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Victor Davis Hanson: Statehood For DC And Puerto Rico Means Democrats Will ‘Win All The Time’


Scott Morefield
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December 30, 2020 9:52 PM ET


Hoover Institution Fellow Victor Davis Hanson spoke about the ramifications for Republicans potentially losing control of the U.S. Senate during a Wednesday night appearance on Fox News’ “The Story.”

Republican Georgia Sens. David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler face off against Democratic challengers Jon Ossoff and Raphael Warnock in a tight January 5 runoff that will determine which party controls the Senate. Currently, Republicans hold a 50-48 edge and must win one of two races in order to maintain their majority.

Should Democrats win and eliminate the Senate filibuster, they would conceivably then be able to push through initiatives like statehood for Washington D.C. and Puerto Rico, a move that Hanson told guest anchor Will Cain would pay “massive dividends for them” starting with the addition of “four Democratic senators.”

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Doesn't it require two-thirds of the States to approve such a thing?

...which would seem impossible, with all the 'local' GOP-run governments.
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"Should Democrats win and eliminate the Senate filibuster..."

Can a Senate divided 50/50 change the rules of the Senate (in this case, to eliminate the filibuster)?

I realize that for ordinary "floor votes", the vice president can vote to break a tie.

But... I seem to recall reading that for a vote that is intended to change the parliamentary rules of the Senate, the vice president CANNOT vote, and only Senators themselves are able to vote on this.

If so, Kamala Sutra will be outta the picture on this one.

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Doesn't it require two-thirds of the States to approve such a thing?

...which would seem impossible, with all the 'local' GOP-run governments.
I was surprised too, but it is only Congress's decision.

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Why haven't you fought to stop the steal, Victor?  Where is your love of the Constitution, the rule of law and the will of the people?  You could have been using your megaphone for weeks to bring gravitas to this fight and your silver tongue to define this a righteous fight.  But you've shrugged your shoulders, disappointed that determining the outcome of a political election has become political.

So why do you call on Georgians who voted for the President to overlook your betrayal of them and submit to your fear porn; pointing to them as responsible for the survival or demise of America while you absolve yourself of your own role in it?

You have become a deep disappointment, Victor; a mere wisp of your long-held reputation. 

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Seems the NT and Lincoln folks didn't realize that this could be a runaway train, and we lose it all by spiteing Trump, and losing the senate. 

The law of unintended consequences bites them in the ass again.
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The caustic comments of Hanson are a bit unwarranted.  I have heard him plenty talk about the UGLY TRUTH of where this nation is headed.  You just were not listening.  And unlike the thugs of Antifa and BLM, he is an educated man that speaks in a soft spoken tone, but the dire nation for which he spoke was clear enough to those listening.

And the blame for putting us where we are right now, with the threat of the republic on the verge of being flushed, that blame can be spread widely, including Trump himself.

Yes, Trump.  He has gone around the country declaring he kept his promises, but this simply is not true.  I am a Trump supporter, I voted for him twice.  But he was his own worst enemy for one very important issue.  He made only one DAY ONE promise I know of, which was to end the H1-b Visa Program.  He not only did not do it, but just a few months into his presidency, he met with tech billionaire oligarchs, and he decided to INCREASE the number of H1-b Visa recipients.  When I read that, I turned to my wife and said to her, 'Trump just lost the election in 2020'.  The last number I heard was 1.5 million H1-b Visa recipients.  That number was higher than anything I ever heard.  So many USA citizens being displaced by largely folks from India and no one standing up for them.  And tech folks voted for Trump, and I believe this issue was compelling for them.  He flip flopped and betrayed all these white collar workers.  Dumb and foolish.

His whole rhetoric of build the wall and jobs, was all about representing the American people, USA citizens, perhaps unlike anyone prior to him.  He resonated for that reason and won in 2016.  But it was all empty rhetoric.  And in part, the building the wall was to protect American blue collar workers.  The border stretches 2,000 miles, he built 400 miles of wall in four years.

One more thing.  I understand Trump never having been involved in a political election making mistakes in 2016.  I volunteered 4-5 times with his campaign, only to have not one call from them.  He literally had no ground game in 2016.  I thought that MAJOR oversight would be corrected in 2020, but no, same thing happened again.  Offered to help, and never once anyone calling to say yes, we can use your help.  From my perspective, having a strong ground game is essential to win in state or national elections.  He got lucky once, but I thought he would not be foolish to play it the same way a second time.

I offered to help the fellow in my Congressional District I thought was most qualified.  I wrote him directly, and he wrote back saying I will have my campaign manager contact you.  He did.  We talked for about ten minutes.  I told him I have run, got elected with 87% of the vote, and got five others elected whose campaign I ran, and I would like to help.  I pointed out to him weaknesses I observed.  Their strategy was to campaign in one county and leave the other alone(mine the one being ignored).  The one they were not campaigning in was where the most new votes were needed, and they were not going to campaign at all.  I went to the county meeting to meet this guy before I contacted him, and he was the only candidate of nine running for the Republican primary in my district not there.  I thought that was a huge mistake.  His district spans just two counties.  Bottomline, I never heard from them again.  I wrote him again after he LOST the primary and told him what he failed to do cost him the election, and that I pointed out many things to his campaign manager, and they ran what I consider a dumb campaign, one reflective of someone clueless as to what it takes to WIN!!!  And of course, the Dem won in the general against an individual less qualified, and less impressive, but knew enough to campaign in both counties.  As a constituent, since he did not take five minutes to talk to me, someone that could have helped him get elected, he was not worthy of my vote.  I voted for one of his competitors.  Basic Politics 101, talk to everyone, but particularly those that say they can help you get elected, are willing to work to get you elected.  Arrogant idiot.

Back to Trump, while I was always optimistic he would win, I knew deep down he was in quicksand, and clueless on how to get out.  With the pandemic, that did not help matters either.    In ten months, Donald Trump lost as many Americans as the USA lost fighting the Nazis and Japanese over 3.5 years in a very violent war.  And the people dying were largely seniors, part of his base. 

So, in terms of leveling blame for why we are here now, Trump is responsible for failing to keep promises, for failing to listen to someone other than Fauci, who was a major POS from DAY ONE on the virus.  Trump likes to fire people that are in opposition or in the way.  How about wrong 100% of the time?  It was Fauci telling Trump, no worries mate with this virus, no need to wear a mask, no need to stop flights from China and on and on.  To hear Dr. Judy Mikovits, Fauci is a grand scoundrel, not worthy of any level of trust.  I heard what she had to say, and it registered.  Where the f*&^ was Trump in hearing her message and perhaps a dozen others that worked with Fauci?  He was out to lunch!!!  I think it is safe to say perhaps 100,000 Americans are dead today because of Fauci's total incompetence!!!!  Perhaps more.

No, Trump earned this, and in the process, with the Democommies fully prepared to do EVERYTHING, INCLUDING CHEATING THEIR A## OFF ON STEROIDS, we are one election from ending our republic.  And even if one Republican wins their senate race in Georgia, that is a majority vote of one for simple votes.  It is nine votes short of having a true voting majority. 

And then there is the next election where they systematically decide which elections they need to cheat to win again.  Either we end the cheating, or we are Russia, Venezuela, just one more banana country.

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The caustic comments of Hanson are a bit unwarranted.  I have heard him plenty talk about the UGLY TRUTH of where this nation is headed.  You just were not listening.  And unlike the thugs of Antifa and BLM, he is an educated man that speaks in a soft spoken tone, but the dire nation for which he spoke was clear enough to those listening.

Actually @jafo2010 Hanson dropped the ball on this.  I watched him talk about how he can't understand how this has been allowed to become political.  The comic relief was the reaction from Lou Dobbs who I thought was going to reach through the monitor and bitch-slap Hanson. :laugh:    Talk is a wonderful thing ... except when choosing an outcome and pressing forward for it becomes critical.  Hanson remains all talk.  Good for him, not so much for the country.

And the blame for putting us where we are right now, with the threat of the republic on the verge of being flushed, that blame can be spread widely, including Trump himself.

Yes, Trump.  He has gone around the country declaring he kept his promises, but this simply is not true.

Trump did keep his promises.  It's the reason 11+ million more Americans voted to keep him in office than voted to put him there in the first place.  You don't pick up 11+ million diverse voters from across the political spectrum unless you've done a damn good job and voters believe you when you say you'll continue to do so.  If you'd like I'll list the promises made and promises kept.  Let me know.

You go on to list your personal disappointments with the President as though they are reasons he lost the election and put this country at risk.  I'd like to smack you upside the head and admonish you to "snap out of it!" --- the President didn't lose this election.  I'll remind you that at midnight we were looking at and tasting a landslide victory.  Then the counting stopped.....and the rest is almost history.  You know this.  You've been following the hearings and the presentations of staggering proof of election and voter fraud.  You also know while the President is fighting for himself, he is also just as strongly fighting to prevent the communist takeover walking around laughing and going by the name of KAmala.  Trump is both the victim and the hero in this sordid saga.


Back to Trump, while I was always optimistic he would win, I knew deep down he was in quicksand, and clueless on how to get out.  With the pandemic, that did not help matters either.    In ten months, Donald Trump lost as many Americans as the USA lost fighting the Nazis and Japanese over 3.5 years in a very violent war.  And the people dying were largely seniors, part of his base.

As for the China flu, none of the 75+ million Americans who voted for Donald Trump blamed him for the COVID deaths. Certainly not for the elderly who died by the thousands in senior care facilities at the instruction of a handful of democrat governors. These Americans credited Trump with marshaling the private sector as no lifelong politician would begin to know how to do--- for protecting Americans and responding to every need of our medical caregivers and governors.... closing our borders, building hospitals, sending US Naval ships, marshaling the strategy of our military for supply distribution, assisting our foreign friend and foe alike replenish their medical supplies, plowing the field for rapid development, testing and approval of multiple therapeutics and two vaccines.  We remember the original estimate was 15 days to flatten the curve or 2.5 million Americans would be dead and credit the President's ceaseless efforts with saving countless lives by Fauci's own projections.

The moment Trump was convinced Fauci was full of shit, his message changed --- and he was excoriated for it:  Reopen the United States.  Trump fought against a 24/7 drumbeat of despair and smears that he was cold and uncaring but STILL preached and lived by example "the cure cannot be worse than the disease itself".  75+ million Americans credited the President for pushing ahead with true grit and common sense even though every bloody pundit, news report, political campaign ad was demanding he stop.

No, Trump earned this, and in the process, with the Democommies fully prepared to do EVERYTHING, INCLUDING CHEATING THEIR A## OFF ON STEROIDS, we are one election from ending our republic.  And even if one Republican wins their senate race in Georgia, that is a majority vote of one for simple votes.  It is nine votes short of having a true voting majority. 

And then there is the next election where they systematically decide which elections they need to cheat to win again.  Either we end the cheating, or we are Russia, Venezuela, just one more banana country.

Are you seriously pronouncing the President and the Americans who gave him a landslide victory deserve to have it stolen?  If you don't want to end up like Russia or Venezuela you need to pull yourself together, Jafo.  You've had your rant now turn on your landing lights and come back to us, we'll guide you in for a safe landing. 

The Democrats, Republican statehouses, nearly all Republicans on Capitol Hill, and every damn one of the frickin' lowlife, traitorous bastards in the Lincoln Project need to be the targets of your next tongue lashing.  They are all STILL trying to kill the one man working for us to save this nation. 




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Right_in_Virginia....Trump did keep his promises.

This is true on many things, but not on some of the most important.  Trump ran on two big issues, and the fact is, one of them really was a part of the other.  He ran on America first, putting Americans first in terms of jobs, and in terms of everything.  He spoke of jobs repeatedly.  And he spoke about the wall.  He mentioned Mexico paying for it, but I never cared about that, I only cared that the wall was built, and for the many obvious reasons.  But the wall in part was part of his jobs message.  With the wall built, that would largely stem the flood of illegal invading aliens, and provide some relief for blue collar workers in the USA.  If you go to any construction site, at least in the south, it is 90%+ illegal aliens.  I worked on a consulting gig in southern California, and 350 of 380 employees at a pie plant were illegal aliens.  The wall was to stem the tide of illegals. 

The ONLY thing Trump promised DAY ONE was to end the H1-b Visa Program.  He did NOT do this!  In fact, a few months into his presidency, he met with the tech oligarchs, and he increased the H1-b Visas.  You may think this not such a big deal, but I know because I am in the industry that this did in fact affect quite a few, this decision.  Americans being systematically displaced from high paying jobs with the legal import of H1-b recipients.  For these two reasons, wages for 20 years have been frozen.  Out of all of this, we now have a new class that has a name, the NON ESSENTIAL CLASS.  Get used to it, for it is here to stay.  The NON ESSENTIAL CLASS is anyone that is a USA citizen, earmarked for termination from the workforce and replaced by foreigners at half the wage and no benefits.

Trump did not deliver on this, and worse Congress was never behind him one step of the way.  Not the Republican controlled Senate and certainly not the Democommie controlled House.  They gave him roughly a little over $1 billion for the wall estimated to be over $23-24 billion.  Now we are spending billions to build walls in OTHER countries.  That makes sense when walls do not make a difference, or so said the Democommies for four years.

So, if you think his progress on these two issues is satisfactory for you, that is good for you, but not me.  The Republicans in mass betrayed Trump.  You know and I certainly know it.  And get ready, for the show on January 6th will amount to literally nothing.  Trump is a fighter, but he got bested by thieves in a corrupt system.  There are thousands that deserve a rope for treason, but not a one of them will see justice.  We are about to install a man as POTUS that has earned three ropes for three separate acts of treason that I am aware of, and we cannot get the DOJ or FBI to do their stinking jobs.  The corruption in Washington is so pervasive, that it needs a major flushing.  And the rotten stinking media can go too.

Don't get me wrong, I would vote for him again, but the party he is a part of is rotten to the core.  And the Dems, they are rotten to infinity.

We need more than just Donald Trump singing the tune he has been singing.  This election has been stolen, and I do not think there is anyone willing to make a real serious stand other than Trump.  And another fact is that there are too many RINOs, people like Ben Sasse that thinks his sh*t does not stink, he is nothing more than one more RINO maggot to me, along with the McCain replacement for chief *sshole, Mitt Romney.

And for all your praise of Trump, he failed with his selection of people in key positions.  Every one of those generals he was ensconced with was someone retained after the Obama purge, and who rose higher under Obama.  Huge mistake in my humble opinion.  Trump kept over 1,000 Obama appointees in their positions when he took office.  No mystery why we had leaks every day!  And Trump got burned by people he should have gotten rid of DAY ONE, starting with James Comey, who actively worked against Trump, and Wray hasn't been any better.  And Sessions and Barr, neither one of them worked to see justice return to Washington.  And frankly, when Trump said to leave Hillary alone, who is he to say to leave her alone in a nation that has been plagued with corruption at the highest levels, only to leave one of the worst offenders alone.  Let her face justice like Gen Flynn, and then if you want to pardon the b*tch, knock yourself out!

You can tell me how great Trump was all day, and that does not change the REALITY that he lost to a TRAITOR!!!  And unless Americans are starving to death, no one is going to rise up and do a damn thing.  There were actions being taken one year before the election, and Trump's team allowed the Dems to create laws and make decisions largely unchallenged in battleground states.  His so called team was not paying attention.

I have friends, staunch Republican friends that have given up, and said let Biden be POTUS.  I say if this is not all stopped, our republic is lost if the Dems sweep Georgia.  This week's election is for all the marbles.  Trump failed, and it is time to admit it.

On the subject of the H1-b Visa, I wrote the White House almost every day for 3.5 years pleading that they do something or to face losing hundreds of thousands of votes.  Finally, just a few months ago, Trump took token action.  It amounted to next to nothing.  It cost him votes in battleground states.  You can deny this, but it is true.  Every vote counted for a man that won narrowly last time.  In battleground states, his victories were narrow, and the tech votes he lost did in fact make a difference.  Yes, he got more votes, but he lost.  As the guy from Trafalgar said, he needed to post large numbers to overcome the cheating in battleground states.  Even the pollsters knew there would be cheating, for this was said before the election!!!!!!

The damage is done.  Trump, along with many including me had hoped SCOTUS would do their job.  They failed miserably.  Houston, we have serious problems, and short of an armed insurrection, I do not see a remedy.  And I do not see an armed insurrection on the horizon.  Now I have another friend who is telling me I am watching MSM too much.  I NEVER watch MSM.  But he thinks Americans will do just that.  I just do not see it.  Trump was repeatedly betrayed by his own party.  He will depart, and I believe he will not return.