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Re: Lindsey Graham comes to Liz Cheney's defense
« Reply #50 on: February 03, 2021, 06:39:44 pm »
Quote from: sneakypete on February 03, 2021, 06:36:31 pm
@Cyber Liberty

True dat. There IS nothing to debate. The Dims stole the election,and likely the future of this nation. Those are the FACTS.

Sooooo,that leaves us with only one issue to debate,which is "Is globalism an improvement over nationalism?"

If you want to live as free as possible and be the "captain of your own ship",you have to vote FOR nationalism.

If you want to be a cog in the Global Machine of Soros and Company,you vote AGAINST nationalism.

It really is as simple as that.

The people currently in charge in DC and in most state houses are NOT our true "representatives". They are,AT BEST,merely employees of either the Chinese on the European banking families.

@sneakypete  There is nothing productive about calling most Briefers "Lickspittle Trump supporters."  We tolerate this non-stop stream of bullshit on a daily basis, because it amuses people.  It's like having a cat toy.
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Re: Lindsey Graham comes to Liz Cheney's defense
« Reply #51 on: February 03, 2021, 06:40:40 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on February 03, 2021, 03:22:40 pm
Agree, and I removed my last insult to that misguided Briefer.  I do however, want to remind all of Reagan's 11th commandment around tratement of fellow Republicans. While we might have internal disagreements within the party, what the likes of what Cheney and Romney did make them down right traitors in my opinion. 

And in Cheney's case, I guarntee there will not be calm within the party until this nepotistic bitch given the heave hoe form party leadership.  THEN rely on the good people of Wyoming to throw her out to the curb.

@catfish1957

Neither statement in bold is just YOUR opinion. It is also MY opinion,as well as the opinion of the vast majority of the people I know.

What is that expression that teeny-bopper leftists love to chant? Isn't it "speak truth to power!" That is EXACTLY what we are doing,and no one has any right to try to stop us from speaking the truth as we see it.
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Re: Lindsey Graham comes to Liz Cheney's defense
« Reply #52 on: February 03, 2021, 06:45:25 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on February 03, 2021, 06:28:52 pm
Trump's January 6 speech may have stoked things

For the 63rd time, can you please cite the words of Trump's speech that incited violence and insurrection?


Quote from: Jazzhead on February 03, 2021, 06:28:52 pm
Then, while Capitol was under assault,  he was conspicuous by his silence.

Uh, no.  While the Capitol was under assault, Trump was still speaking to the crowd at the Ellipse, telling them to protest "peacefully".  But then you already knew that before deciding to lie about it.  Again.


Quote from: Jazzhead on February 03, 2021, 06:28:52 pm
Why do continue to defend the indefensible?

Why do you continue to offer the same false claims without a shred of evidence to back them up?
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Re: Lindsey Graham comes to Liz Cheney's defense
« Reply #53 on: February 03, 2021, 07:19:03 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on February 03, 2021, 06:45:25 pm
For the 63rd time, can you please cite the words of Trump's speech that incited violence and insurrection?


Uh, no.  While the Capitol was under assault, Trump was still speaking to the crowd at the Ellipse, telling them to protest "peacefully".  But then you already knew that before deciding to lie about it.  Again.


Why do you continue to offer the same false claims without a shred of evidence to back them up?

Jazzy has been told a 1000 times that Trump's speech specifically told the crowd to peacefully march.  (Check transcript), and the fact that even the WaPo reported the intrusion event was premeditated by a small group, way even and before Trump;s speech.  Talking to him is like talking to a brick wall.  Exactly why he is the only Briefer I have on "Ignore"
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Re: Lindsey Graham comes to Liz Cheney's defense
« Reply #54 on: February 03, 2021, 07:33:16 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on February 03, 2021, 07:19:03 pm
Jazzy has been told a 1000 times that Trump's speech specifically told the crowd to peacefully march.  (Check transcript), and the fact that even the WaPo reported the intrusion event was premeditated by a small group, way even and before Trump;s speech.  Talking to him is like talking to a brick wall.  Exactly why he is the only Briefer I have on "Ignore"

You and a lot of other Briefers.  I quote his especially egregious lies and insults to give all y'all a chance to laugh at them.  I'm a "Curator of Falsehoods."

I'm a Bad'un.  88devil
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Re: Lindsey Graham comes to Liz Cheney's defense
« Reply #55 on: February 03, 2021, 07:43:19 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on February 03, 2021, 07:19:03 pm
Jazzy has been told a 1000 times that Trump's speech specifically told the crowd to peacefully march.  (Check transcript), and the fact that even the WaPo reported the intrusion event was premeditated by a small group, way even and before Trump;s speech.  Talking to him is like talking to a brick wall.  Exactly why he is the only Briefer I have on "Ignore"
It is quite noticeable where he stands.  Biden kills over 10,000 pipeline jobs.  Jazzhead chimes in to lie about Trump.  Biden jacks up price of insulin and epi-pens.  Jazzhead chimes in to lie about Trump.  Biden ends treatment programs for narcotics addition.  Jazzhead chimes in to lie about Trump.  Biden re-opens detention centers for immigrant children.  Jazzhead chimes in to lie about Trump.  Biden moves towards ending gas industry upon which his State depends.  Jazzhead chimes in to lie about Trump.  Biden mishandles immunization process already in place.  Jazzhead chimes in to lie about Trump.  Biden ends Mexico City policy, initiating US taxpayer-funded abortions in other countries.  Jazzhead chimes in to lie about Trump.  Biden grants eligibility for illegal aliens to collect healthcare subsidies from taxpayers.  Jazzhead chimes in to lie about Trump.  Biden reallocates money from FEMA to pay for an extended national guard presence in Washington.  Jazzhead chimes in to lie about Trump.  Biden orders illegal aliens to be included in census number for the purpose of Congressional apportionment (in violation of the US Constitution).  Jazzhead chimes in to lie about Trump.
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Re: Lindsey Graham comes to Liz Cheney's defense
« Reply #56 on: February 03, 2021, 07:48:22 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on February 03, 2021, 07:33:16 pm
  I'm a "Curator of Falsehoods."

I'm a Bad'un.  88devil

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Re: Lindsey Graham comes to Liz Cheney's defense
« Reply #57 on: February 03, 2021, 07:52:58 pm »
Quote from: sneakypete on February 03, 2021, 06:30:29 pm
@Jazzhead

It's good to see you come out of the closet and admit that Trump was a threat to the staus-quo of insider corruption and treason,and that you consider trying to end all that is the equivalent of an insurrection.

Only a  globalist would consider your statement to be true.

As for me,I am proud to say that I am a Nationalist.

I am referring to Trump's stolen-election fakery and its denoument at the hands of a violent mob on January 6.    His policies weren't what I objected to.   His demogogic behavior was.
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Re: Lindsey Graham comes to Liz Cheney's defense
« Reply #58 on: February 03, 2021, 07:53:27 pm »
Quote from: Wingnut on February 03, 2021, 07:48:22 pm
"The Dancing Destroyer", "The King of Sting", "The Count of the Mount", and "The Master of Disaster", the one, the only......

Including the Razzy of Jazzy....
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Re: Lindsey Graham comes to Liz Cheney's defense
« Reply #59 on: February 03, 2021, 07:55:04 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on February 03, 2021, 07:53:27 pm
Including the Razzy of Jazzy....

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Re: Lindsey Graham comes to Liz Cheney's defense
« Reply #60 on: February 03, 2021, 07:56:26 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on February 03, 2021, 06:39:44 pm
@sneakypete  There is nothing productive about calling most Briefers "Lickspittle Trump supporters."  We tolerate this non-stop stream of bullshit on a daily basis, because it amuses people.  It's like having a cat toy.

I spoke of Cheney being primaried by some Trump lickspittle.   That is far from calling most members of this forum lickspittles. 
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Re: Lindsey Graham comes to Liz Cheney's defense
« Reply #61 on: February 03, 2021, 07:58:19 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on February 03, 2021, 07:52:58 pm
I am referring to Trump's stolen-election fakery and its denoument at the hands of a violent mob on January 6.

Are you referring to the mob that was already in the Capitol when Trump was still speaking several blocks away?  Or are you referring to the audience at the Ellipse listening to Trump's instruction to remain peaceful?


Quote from: Jazzhead on February 03, 2021, 07:52:58 pm
His policies weren't what I objected to.   His demogogic behavior was.

For the 64th time, can you please cite the words of Trump's speech that incited violence and insurrection?


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Re: Lindsey Graham comes to Liz Cheney's defense
« Reply #62 on: February 03, 2021, 08:37:17 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on February 03, 2021, 07:52:58 pm
I am referring to Trump's stolen-election fakery and its denoument at the hands of a violent mob on January 6.   

This claim has been proven incorrect


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Re: Lindsey Graham comes to Liz Cheney's defense
« Reply #63 on: February 03, 2021, 08:38:44 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on February 03, 2021, 03:07:20 pm
Cheney has every right to voice her opinion. The question is, is her opinion valid or is her opinion because she doesn't like Trump because he was not part of the establishment like her father?

Actually, @libertybele  Cheney has the responsibility to vote as the representative of her district --- especially in a matter as important as impeaching the President her district overwhelming voted for and supports. 

She wasn't sent there to vote as a representative of her father or Shrub or the military-industrial complex.
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Re: Lindsey Graham comes to Liz Cheney's defense
« Reply #64 on: February 03, 2021, 08:53:06 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on February 03, 2021, 07:58:19 pm
Are you referring to the mob that was already in the Capitol when Trump was still speaking several blocks away?  Or are you referring to the audience at the Ellipse listening to Trump's instruction to remain peaceful?


For the 64th time, can you please cite the words of Trump's speech that incited violence and insurrection?

You remain hung up on one speech.  Trump's perfidy goes far beyond that one speech.   "Stand by, Proud Boys",  for instance.   Refusing to call off the dogs, for another.
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Re: Lindsey Graham comes to Liz Cheney's defense
« Reply #65 on: February 03, 2021, 09:09:44 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on February 03, 2021, 08:53:06 pm
You remain hung up on one speech.

No, I remain hung up on being truthful.  Remember, YOU are the one who has stated repeatedly that Trump's Jan 6 speech incited violence and insurrection.  Which is why I keep asking about it.  So for the 65th time, can you please cite the words from that speech that incited violence and insurrection?
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Re: Lindsey Graham comes to Liz Cheney's defense
« Reply #66 on: February 03, 2021, 09:29:49 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on February 02, 2021, 05:58:29 pm
Liz Cheney is indeed a strong conservative.   That she wants Trump to answer for his disgraceful conduct in the weeks leading up to January 6 riot is just icing on the cake.   I think I will contribute to her reelection campaign,  especially if she is primaried by some Trump lickspittle.
Liz took a steaming shit on Wyoming. She allegedly represents Wyoming in DC, not the other way around. If Wyoming liked what Trump was doing, perhaps she should represent her own constituents instead of doing her own thing to burrow into the Swamp. She will need voter fraud next time around.
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Re: Lindsey Graham comes to Liz Cheney's defense
« Reply #67 on: February 03, 2021, 09:40:47 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on February 03, 2021, 09:09:44 pm
No, I remain hung up on being truthful.

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Re: Lindsey Graham comes to Liz Cheney's defense
« Reply #68 on: February 03, 2021, 09:48:22 pm »
Here is a link to President Trump's speech on January 6.  I read it and did not find that he incited a riot, suggested rioting or promoted violence.

Also I have taken an excerpt from his speech that mentions "peaceful" and "patriotic".  Nowhere in this speech did I find any words suggesting rioting, violence or attacking -- those are the words and implications from the MSM and Cheney chose NOT to support the right to a fair election nor the right to a peaceful and patriotic march. 

Donald Trump: (18:16)
We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated. I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard. Today we will see whether Republicans stand strong for integrity of our elections, but whether or not they stand strong for our country, our country.

https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-speech-save-america-rally-transcript-january-6
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Re: Lindsey Graham comes to Liz Cheney's defense
« Reply #69 on: February 03, 2021, 10:42:31 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on February 03, 2021, 09:09:44 pm
No, I remain hung up on being truthful.  Remember, YOU are the one who has stated repeatedly that Trump's Jan 6 speech incited violence and insurrection.  Which is why I keep asking about it.  So for the 65th time, can you please cite the words from that speech that incited violence and insurrection?

Waiting patiently as well for a response as I posted a link to the transcript of Trump's entire speech. 

Secondly, as has been mentioned by a couple of Briefers, Cheney has an obligation to her constituents, not to her political bias.
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Re: Lindsey Graham comes to Liz Cheney's defense
« Reply #70 on: February 03, 2021, 10:45:40 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on February 03, 2021, 07:52:58 pm
I am referring to Trump's stolen-election fakery and its denoument at the hands of a violent mob on January 6.    His policies weren't what I objected to.   His demogogic behavior was.

Assuming for once you aren't lying, you must be delighted to have a smooth talking communist as President,  even though you had to cheat to get him in.
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Re: Lindsey Graham comes to Liz Cheney's defense
« Reply #71 on: February 03, 2021, 10:49:14 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on February 03, 2021, 07:56:26 pm
I spoke of Cheney being primaried by some Trump lickspittle.   That is far from calling most members of this forum lickspittles.

Bullshit is in the eye of the beholder.  You called anybody who supports Trumps ideas "lickspittles."  I think you believed it is fine to do that, so consider this your warning.

Don't do it again, @Jazzhead .
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Re: Lindsey Graham comes to Liz Cheney's defense
« Reply #72 on: February 03, 2021, 10:50:55 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on February 03, 2021, 07:43:19 pm
It is quite noticeable where he stands.  Biden kills over 10,000 pipeline jobs.  Jazzhead chimes in to lie about Trump.  Biden jacks up price of insulin and epi-pens.  Jazzhead chimes in to lie about Trump.  Biden ends treatment programs for narcotics addition.  Jazzhead chimes in to lie about Trump.  Biden re-opens detention centers for immigrant children.  Jazzhead chimes in to lie about Trump.  Biden moves towards ending gas industry upon which his State depends.  Jazzhead chimes in to lie about Trump.  Biden mishandles immunization process already in place.  Jazzhead chimes in to lie about Trump.  Biden ends Mexico City policy, initiating US taxpayer-funded abortions in other countries.  Jazzhead chimes in to lie about Trump.  Biden grants eligibility for illegal aliens to collect healthcare subsidies from taxpayers.  Jazzhead chimes in to lie about Trump.  Biden reallocates money from FEMA to pay for an extended national guard presence in Washington.  Jazzhead chimes in to lie about Trump.  Biden orders illegal aliens to be included in census number for the purpose of Congressional apportionment (in violation of the US Constitution).  Jazzhead chimes in to lie about Trump.

Huh.  Think there might be a pattern somewhere.
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Re: Lindsey Graham comes to Liz Cheney's defense
« Reply #73 on: February 03, 2021, 10:57:35 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on February 03, 2021, 10:49:14 pm
Bullshit is in the eye of the beholder.  You called anybody who supports Trumps ideas "lickspittles."  I think you believed it is fine to do that, so consider this your warning.

Don't do it again, @Jazzhead .

 *hmmmm* Seems like I've heard that somewhere before.  Maybe just my imagination.
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Re: Lindsey Graham comes to Liz Cheney's defense
« Reply #74 on: February 03, 2021, 11:16:46 pm »
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I am referring to Trump's stolen-election fakery and its denoument at the hands of a violent mob on January 6. 

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C mon people,you know very well as leftist has to do the lockstep and be a convincing liar, its his basics 101.  This is so easy, ignore the evidence, the witnesses, and even the videos of massive voter fraud, just believe the unswerving lieing lock-stepping mouth telling you it isn't so.

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