Bye, Bye, Miss American Pie

[mystery-ak]

Bye, Bye, Miss American Pie
By David Solway Jan 16, 2021 5:23 PM ET

Something touched me deep inside
The day the music died

Don Mclean

 

We live in troubling times. The American election is over but the popular belief that it was fraudulently engineered shows no sign of abating. The evidence that a vast conspiracy has occurred, particularly in several swing states, is convincing for a significant portion of the electorate, and the complicity of a censoring media apparatus is undoubted. Even reputable conservative thinkers and writers, while deploring the current state of political events, seem to take cover by speaking ill of Trump, or repeating Democratic Party talking points, or doing their best to waffle the issues. Republican congressmen and women justify their pusillanimity and backstabbing, currying favor with their nominal adversaries and, as political commentator Grant Brown says, feeding their allies on the right to the crocodiles on the left. Perfidy seems to have become fashionable. In consequence, the political Left appears to have triumphed across the board.

People have trouble grasping the enormity of what has happened. The idea is almost too big for the mind to contain: a political class that has betrayed its country; a Supreme Court that effectively accepted and thus contributed to an unprecedented catastrophe by refusing to hear a suit filed by Texas and 17 other states alleging election law tampering; an education system that bears a disquieting resemblance to the German academy of the 1930s; a “free press” that is not a free press but a state propaganda network; a dedicated and effective president who has been discredited and attacked, including through incitement of political violence against him and his family; organizations like the Trump Accountability Project and the Lincoln Project compiling a “database of all Republicans who worked for President Donald Trump with the aim of ensuring they never land jobs in the private sector,” a measure associated with Fascist and Communist dictatorships; and a nation demonstrably in the throes of destabilizing turmoil. The historical context has been described by Morris Berman in The Twilight of American Culture as a “growing climate of apathy, cynicism and corruption [which] might be collectively termed ‘internal barbarism.’”

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https://pjmedia.com/columns/david-solway-2/2021/01/16/bye-bye-miss-american-pie-2-n1389919

[XenaLee]

a “growing climate of apathy, cynicism and corruption....

Ah... if it were only/just that.   It's more like an exponentially increasing state of sin and Satanic insanity.

Everything is upside down, inside out, truth is called lies and the lies are believed by many as the truth.   Is it any wonder that God is turning his back on America now?   Add to that the abortion laws that will be passed enabling full-term and even after birth infanticide. 

No, I think our time is up.   And I think God has spoken that very clear message to us .... so Christians, prepare.

[christian]

Well said, for so long the warning of the approach of the End Times has been denied/ignored.  After faithfully serving Satan,many believe all they have to do is just acknowledge God and they will have out smarted God and secured eternal life.  God made it clear that that is unacceptable.  They believe they will,more clever than God, hustle God.  After all the brainwashing media has shown countless times that if your really clever and deceive/con by hustle you get your way in everything.  The hustle liars/deceivers have hearkened to the voice of iniquities, they shall receive the rewards that go with such.  NO, they don't go to heaven.

American pie was prophetic, End Times prophesy-this will be the day that I die.......................

[roamer_1]

If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land. 2Ch 7:14 KJV

Hope is in repentance, and it is never too late. Those who lean on end times prophecy to seal our doom are not seeing. There is a circumstance wherein this nation turns around. and it fits the end.

It ain't over yet.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Hope is in repentance, and it is never too late. Those who lean on end times prophecy to seal our doom are not seeing. There is a circumstance wherein this nation turns around. and it fits the end.

It ain't over yet.

People have trouble grasping the enormity of what has happened. The idea is almost too big for the mind to contain....

This is why it's over @roamer_1

[roamer_1]

No, I think our time is up.   And I think God has spoken that very clear message to us .... so Christians, prepare.

Damn straight - He has removed his arm of protection and demons are flooding in. But is it not true that where evil grows stronger faith and light abound? The times are dire and foreboding. But in adversity springs forth faith.

Pray as fervently for national repentance as you do for your own soul. It can happen, and has.

[roamer_1]

This is why it's over @roamer_1

Nah @Right_in_Virginia ... 9/10ths is but normalcy bias. What will judge America is what she does when her situation is made apparent and she is awakened to it. There is the razor's bitter edge. Either she will repent and walk that bitter edge, or she will fall to either side... It's how it works. The time approaches. But it ain't here.

I hope she wakes before it is too  late and that is her only recourse.

 

[Right_in_Virginia]

Bye, Bye, Miss American Pie
By David Solway Jan 16, 2021 5:23 PM ET

[...]

People have trouble grasping the enormity of what has happened. The idea is almost too big for the mind to contain:

a political class that has betrayed its country;

a Supreme Court that effectively accepted and thus contributed to an unprecedented catastrophe by refusing to hear a suit filed by Texas and 17 other states alleging election law tampering;

an education system that bears a disquieting resemblance to the German academy of the 1930s;

a “free press” that is not a free press but a state propaganda network;

a dedicated and effective president who has been discredited and attacked, including through incitement of political violence against him and his family;

organizations like the Trump Accountability Project and the Lincoln Project compiling a “database of all Republicans who worked for President Donald Trump with the aim of ensuring they never land jobs in the private sector,” a measure associated with Fascist and Communist dictatorships;

and a nation demonstrably in the throes of destabilizing turmoil. The historical context has been described by Morris Berman in The Twilight of American Culture as a “growing climate of apathy, cynicism and corruption [which] might be collectively termed ‘internal barbarism.’”

more
https://pjmedia.com/columns/david-solway-2/2021/01/16/bye-bye-miss-american-pie-2-n1389919

Note: added paragraphs are mine and I would add one more:

a duly elected President of the United States cut off --- without resistance --- from communicating with American citizens and the world.

[HoustonSam]

Hope is in repentance, and it is never too late. Those who lean on end times prophecy to seal our doom are not seeing. There is a circumstance wherein this nation turns around. and it fits the end.

It ain't over yet.

I think that hope now is for the individual man or woman, not for any political entity not called "Israel."  I'm afraid I find it more likely that the US is moving quickly along the path to Mystery Babylon, ignorant of and hence rejecting the premises and values of its founding; just as the Judaic priesthood, the best that man could do in the absence of Christ, became a force of identitarian self-aggrandizement that had to learn of His birth from outsiders.

Or course reasonable people can differ on these interpretations; I offer merely my own conjecture.  It's difficult enough for me to manage my own individual self within His Will and Word, much less to interpret the events of our times.

[Hoodat]

February made me shiver, with every paper I delivered.
Bad news on the doorstep.  I couldn't take one more step.

[XenaLee]

Hope is in repentance, and it is never too late. Those who lean on end times prophecy to seal our doom are not seeing. There is a circumstance wherein this nation turns around. and it fits the end.

It ain't over yet.

How does it "fit the end"?   In the end days, Israel stands alone against the rest of the world.   Right?

[Right_in_Virginia]

Nah @Right_in_Virginia ... 9/10ths is but normalcy bias.

This is rather my point @roamer_1  Normalcy bias is the disbelief or minimization of a threat.  If we cannot wrap our heads around, if we cannot define what has happened, how do we fix it?  The Marxists have hit this country with tsunami after tsunami of misinformation, control and corruption for five solid years without mercy and only they have lifeboats.

What will judge America is what she does when her situation is made apparent and she is awakened to it. There is the razor's bitter edge. Either she will repent and walk that bitter edge, or she will fall to either side... It's how it works. The time approaches. But it ain't here.

I hope she wakes before it is too  late and that is her only recourse.

You hope she wakes from what? 

[Right_in_Virginia]

I think that hope now is for the individual man or woman, not for any political entity not called "Israel." [...]

So if we fight to preserve the United States of America as the last best hope of all on Earth, are we blocking God's will @HoustonSam

[libertybele]

How does it "fit the end"?   In the end days, Israel stands alone against the rest of the world.   Right?

I remember when Netanyahu spoke to Congress ... one sentence stood out to me:

..."as a prime minister of Israel, I can promise you one more thing: Even if Israel has to stand alone, Israel will stand."

His speech was primarily about Iran.  Trump has curtailed the actions of Iran, including Soleimani's assassination.  I have no doubt that Biden will continue the error of Obama's ways and strike another nuke deal with Iran.

Here is the transcript of Netanyahu's speech -- because of what has happened recently, it certainly gives me better understanding of what he was clearly conveying.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/03/03/full-text-netanyahus-address-to-congress/

[HoustonSam]

So if we fight to preserve the United States of America as the last best hope of all on Earth, are we blocking God's will @HoustonSam

@Right_in_Virginia

I don't know of any serious Christian theology or eschatology that suggests the Active Will of God includes the progression of evil.  So the answer to your question is "no."

The Permissive Will of God allows for the progression of evil, else man is reduced to a mere automaton and our relationship with God can have no fundamental meaning.  When someone asks "why does God allow evil?" the answer is because if He didn't then we would not be independent beings with moral accountability and our relationship with Him would have no meaning.

Prophecy does not reveal what God wants in an active sense, it reveals what He allows as part of our own free will.  It doesn't tell us what He is going to do, it tells us what *we* are going to do, until the day comes according to His will when He again personally intervenes in the world, not as a baby in a manger, but first to collect His Church, and then as a Conqueror on a white horse.

It is never wrong for us to resist evil.  It is wrong for us to misplace the fundamental source of Truth and Righteousness; as much as we believe in it, that source is not the US Constitution.  Contrary to traditional American rhetoric, the United States of America is *not* the last and best hope of all on Earth.  That Hope came in the flesh almost two millennia before the United States was even imagined, and if the United States ends, that Hope will not, and will return on the appointed day.

[roamer_1]

I think that hope now is for the individual man or woman, not for any political entity not called "Israel."  I'm afraid I find it more likely that the US is moving quickly along the path to Mystery Babylon, ignorant of and hence rejecting the premises and values of its founding; just as the Judaic priesthood, the best that man could do in the absence of Christ, became a force of identitarian self-aggrandizement that had to learn of His birth from outsiders.

Or course reasonable people can differ on these interpretations; I offer merely my own conjecture.  It's difficult enough for me to manage my own individual self within His Will and Word, much less to interpret the events of our times.

Sure and that's right @HoustonSam ... But a thing that Christendom omits in it's zeal for personal repentance is the fact that Yah does indeed judge nations, and the judgement of THIS nation is what we must focus on together. Because we ARE this nation corporately. How to bring it back inherently involves not personal repentance, but the repentance of a nation... Else our path is sure.

And the Christian church as it is corporately is ill fit to teach it. Revival is the only hope. And that will not be a political solution.

[roamer_1]

How does it "fit the end"?   In the end days, Israel stands alone against the rest of the world.   Right?

Yes. 'Who and where is Israel' should be your next question, and my answer. 

[Right_in_Virginia]

@Right_in_Virginia

I don't know of any serious Christian theology or eschatology that suggests the Active Will of God includes the progression of evil.  So the answer to your question is "no."

Good.

[Sighlass]

Sure and that's right @HoustonSam ... But a thing that Christendom omits in it's zeal for personal repentance is the fact that Yah does indeed judge nations, and the judgement of THIS nation is what we must focus on together. Because we ARE this nation corporately. How to bring it back inherently involves not personal repentance, but the repentance of a nation... Else our path is sure.

And the Christian church as it is corporately is ill fit to teach it. Revival is the only hope. And that will not be a political solution.

"[God] will not be used as a convenience. Men or nations who think they can revive the Faith in order to make a good society might just as well think they can use the stairs of heaven as a shortcut to the nearest chemist's shop." ― C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters

[roamer_1]

This is rather my point @roamer_1  Normalcy bias is the disbelief or minimization of a threat.  If we cannot wrap our heads around, if we cannot define what has happened, how do we fix it?  The Marxists have hit this country with tsunami after tsunami of misinformation, control and corruption for five solid years without mercy and only they have lifeboats.

The God I serve is bigger than the commies, @Right_in_Virginia . It ain't the commies you should be fearing.

You hope she wakes from what?

From her selfish sinful drunken stupor, before she gets the 2x4 upside her head and she lands with her skirts up over her head for all to see.

[roamer_1]

"[God] will not be used as a convenience. Men or nations who think they can revive the Faith in order to make a good society might just as well think they can use the stairs of heaven as a shortcut to the nearest chemist's shop." ― C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters

I think I will disagree with that @Sighlass , or Nineveh would not have been spared.

[Sighlass]

I think I will disagree with that @Sighlass , or Nineveh would not have been spared.

What I get out of the quote is that God will not be insincerely played like a fiddle. Something I find myself guilty of trying. Sincerely can move mountains, I ain't mastered molehills yet, because I lean too much on my own.

[HoustonSam]

Sure and that's right @HoustonSam ... But a thing that Christendom omits in it's zeal for personal repentance is the fact that Yah does indeed judge nations, and the judgement of THIS nation is what we must focus on together. Because we ARE this nation corporately. How to bring it back inherently involves not personal repentance, but the repentance of a nation... Else our path is sure.

And the Christian church as it is corporately is ill fit to teach it. Revival is the only hope. And that will not be a political solution.

I agree @roamer_1 that the solution is not political and that the American church (at least the part of it I can see) is ill fit for its purpose right now.  Given that, *where* will revival come from, and how will revival affect the country corporately other than by first affecting people individually?

[Right_in_Virginia]

The God I serve is bigger than the commies, @Right_in_Virginia . It ain't the commies you should be fearing.

From her selfish sinful drunken stupor, before she gets the 2x4 upside her head and she lands with her skirts up over her head for all to see.

Cool. 

[roamer_1]

What I get out of the quote is that God will not be insincerely played like a fiddle. Something I find myself guilty of trying. Sincerely can move mountains, I ain't mastered molehills yet.

LOL! That's right! Sincerely! 

But I was not talking of a manipulated scenario. There have been sincere revivals here before, and it can happen again... And normally does in times of trouble. We have a dark path to walk that we ourselves have started down... Let's hope we hear when Yah in his mercy calls us back. It will hurt, and it will suck. and it will be harder than carrying on the same... But I will hope that America will hear and remember who she is.