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Re: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate
« Reply #200 on: January 26, 2021, 03:09:29 pm »
Of course he's 'capitulating'. Why would he try to obstruct an agenda he is basically in accord with?

What nonsense
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Re: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate
« Reply #201 on: January 26, 2021, 03:09:48 pm »
Saw last night (supposed) that Turtle is capitulating on the Fillibuster rule.

I didn't read what he said that way.  But then that was 12 hours ago and cocaine Mitch might of had an itch in his anal regions.
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Re: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate
« Reply #202 on: January 26, 2021, 03:12:31 pm »
Trump has disavowed any interest in creating a third party.

But only while threatening to primary the sellouts.  Think "art of the deal".   You haven't figured out his tactics by now?
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« Reply #203 on: January 26, 2021, 03:13:53 pm »
I didn't read what he said that way.  But then that was 12 hours ago and cocaine Mitch might of had an itch in his anal regions.

Have you looked at his "Power sharing" deal?  There's little doubt in my mind Mitch's piles are acting up.
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« Reply #204 on: January 26, 2021, 03:14:44 pm »
But only while threatening to primary the sellouts.  Think "art of the deal".   You haven't figured out his tactics by now?

I think a lot will hinge on who gets the upper hand going toward 2024.  If we see a Jeb, Kasich, type I am 90% sure MAGA will be organizing as a 3rd party in earnest.
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« Reply #205 on: January 26, 2021, 03:15:26 pm »
There's little doubt in my mind Mitch's piles are acting up.

Mitch is a pile (of excrement)
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Re: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate
« Reply #206 on: January 26, 2021, 03:16:48 pm »
Mitch is a pile (of excrement)

Indeed he is.

BTW I hear Trump has created the "Office of the Former President", a takeoff on Biden's "Office of the President Elect".
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Re: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate
« Reply #207 on: January 26, 2021, 03:20:46 pm »
You don't "educate" them - you form coalitions with them.  This attitude that other folks are stupid or venal and just need to be reeducated smacks of Marxism.  No,  other folks are just as smart and concerned about the nation as you - they just have different views.

Folks with different viewpoints can come together in a grand coalition forming an electoral majority.  That is what the GOP is supposed to be about.  Otherwise you and your faction will end up playing in a corner,  with no political power or influence.

Wrong, as usual... lunkhead.   There are plenty of voters out there that are disconnected from truths coming from conservative talk radio and internet sites that are not left-leaning.  I know one Dem that only hears her news from NPR.  She has NO CLUE what's been going on in America re: reality ....especially concerning the recent election theft.  And no, it's not Marxist to attempt to inform folks like her.  It's the Marxist way that has made her and kept her ignorant of truth and reality. 

Now I realize that you and your ilk would prefer to keep these folks ignorant so they'll keep voting for leftists.  My sentiments on that?   Eff you all.  You helped to create this FUBAR situation America is now in.   I hope you get what's coming to you.   Sincerely.
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Re: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate
« Reply #208 on: January 26, 2021, 03:23:24 pm »
I think a lot will hinge on who gets the upper hand going toward 2024.  If we see a Jeb, Kasich, type I am 90% sure MAGA will be organizing as a 3rd party in earnest.

I concur.
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« Reply #209 on: January 26, 2021, 03:49:31 pm »
I think a lot will hinge on who gets the upper hand going toward 2024.  If we see a Jeb, Kasich, type I am 90% sure MAGA will be organizing as a 3rd party in earnest.

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Re: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate
« Reply #210 on: January 26, 2021, 03:52:02 pm »
Mitch is a pile (of excrement)

@catfish1957

Why would you defame excrement like that? It expels poisons from your body as well as waste food,and it even provides fertilizer. You can even tell the general health of your digestive system by looking at it.

On the other hand,we have Mitch,who is useful for nothing unless you are Chinese and have money to spend buying traitors.
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Re: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate
« Reply #211 on: January 26, 2021, 04:06:55 pm »
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That photo further up the thread, is that what is referred to as the hills out in west Texas?  Someone told me the weather there is like San Diego, a constant comfortable environment.  And he said it was one of the prettiest places in America to live.

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« Reply #212 on: January 26, 2021, 04:42:16 pm »
I took the time to go through this thread, and I will add my two cents.

First, I voted for Ross Perot twice.  Why?  Because like many of you, I knew 30 years ago that something had to change drastically, and I was young enough, and NAIVE ENOUGH, to believe a 3rd party could rise up.  And what did we get?  An eccentric billionaire who withdrew from his campaign because of how the media treated his daughter halfway through his first campaign if memory serves.  Then he decided to plug back in and continue to run, but only after it was established that he was NOT dealing with a full deck.  19% of America voted for him because they felt the same way I did.  Bush lost and Clinton won. 

I voted 3rd party in a number of elections, but the movement, if you want to call it that, never grew.  So, without question, because of the way our voting system is setup, it is virtually impossible for a 3rd party candidate to win, and if he did, he would deal with two hostile parties, much like Trump did over the past two years.  Worse actually!  And no one tell me the Republicans supported Trump.  Had they done so, the 2020 election would have had a different outcome.

So, Trump is smart enough to know a 3rd party is a waste of time.  Remember, he likes to win.  Even if he runs and wins as a 3rd party candidate, he loses, for now both parties would want to impeach him first chance they got.  He would have no support in Congress.

And whether Trump runs again remains to be seen.  He will be four years older, and I believe once he is away from all the bullsh*t of Washington, UNWINDS, plays golf 3-5 times a week, he comes to realize his life is finite, and the bullsh*t associated with politics is just not worth it.  I do not see him running again.

BUT, that does not mean he is not involved.  I would love to see at a minimum his team taking on the battleground states, and working hard to get the legislatures to strengthen their laws regarding elections, and eliminate all the crap the Dems did to cheat and win in these states.  This is more important than anything over the next couple years.

Second, he defined the issues in 2016, and he resonated.  He failed to do that in 2020 in my humble opinion.  Taking the same message and talking about the past is not a way to winning anything.  He lost.  He lost to a man that did not campaign, had no ideas except for the small left fruitloops, and he lost!

So, again, as the Xiden(like that name) Administration continues to execute its left agenda, unemploying millions of Americans, making it difficult to live for millions, forcing millions back on welfare, flooding America with millions of illegal invading aliens, higher taxes, corporations resuming their exodus from the USA, the stage will be set again for Trump to unfold a platform that once again engages the American people.

My suggestions to dealing with RINOs and worthless politicians that are self serving:

TERM LIMITS   TERM LIMITS   TERM LIMITS

END GOLDEN PARACHUTE FOR CONGRESS, NO PENSIONS, SERVE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, AND LEAVE UPON
    COMPLETING TERM (Max 12 years)  Let's be honest, no such thing as a statesman today.  I do not know one!!!!

MANDATORY PHOTO ID NATIONALLY FOR ELECTIONS.  ABSENTEE VOTERS REQUIRE MULTIPLE IDS, MORE THAN
    IN PERSON TO CONTROL FRAUD


4  BUILD THE REPUBLICAN PARTY BACK TO A DESIRED ENTITY, AND NOT THE IMPOSSIBLE OF 3RD PARTY

5  RINO PREVENTION - HAVE ALL CANDIDATES COMPLETE A SURVEY TO DETERMINE IF THEY ARE CONSERVATIVE OR
    RINOS.  INDICATE WITH THE PRIMARY WHO IS A CERTIFIED CONSERVATIVE (similar to rating lawyers to be judges)
    Supporting TERM LIMITS is MANDATORY for Conservative Rating

6  FINISH THE DAMN WALL

7  ESTABLISH IMMIGRATION RULES TO LIVE BY, EXCLUDING ANY ILLEGAL INVADING ALIENS  END REFUGEE CRITERIA
    AT THE BORDER.  MUST HAPPEN IN APPLICANTS' HOME COUNTRY AT USA EMBASSY

Focus on these seven items, and the American people would turn out in overwhelming numbers.  They will be ready once more after Xiden has done his very best to destroy America for globalism. 
   
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Re: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate
« Reply #213 on: January 26, 2021, 04:51:35 pm »
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That photo further up the thread, is that what is referred to as the hills out in west Texas?  Someone told me the weather there is like San Diego, a constant comfortable environment.  And he said it was one of the prettiest places in America to live.

   Though loosely defined by just about all Texans @jafo2010 This is generally considered The Texas Hill Country.



   The Guadalupe Mountains are further west, Big Bend area.
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Re: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate
« Reply #214 on: January 26, 2021, 05:32:56 pm »
For those of you kicking around in your head the concept of a 3rd party, and a chance for Trump to win as a 3rd party candidate, take a hard look at the numbers below.  Yes, Lincoln won as the first Republican running, it could be considered a 3rd party run. BUT, huge but, the Dems split their ticket.  You had two Dems running which split the ticket, and weakened their effort.  DO NOT HOLD YOUR BREATH FOR THE DEMS TO DO THAT AGAIN.

Also interesting about the ways of the Electoral College.  Notice the second vote getter only took one state in the Electoral College, despite the 3rd vote getter having 61.4% as many popular votes of Douglas, who took 11 states and 72 Electoral Votes.  Even the 4th place popular vote getter had more Electoral College votes versus Douglas.

Compare this data to todays elections, and there is no way a 3rd party wins.  NO WAY!!!  Look at the total votes.  A pittance compared to today.  So, for all you thinking a 3rd party is a viable option because of anything that happened in the past, I say, know the past.  It is not possible, and it certainly is not feasible.  Having both parties with a grudge to destroy you for certain would end in folly.  They would impeach Trump because of the color of his hair!

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1860 Presidential Election
303 members of the Electoral College
152 electoral votes needed to win

Turnout   81.2%
    
Abraham Lincoln
Party          Republican   
Home state   Illinois
Running mate   Hannibal Hamlin   
Electoral vote   180   
States carried   18   
Popular vote   1,865,908   
Percentage   39.8%
    
  Stephen A. Douglas   
Party         Democratic
Home state   Illinois
Running mate   Herschel V. Johnson
Electoral vote   12
States carried   1
Popular vote   1,380,202
Percentage   29.5%

  John Breckenridge
Party      Southern Democrat
Home state   Kentucky
Running mate   Joseph Lane
Electoral vote   72
States carried   11
Popular vote   848,019
Percentage   18.1%

  John Bell   
Party         Constitutional Union
Home state   Tennessee
Running mate   Edward Everett
Electoral vote   39
States carried   3
Popular vote   590,901
Percentage   12.6%

Total Votes:  4,685,030



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« Reply #215 on: January 26, 2021, 05:46:56 pm »
I think a lot will hinge on who gets the upper hand going toward 2024.  If we see a Jeb, Kasich, type I am 90% sure MAGA will be organizing as a 3rd party in earnest.

The old establishment Pubs are deluding themselves if they think the party is going back to the "good old days".

The Tech oligarchs, large corps and Chamber of Commerce are all solidly behind the new fascist order and will support the Rats as long as they get their piece of the pie.

It 's the Trump Pub party that represents main street, working class people, middle class Americans and socially conservative traditional Americans. We don't have the bully pulpit of the media, or presidency, but you can bet in 2022 any Pub not standing with Trump will be marginalized, or voted out.
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« Reply #216 on: January 26, 2021, 05:49:59 pm »
Corbe, or anyone, why is the HILL COUNTRY of Texas not listed as one of the best places to retire in the USA?  I have heard nothing but great things about the area.

Unlike San Diego, which is very costly for housing, and perhaps other things negative other than weather, I have heard nothing but great things about HILL COUNTRY, Texas.

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I think a lot will hinge on who gets the upper hand going toward 2024.  If we see a Jeb, Kasich, type I am 90% sure MAGA will be organizing as a 3rd party in earnest.

Seriously?  You think the postman's son has a shot of anything above Dogcatcher?  Really?  He might, huge might, get the nomination for Senator in Ohio, but I doubt he would win the primary.  But he does have name recognition.  Portman leaving opens the door for someone.  But here is a fine example of implementing the policies to rebuild the Republican Party.  No RINO would ever have the support of the party, and Kasich is an extreme RINO!!!

And Jeb Bush, he spent $100 million to get 1%.  And you think a man that has disappeared for 4-8 years from the public eye will have a REAL shot of winning the primary for the Republicans?  When pigs fly!!!

None of these light weight politicians stand a chance against Trump or others I believe who will run should Trump not.  I see the governors of Florida and South Dakota seriously considering a run for POTUS.  Then there is Ted Cruz who will definitely try again should Trump not run.  I do not see 17 primary candidates with the election in 2024 assuming Trump does not run.

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« Reply #218 on: January 26, 2021, 06:13:37 pm »
Seriously?  You think the postman's son has a shot of anything above Dogcatcher?  Really?  He might, huge might, get the nomination for Senator in Ohio, but I doubt he would win the primary.  But he does have name recognition.  Portman leaving opens the door for someone.  But here is a fine example of implementing the policies to rebuild the Republican Party.  No RINO would ever have the support of the party, and Kasich is an extreme RINO!!!

And Jeb Bush, he spent $100 million to get 1%.  And you think a man that has disappeared for 4-8 years from the public eye will have a REAL shot of winning the primary for the Republicans?  When pigs fly!!!

None of these light weight politicians stand a chance against Trump or others I believe who will run should Trump not.  I see the governors of Florida and South Dakota seriously considering a run for POTUS.  Then there is Ted Cruz who will definitely try again should Trump not run.  I do not see 17 primary candidates with the election in 2024 assuming Trump does not run.

Geez, did you miss the term "TYPE"?  Analogy be damned I guess
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« Reply #219 on: January 26, 2021, 06:17:53 pm »
Corbe, or anyone, why is the HILL COUNTRY of Texas not listed as one of the best places to retire in the USA?  I have heard nothing but great things about the area.

Unlike San Diego, which is very costly for housing, and perhaps other things negative other than weather, I have heard nothing but great things about HILL COUNTRY, Texas.

Things change.   Think of all the rabid lefties that have migrated from leftist states like California, New York, Washington, etc.   Guess where a bunch of them ended up.   Yeah, the rolling hills and geography is still there.  But the neighbors are starting to suck.    888mouth
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« Reply #220 on: January 26, 2021, 06:18:29 pm »
   Though loosely defined by just about all Texans @jafo2010 This is generally considered The Texas Hill Country.



   The Guadalupe Mountains are further west, Big Bend area.

Not to be confused with the Piney Hills of East Texas and Nacogdoches.
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« Reply #221 on: January 26, 2021, 06:25:42 pm »
Not to be confused with the Piney Hills of East Texas and Nacogdoches.

You mean heaven?   :cool:

p.s. we call it piney woods.
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« Reply #222 on: January 26, 2021, 06:30:40 pm »
Down memory lane....  Way back when, the democrats and whigs were America's two parties.  The whigs went whole awhoring like democrats and Republicans of today.  Iowans took offense and started the Republican party.  Can political whores be defeated, yes.  Can they be defeated if the political whores run the government and change the Republic to a one party dictatorship?  It would have been easier to win the last election, but deniers and wolfs in sheep's clothing were quite successful, and election fraud was quite successful.  The deadbeats that stood aside and let it happen now want to regain some reputation.  Demanding consequences for election fraud accountability, at the time,  would have been much easier, than the path we are now on.  Many still put their confidence in those that lead them to defeat.  Dismal out look, i should think so.
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« Reply #223 on: January 26, 2021, 06:37:08 pm »
DC patriot, its OK to attack Trump and claim to be apolitical, but criticize one of the entrenched Trump hater gods, and the pack of wolves descend.  You might wonder if you're at DU.
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« Reply #224 on: January 26, 2021, 06:40:53 pm »
DC patriot, its OK to attack Trump and claim to be apolitical, but criticize one of the entrenched Trump hater gods, and the pack of wolves descend.  You might wonder if you're at DU.
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Maybe a tad dramatic there?  I can count the hard core NT"s here on one hand.
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