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Can Texas Legally Secede From The Union?
« on: December 13, 2020, 01:04:45 am »
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Those opposed to Texas becoming an independent nation love to reach into their bag of misinformation and claim that it’s illegal for Texas, or any State, to leave the union. It’s time to set the record straight on Texit and show them to be either misinformed or liars of the highest order.

The following is an excerpt from the book TEXIT: Why and How Texas Will Leave The Union by Daniel Miller. Pick up a copy of this book that will answer all of your TEXIT questions and help you destroy the lies and myths perpetuated by those who are opposed to it.

A common accusation by those opposed to Texit is that the act of leaving the Union is illegal. Let’s be clear. An accusation of the commission of an illegal act implies that those committing it are criminals guilty of a criminal act. Therefore, this is not a light accusation.

When pressed, however, no one seems to be able to point to a specific law that forbids it. Scouring the federal statutes produces no joy for the accuser as there is no law that explicitly forbids any State from asserting its independence. Given the passion with which this accusation is leveled, if it is not found in federal law, then surely it must exist in Texas statute. After all, the State of Nevada included one of the most strongly worded prohibitions on secession in its state constitution.

“But the Paramount Allegiance of every citizen is due to the Federal Government in the exercise of all its Constitutional powers as the same have been or may be defined by the Supreme Court of the United States; and no power exists in the people of this or any other State of the Federal Union to dissolve their connection therewith or perform any act tending to impair, subvert, or resist the Supreme Authority of the government of the United States.”

However, there is no corresponding constitutional or statutory prohibition in Texas law, either.

It is a fundamental principle of American jurisprudence that something is illegal only if there is a law forbidding it. This is known as the legality principle, expressed in Latin as “nullum crimen sine lege, nulla poena sine lege,” meaning “no crime without law, nor punishment without law.”

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Re: Can Texas Legally Secede From The Union?
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2020, 01:17:43 am »
Whether or not Texas, or any other state, can "legally" secede is no longer a meaningful question.

Constitutional law essentially no longer exists here.  The only question is one of will.
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Re: Can Texas Legally Secede From The Union?
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2020, 01:21:04 am »
Does it really matter if it's legal or not?  It would be acceptable if it were a liberal state.  There is now obviously a different set of rules for conservatives and liberals.  Conservatives and conservative states have no standing and will be punished.



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Re: Can Texas Legally Secede From The Union?
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2020, 01:22:14 am »
Whether or not Texas, or any other state, can "legally" secede is no longer a meaningful question.

Constitutional law essentially no longer exists here.  The only question is one of will.

Exactly!
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Re: Can Texas Legally Secede From The Union?
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2020, 03:55:13 pm »
Whether or not Texas, or any other state, can "legally" secede is no longer a meaningful question.

Constitutional law essentially no longer exists here.  The only question is one of will.
Correct.

But there are legal avenues that might accomplish a similar purpose in different ways.

For More Than 150 Years, Texas Has Had the Power to Secede…From Itself
A quirk of a 19th-century Congressional resolution could allow Texas to split up into five states

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/more-150-years-texas-has-had-power-secede-itself-180962354/
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Re: Can Texas Legally Secede From The Union?
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2020, 03:58:51 pm »
Correct.

But there are legal avenues that might accomplish a similar purpose in different ways.

For More Than 150 Years, Texas Has Had the Power to Secede…From Itself
A quirk of a 19th-century Congressional resolution could allow Texas to split up into five states

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/more-150-years-texas-has-had-power-secede-itself-180962354/

The point of "legal succession" almosts becomes moot, when the one realizes the fact that this electoral steal event breaches the constitutional contract of representative  government.
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Re: Can Texas Legally Secede From The Union?
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2020, 09:16:15 pm »
Whether or not Texas, or any other state, can "legally" secede is no longer a meaningful question.

Constitutional law essentially no longer exists here.  The only question is one of will.

 :yowsa: That is certainly how I see it!

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Re: Can Texas Legally Secede From The Union?
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2020, 02:25:39 am »
Texas Nationalist President Talks #TEXIT 101 on WAOK-AM Atlanta w/Robert Patillo

 Texas Nationalist Movement 12/13/2020

Daniel Miller, President of the Texas Nationalist Movement, covered #TEXIT 101, lays out key points in the case for Texas independence and discussed why every state should be reconsidering their relationship with the federal government.


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