Watch: Trump Supporters Clash with Police, Attempt to Breach U.S. Capitol Building

[Idiot]

Is there ABSOLUTE proof that ANTIFA was in the capitol with some Trump supporters?  I got into a heated discussion with my somewhat liberal brother a few minutes ago.  He swears the picture of the guy in the horned hat is fake.  He even said something about the horned hat guy being a counter protestor at the ANTIFA rallies.

Any proof I can share?

BTW...Trump is rumored to be in my town now at our local AFB.

[Hoodat]

Is there ABSOLUTE proof that ANTIFA was in the capitol with some Trump supporters?  I got into a heated discussion with my somewhat liberal brother a few minutes ago.  He swears the picture of the guy in the horned hat is fake.  He even said something about the horned hat guy being a counter protestor at the ANTIFA rallies.

Any proof I can share?

BTW...Trump is rumored to be in my town now at our local AFB.

According to the NY Post, he's QAnon.

[HoustonSam]

Pretty much.  Blue lives matter.   Idiots who break and enter assume the risks of their trade.

Fair enough.  So just to be clear, you're on record here that the next time "protesters" attempt to break into a Federal Court House or other Federal facility, you support Law Enforcement shooting them dead.  *Not* because any LE officer might be in grave danger, but because the "protesters" are breaching security of a Federal building - they can be legitimately shot dead for that.  Is that a correct statement of your position?

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Fair enough.  So just to be clear, you're on record here that the next time "protesters" attempt to break into a Federal Court House or other Federal facility, you support Law Enforcement shooting them dead.  *Not* because any LE officer might be in grave danger, but because the "protesters" are breaching security of a Federal building - they can be legitimately shot dead for that.  Is that a correct statement of your position?

Ehhhhhhh I would nuance with context... like is there a huge mob of people rushing to get the cop? Then yes, justified.

[Wingnut]

SAY HER NAME!

NO JUSTICE... NO PEACE! 

Oh wait.... dead white privileged girl.  Nevermind.

JAZZY Rules.  She got what she deserved.

[HoustonSam]

Ehhhhhhh I would nuance with context... like is there a huge mob of people rushing to get the cop? Then yes, justified.

That's fair but I don't think it's what @Jazzhead actually argued.  Furthermore it assumes the "protesters" are trying to "get the cop."  I've seen no evidence that the cop yesterday was any kind of distinct target of the crowd gathered at the Capitol.

I'm pretty sure we all agree that LE can use deadly force to protect themselves when in grave danger.  The question is whether they can use deadly force to repel trespassers onto public property when they are not in grave danger.

Some might argue that grave danger could have been inferred by the Capitol Hill Police yesterday, hence justifying the shooting.  However I've seen no reports of injuries to LE from yesterday's events; there is simply no evidence that any police officer was actually in grave danger yesterday, and more specifically no reports that the woman who was killed posed, or even seemed to pose, grave danger to anyone.

[mountaineer]

...  According to reports and video footage, 35-year-old Ashli Babbitt, a California native and a 14-year Air Force veteran, was shot by a senior U.S. Capitol Police officer inside the breached building after it appears she tried to climb through the broken glass on a door. She was unarmed at the time, reports NPR. ...

Three other people reportedly died during Wednesday’s chaos as a result of unspecified “medical emergencies.” D.C. Police Chief Robert Contee III confirmed this later in the night.

The Federalist

Not sure what "medical emergencies" may have been involved, but apparently they weren't people whose greatest criminal act was - allegedly - trespassing, like Ms. Babbitt.

[mystery-ak]

Capitol Police officer who shot woman in Capitol placed on leave

The U.S. Capitol Police said Thursday that an employee responsible for fatally shooting a rioter outside the House chamber has been placed on administrative leave and is under investigation.

A 35-year-old California woman and Air Force veteran, Ashli Babbitt, was among the mob that gathered in support of President Trump and broke into the Capitol on Wednesday to stop Congress from formally certifying President-elect Joe Biden's election victory.

Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund said in a statement that Babbitt was part of the group forcing its way toward the House chamber where lawmakers had not yet been evacuated.
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Sund said that medical assistance was given to Babbitt "immediately" and she was transported to the hospital after being shot by the Capitol Police employee, who was not identified. But Babbitt ultimately died of her injuries later Wednesday.

"As protesters were forcing their way toward the House Chamber where Members of Congress were sheltering in place, a sworn USCP employee discharged their service weapon, striking an adult female," Sund said.

"As per the USCP’s policy, the USCP employee has been placed on administrative leave and their police powers have been suspended pending the outcome of a joint Metropolitan Police Department (MPD) and USCP investigation."

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https://thehill.com/homenews/house/533137-capitol-police-officer-who-shot-woman-in-capitol-placed-on-leave

[skeeter]

Advisable to watch the video and not rely on The Hills characterization.

[Elderberry]

Statement of Steven Sund, Chief of Police, Regarding the Events of January 6, 2021

https://www.uscp.gov/media-center/press-releases/statement-steven-sund-chief-police

January 7, 2021
Press Release

United States Capitol Police (USCP) officers and our law enforcement partners responded valiantly when faced with thousands of individuals involved in violent riotous actions as they stormed the United States Capitol Building.  These individuals actively attacked United States Capitol Police Officers and other uniformed law enforcement officers with metal pipes, discharged chemical irritants, and took up other weapons against our officers. They were determined to enter into the Capitol Building by causing great damage.

As protesters were forcing their way toward the House Chamber where Members of Congress were sheltering in place, a sworn USCP employee discharged their service weapon, striking an adult female.  Medical assistance was rendered immediately, and the female was transported to the hospital where she later succumbed to her injuries.  She has been identified as Ashli Babbitt.

As per the USCP’s policy, the USCP employee has been placed on administrative leave and their police powers have been suspended pending the outcome of a joint Metropolitan Police Department (MPD) and USCP investigation.

As these other violent events were unfolding across the Capitol Complex, the USCP officers were simultaneously responding to a report of a pipe bomb in the 300 block of First Street, SE, and a second pipe bomb in the 400 block of Canal Street, SE.  A suspicious vehicle was also identified in the 300 block of First Street, SE, at this time.

The USCP Hazardous Materials Response Team determined that both devices were, in fact, hazardous and could cause great harm to public safety.  The devices were disabled and turned over to the FBI for further investigation and analysis.

The suspicious vehicle was thoroughly investigated by the USCP, FBI, and ATF.  It has been cleared of any hazards.  The USCP arrested the vehicle’s owner along with 13 additional suspects for unlawful entry of the U.S. Capitol.  The USCP is continuing to review surveillance video and open source material to identify others who may be subject to criminal charges.

The Department is grateful for the assistance provided by more than 18 local, state, and Federal law enforcement agencies and the National Guard.  More than 50 USCP and MPD sustained injuries during the attack on the Capitol.  Several USCP officers have been hospitalized with serious injuries. 

The violent attack on the U.S. Capitol was unlike any I have ever experienced in my 30 years in law enforcement here in Washington, D.C.  Maintaining public safety in an open environment – specifically for First Amendment activities – has long been a challenge. The USCP had a robust plan established to address anticipated First Amendment activities.  But make no mistake – these mass riots were not First Amendment activities; they were criminal riotous behavior.  The actions of the USCP officers were heroic given the situation they faced, and I continue to have tremendous respect in the professionalism and dedication of the women and men of the United States Capitol Police.

The USCP is conducting a thorough review of this incident, security planning and policies and procedures.

[Wingnut]

Statement of Steven Sund, Chief of Police, Regarding the Events of January 6, 2021

https://www.uscp.gov/media-center/press-releases/statement-steven-sund-chief-police

Boy oh boy I sure am glad I ain't got the rona cus after reading that:

[Elderberry]

Could the Capitol Rioters Really Be Charged with Felony Murder for Death of Ashli Babbitt?

Law & Crime by Elura NanosJan 7th, 2021

https://lawandcrime.com/legal-analysis/could-the-capitol-rioters-really-be-charged-with-felony-murder-for-death-of-ashli-babbit/

Once it was reported that a woman died during the riots at the Capitol on Wednesday, many on Legal Twitter were quick to call for prosecutors to bring felony murder charges.

Tor Ekeland

Everyone involved should be charged with felony murder.

Walter Shaub

Yes. I understand that the woman was one of the people who attacked the capitol building. But if a member of a gang of bank robbers dies, the surviving members are responsible for the death caused by their actions. So, as far as I'm concerned, the blood is on @HawleyMO's hands.

[mountaineer]

Could the Capitol Rioters Really Be Charged with Felony Murder for Death of Ashli Babbitt?

Someone doesn't have a very firm grasp of the law.

[catfish1957]

Could the Capitol Rioters Really Be Charged with Felony Murder for Death of Ashli Babbitt?

Law & Crime by Elura NanosJan 7th, 2021

https://lawandcrime.com/legal-analysis/could-the-capitol-rioters-really-be-charged-with-felony-murder-for-death-of-ashli-babbit/

The left has gone mad!!!!

[LegalAmerican]

https://twitter.com/RealMattCouch/status/1346923121220190208?s=20

[Hoodat]

Ehhhhhhh I would nuance with context... like is there a huge mob of people rushing to get the cop? Then yes, justified.

And if there isn't a huge mob of people rushing to get the cop?

[LegalAmerican]

Is there ABSOLUTE proof that ANTIFA was in the capitol with some Trump supporters?  I got into a heated discussion with my somewhat liberal brother a few minutes ago.  He swears the picture of the guy in the horned hat is fake.  He even said something about the horned hat guy being a counter protestor at the ANTIFA rallies.

Any proof I can share?

BTW...Trump is rumored to be in my town now at our local AFB.

YES.  Your liberal brother is wrong as all liberals...are.  No Trump supporters wear black with riot helmet and those two guys are identified as ANTIFA with prior pictures of them, supporting ANTIFA.  NOT Q-ANON.  More left lies.

https://twitter.com/RealMattCouch/status/1346923121220190208?s=20

[Smokin Joe]

Not all, it only took a few agent provocateurs to set things in motion.

Right. Using a form of the Delphi Technique, they can make it look like there is wide support for an idea, no matter how bad it is, then fade off to the side once things are set in motion.

[Hoodat]

Statement of Steven Sund, Chief of Police, Regarding the Events of January 6, 2021

https://www.uscp.gov/media-center/press-releases/statement-steven-sund-chief-police

As per the USCP’s policy, the USCP employee has been placed on administrative leave and their police powers have been suspended pending the outcome of a joint Metropolitan Police Department (MPD) and USCP investigation.

Somebody needs to file a FOIA request pronto.

[Stevensr123]

more fake news @Stevensr123?

hope he gets a long long time in jail!!!

Can’t believe CNN apparently had him on as well!

[catfish1957]

hope he gets a long long time in jail!!!

Can’t believe CNN apparently had him on as well!

That cop was on CNN the day it happened?  Beyond disgusting.

[Stevensr123]

That cop was on CNN the day it happened?  Beyond disgusting.

no, the BLM activist who was there to “document” things.

[LegalAmerican]

http://www.brighteon.com/c6d6541c-a62c ... 11ec20e78e



http://theresistance.video/watch?id=5f ... 318ceb28a7

[Smokin Joe]

http://www.brighteon.com/c6d6541c-a62c ... 11ec20e78e

404 error at that link. If you have the full link, please post it.

[dfwgator]

Right. Using a form of the Delphi Technique, they can make it look like there is wide support for an idea, no matter how bad it is, then fade off to the side once things are set in motion.

Time to face facts that these guys play for keeps, and with a willing media that has their back, they can literally get away with Murder.