lose a lot. We had a nice dinner on the water and gambled a bit for some fun.  That worked out fine for us.       
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Re: Senate to vote on $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief bill this week
« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2021, 09:42:13 pm »
It's the money. The money makes all the rest go round. It is, and always will be, the worst of our problems.

Well the way I see it, the gov't starts confiscating our guns and incarcerating people for lack of compliance and an all out civil war or revolution erupts -- the national debt is the least of our worries.

Harris and Biden are bent on gun control, granting amnesty, climate change restrictions, etc...and you think our debt is going to matter to them one iota?  They don't care how much debt they put us under.  Again, once they implement those things, our debt is the least of our concerns -- us city folk will have bigger problems just trying to survive under their thumb.
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Re: Senate to vote on $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief bill this week
« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2021, 10:41:43 pm »
Well the way I see it, the gov't starts confiscating our guns and incarcerating people for lack of compliance and an all out civil war or revolution erupts -- the national debt is the least of our worries.


If they didn't have the money they could not afford to. The government big enough to 'help' you is big enough to enslave you. AND THEY WILL. Every time.

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Harris and Biden are bent on gun control, granting amnesty, climate change restrictions, etc...and you think our debt is going to matter to them one iota?  They don't care how much debt they put us under.  Again, once they implement those things, our debt is the least of our concerns -- us city folk will have bigger problems just trying to survive under their thumb.

It doesn't matter what they're bent on. What matters is what stands in their way. Which currently is next to nothing. Even so... It is but a symptom. The reason it can is because it is big enough to. And the reason it is big enough to is because of money. All the way across the board it starts with putting them back in the fiscal box. The rest will certainly follow.

And libertarianism and fiscal conservatism are the two things that are NEVER defended. There is a reason for that.

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Re: Senate to vote on $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief bill this week
« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2021, 06:21:20 am »
Trump resorted a great deal of America that Obama was bringing down.  Obama spent Trillions and damaged the nation, just as Biden is furthering the desolation spending to Americas detriment.  Trump was restoring the nation and reviving it, Obama and Biden are killing America, and doing it with reckless spending making bad situations worse.
You ignore Trump was helping America recover, while Obama and Biden play Dr. Kevorkian.  You think the good doctor spends too much, so never him, but murderous doctors get a pass on what they do, even their insane spending, the problem is a mental one.  Get help!
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« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2021, 07:15:49 am »
Trump resorted a great deal of America that Obama was bringing down.  Obama spent Trillions and damaged the nation, just as Biden is furthering the desolation spending to Americas detriment.  Trump was restoring the nation and reviving it, Obama and Biden are killing America, and doing it with reckless spending making bad situations worse.
You ignore Trump was helping America recover, while Obama and Biden play Dr. Kevorkian.  You think the good doctor spends too much, so never him, but murderous doctors get a pass on what they do, even their insane spending, the problem is a mental one.  Get help!
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Utter idiocy!

Tumpy spent at TWICE the rate of Obummer. And you got *NOTHING*. Nothing is fixed, nothing is changed. Nothing. All gone! Poof, no eyebrows! More money spent than in the entire history of mankind, without a damn thing to show for it. 'Good doctor', my ass.

Y'all are gonna have to do a helluva lot better than this messianic fanboi crap if anything is going to get fixed. With the bar so dang low as yourn this country is DOOMED.

And dems get no pass from me. I know what they are. But what matters is that there is opposition against them. Something raised up to stop them. And that sure as hell wasn't Tumpy. Not by a long, long shot. Four years of giggling and throwing poo. Nothing changed.

That isn't giving Dems a pass. that's just not giving Pubs a pass for doing nothing *AT ALL* to oppose them - To include Tumpy the Clown.

You got nothing. The ball went left. And it cost twenty friggin trillion dollars. That's LOSING, bigtime. And still you cling to your rah, rah nonsense, gleefully ready to throw more monkey-sh*t instead of taking the loss and finding something real to do.

What an utter waste of time.

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Re: Senate to vote on $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief bill this week
« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2021, 08:42:16 pm »
When you opposed Trump,you helped give the election to Biden and the democrats.  Denying you did is a lie, and now what happens is all on you and those that aided the democrats to win. IT IS ALL ON YOU AND THOSE THAT FOLLOW YOUR PIED PIPERING.  YOU BOUGHT IT, YOU OWN IT!
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Re: Senate to vote on $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief bill this week
« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2021, 09:05:57 pm »
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« Reply #24 on: March 04, 2021, 09:08:48 pm »
When you opposed Trump,you helped give the election to Biden and the democrats.  Denying you did is a lie, and now what happens is all on you and those that aided the democrats to win. IT IS ALL ON YOU AND THOSE THAT FOLLOW YOUR PIED PIPERING.  YOU BOUGHT IT, YOU OWN IT!

Bullshit. There ain't no damn way I will support twenty friggin trillion dollars... MASSIVE friggin debt coming from the so-called RIGHT... And folks like you, with your shallow thinking and lack of standards are exactly why the Republicans can't fight a damn thing. Because you let em. You'll give em passes till we're all in chains.

None for me thanks. The term 'Conservative' comes with a set of principles. Throw away those principles and it ain't conservatism anymore. So a hard pass on your big spending NYC liberal. And a hard pass on the Republicans that helped him spend it.

You voted for it. YOU own it. I walked off years ago and don't have a damn thing to do with any of it, from any which way.

You want my vote, try acting like a Conservative. It ain't hard. Everyone knows what is required to get conservative votes.

Because what you're selling I sure as hell ain't buying, and the customer is always right. But then, you would prefer to coerce my vote than give me something to vote *FOR*, which makes y'all no damn different than the democrats. So go point your gun at somebody else's head. I won't play.

I will continue to defend conservatism. And I will do it right here, and will not be swayed... Certainly not by one with so puerile and shallow a thought process as yours.