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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #225 on: December 03, 2020, 02:35:42 pm »
Again, researchers have all come to the same conclusion.

BS.


Only a small minority of scientists and politicians go the other way.

More BS.


Show me the emails please

You were already given data republished by the UN and peer reviewed by hundreds of researchers.  And conspicuously absent from this entire discussion is any evidence presented by you that backs up your claim of anthropogenic BS.
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #226 on: December 03, 2020, 02:37:08 pm »
Mark Thiessen,  in this morning's paper:

" Trump didn't lose the election because of a Cuban-Venezuelen-Chinese-Clinton-Soros conspiracy.  He lost because he alienated millions of voters who approved of his policies but did not vote for him because they were tired of chaos."

Funny,  I said something similar just the other day.  And from my vantage point -  the middle class suburbs - that result could be seen a mile away.  As Mr. Thiessen points out, "The facts speak for themselves:  In 2016,  Trump won suburban voters by 2 percentage points; in 2020 he lost them by 10.  This shift proved decisive in key swing states such as Michigan, Wisconsin,  Pennsylvania and Georgia."

Right on the mark.   The turn away from the GOP in the suburbs is the untold story of this election that needs to be addressed as soon as possible.   And in these parts,  Trump remains poison,  as he wildly challenges the election results and selfishly ignores the big picture:  two Senate seats in Georgia that, if lost, will prove the death knell for all those Trump policies that have restored prosperity even in the face of a pandemic.

Your theory works right up to the point that reality strikes and you realize that all of toss up seats and several Dem seats in the House flipped to Republican control.  We gains Republican majorities in more state governments as well. 

There wasn’t a turn away from the GOP in the suburbs. People in all social levels and skin color turned towards the GOP in this election. 

But it’s understandable this doesn’t compute with you...like all Liberals you totally misread the public and their outrage at the Dems at all levels the last four years and this last year specifically. 

The only poison around here is your tendentious line of thinking. 
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #227 on: December 03, 2020, 02:39:24 pm »
OMG!   STOP LYING ALREADY!

Große Lüge - just gotta tell it often enough.

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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #228 on: December 03, 2020, 02:42:10 pm »
OMG!   STOP LYING ALREADY!

He has to keep doing that to avoid the painful truth of this last election.
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #229 on: December 03, 2020, 02:47:56 pm »
Again, researchers have all come to the same conclusion.  Only a small minority of scientists and politicians go the other way.

That is a patently false statement. 

Not to mention there’s 30,000 scientists who have signed the Oregon Petition that would disagree with you.



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Show me the emails please

From the WSJ who reviewed the emails in question:

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Yet even a partial review of the emails is highly illuminating. In them, scientists appear to urge each other to present a "unified" view on the theory of man-made climate change while discussing the importance of the "common cause"; to advise each other on how to smooth over data so as not to compromise the favored hypothesis; to discuss ways to keep opposing views out of leading journals; and to give tips on how to "hide the decline" of temperature in certain inconvenient data.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748704888404574547730924988354
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #230 on: December 03, 2020, 03:05:04 pm »
It's not sanctimony.  These voters abandoned Trump because of his unfiltered, inflammatory rhetoric and his improvisational behavior.   

Really?  12 million more Americans voted to keep the President in office than voted in 2016 to put him there --- and you're still clinging to the jackassery that voters didn't know where and from who the chaos was coming. 

12 million more Americans let you know they understand full well that NT and Democrat obstructionists created bedlam for four years aimed at destroying our President.  Only you and your NT cohorts want to believe otherwise.

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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #231 on: December 03, 2020, 03:12:52 pm »
OMG!   STOP LYING ALREADY!
 

What lie,  sir?   The facts are,  as Mark Theissen said,  that Trump won the suburbs in 2016 and lost them in 2020,  and that is what made the difference (even as GOP candidates generally held their own).

Trump lost because folks are tired of the chaos.   And if you want to blame the Dems and the media for that, go right ahead - I would agree with you.

Both Trump and the Dems were essentially allied in stoking the chaos.   That's why I say Trump lost not because of fraud but because of intimidation.   Folks in the suburbs have too much at stake to put up with another four years of the shitshow.
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #232 on: December 03, 2020, 03:16:24 pm »
 

What lie,  sir?   The facts are,  as Mark Theissen said,  that Trump won the suburbs in 2016 and lost them in 2020,  and that is what made the difference (even as GOP candidates generally held their own).

Trump lost because folks are tired of the chaos.   And if you want to blame the Dems and the media for that, go right ahead - I would agree with you.

Both Trump and the Dems were essentially allied in stoking the chaos.   That's why I say Trump lost not because of fraud but because of intimidation.   Folks in the suburbs have too much at stake to put up with another four years of the shitshow.

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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #233 on: December 03, 2020, 03:28:34 pm »
Typical troll move.  Don’t engage the facts when your talking points/propaganda is exposed. 

http://www.ccfsh.org/climate/climate-change-hoax-collapses-as-michael-manns-bogus-hockey-stick-graph-defamation-lawsuit-dismissed-by-the-supreme-court-of-british-columbia/


Michael Mann used fraudulent data to create the graph.  There’s emails to prove it. 

Not that facts and truth matter to you.

Forget about it  Radio...  Arguing with the dumbass is pointless.
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #234 on: December 03, 2020, 03:45:51 pm »
Folks in the suburbs have too much at stake to put up with another four years of the shitshow.

Ummm yeah about that:

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Washington Post: Trump wasn’t just a rural phenomenon. Most of his supporters come from cities and suburbs.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/11/18/rural-city-trump-voters/%3foutputType=amp

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The 11 largest metropolitan areas in the United States gave Trump more total votes than all of rural America combined. In order of population, they are New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Dallas, Houston, D.C., Miami, Philadelphia, Atlanta, Boston and Phoenix.
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #235 on: December 03, 2020, 03:58:39 pm »
Forget about it  Radio...  Arguing with the dumbass is pointless.

Resorting to ad hominem attacks.  Illuminating.

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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #236 on: December 03, 2020, 04:07:45 pm »
Resorting to ad hominem attacks.  Illuminating.

It wasn't an attack, ad hominem or otherwise.  It was the truth.

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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #237 on: December 03, 2020, 04:25:58 pm »
It wasn't an attack, ad hominem or otherwise.  It was the truth.

Member does not know definition of ad hominem.  Suspicious for other logical fallacies.

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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #238 on: December 03, 2020, 04:30:46 pm »
Really?  12 million more Americans voted to keep the President in office than voted in 2016 to put him there --- and you're still clinging to the jackassery that voters didn't know where and from who the chaos was coming. 

12 million more Americans let you know they understand full well that NT and Democrat obstructionists created bedlam for four years aimed at destroying our President.  Only you and your NT cohorts want to believe otherwise.

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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #239 on: December 03, 2020, 04:34:34 pm »
Resorting to ad hominem attacks.  Illuminating.

Sorry for being so brutally honest....  Exhibit A....  Here is a quote and reponse from about your 30th post concerning your sources of news......  Again these are your words......

"A variety of places. Including places you would scoff at because its not solely epoch times, gateway pundit, or frontpage magazine.  Yes that means I'll read the WSJ, NYT, the atlantic, drudge, the AP, the economist, axios, the hill.  I know... im a sheep for listening to the lamestream media."

Anyone who samples the NYT, Atlantic, Drudge, AP as credible news sources?  You've  got to be kidding.    Thusly , sheeple like you bring their POV to  ridiculous left wing biased climate change arguments, among other left of center gibberish you have been bringing to this forum.
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #240 on: December 03, 2020, 04:52:36 pm »
Sorry guys, but.... I just don't have the patience to deal with the resident Trump-hating trolls and quacks.... whom I consider enemies of a free, "non-communist" America. 

More power to you guys that 'do' have enough patience to go round and round with the idiots.  You don't want to know what I would like to happen to them.    888mouth
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #241 on: December 03, 2020, 04:57:12 pm »
Resorting to ad hominem attacks.  Illuminating.

When all they've got is ad hominem attacks,  you know you're winning the argument.

Welcome to the board, btw, @Knox27 .   
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #242 on: December 03, 2020, 05:03:29 pm »
Sorry for being so brutally honest....  Exhibit A....  Here is a quote and reponse from about your 30th post concerning your sources of news......  Again these are your words......

"A variety of places. Including places you would scoff at because its not solely epoch times, gateway pundit, or frontpage magazine.  Yes that means I'll read the WSJ, NYT, the atlantic, drudge, the AP, the economist, axios, the hill.  I know... im a sheep for listening to the lamestream media."

Anyone who samples the NYT, Atlantic, Drudge, AP as credible news sources?  You've  got to be kidding.    Thusly , sheeple like you bring their POV to  ridiculous left wing biased climate change arguments, among other left of center gibberish you have been bringing to this forum.

Yes the places I listed are largely credible.  The op ed section, well, that's sometimes to be taken with a grain of salt.

I dont believe much of the drivel from OANN or NNN.  I know when I'm being lied to and manipulated.  I can be a republican and rational.  Its not an oxymoron.  I hope.  We are def the stupid party though.  It will cost us.

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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #243 on: December 03, 2020, 05:07:30 pm »
When all they've got is ad hominem attacks,  you know you're winning the argument.

Welcome to the board, btw, @Knox27 .

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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #244 on: December 03, 2020, 05:19:46 pm »
When all they've got is ad hominem attacks,  you know you're winning the argument.

Welcome to the board, btw, @Knox27 .

He's regurgiatated the AGW gibberish lies verbatim.  He hasn't won shit.

You?....   I see da trollz be stirrin'

Your whole schtick is unabated ultra-biased Trump hate.  Everybody knows that.
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« Reply #245 on: December 03, 2020, 06:14:50 pm »
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You?....   I see da trollz be stirrin'

Your whole schtick is unabated ultra-biased Trump hate.  Everybody knows that.

The only "unabashed hate"  around here is coming from the likes of you and other Trump lickspittles who cannot abide contrary opinions.    I have praised Trump's policies and his worker- centric vision for the GOP many times on this board.   Those policies,  and that vision, represent a viable future for our party.   It is the man himself and the chaos both he and the Dems feed off of that have alienated the suburbs.

I do not hate Donald Trump.  But one term as President is quite enough.
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #246 on: December 03, 2020, 06:49:14 pm »
He crossed his arms and huffed, his face reddening.

"Every knows its fake! They made up the data! Everyone knows! You're a sheep!  Ice cores!  Sunspots! "
Let's put it this way. In 1983, and again in the 1990s I worked in places where the official temperature was reported as -54 degrees Fahrenheit. (incidentally, that is the temperature where mercury solidifies). Unofficially, the temperature at one of those locations was -60, read on a 'spirit' thermometer that used alcohol instead of mercury. Those readings were verified in the official records when I could first access them on the internet, but have been since 'revised' upward to -50 degrees.
Such data revisions only serve to raise temperatures in the official record,which we are supposed to accept as proof that the planet is in some catastrophic warming cycle. If it is, it isn't humans, and the warming and cooling cycles in the past, where CO2 is a trailing indicator*, occurred without human intervention.
The only reason to suddenly blame humans for climate is to advance the concept of global control, something that can't be done without some boogeyman that threatens everyone equally. Of course, if you just send lots of money, that will help stabilize the planet's temperature, too.

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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #247 on: December 03, 2020, 07:06:13 pm »
The only "unabashed hate"  around here is coming from the likes of you and other Trump lickspittles who cannot abide contrary opinions.   

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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #248 on: December 03, 2020, 07:19:20 pm »
The only "unabashed hate"  around here is coming from the likes of you and other Trump lickspittles who cannot abide contrary opinions.    I have praised Trump's policies and his worker- centric vision for the GOP many times on this board.   Those policies,  and that vision, represent a viable future for our party.   It is the man himself and the chaos both he and the Dems feed off of that have alienated the suburbs.

I do not hate Donald Trump.  But one term as President is quite enough.

The only time you’ve praised anything Trump has done is when it fits your Liberal world view. Support for gay “marriage” bump stock ban red flag laws.  Things that are Liberal and unconstitutional at the same time...you’re all for it. 

The rest of the time you’ve tried to convince us Trump needs to step aside for a squish like Kasich or Jeb.

You been presented mounds of legal evidence to show where your positions are wrong and unconstitutional and like your new BFF you just keep repeating the same wrongheaded dogma.

And as as for ugly things said here...you’ve dished out more than your fair share of condescending insulting and at time downright hateful words here.

You have no room nor the right to pass judgment on anyone here when it comes to invective. 
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #249 on: December 03, 2020, 07:25:36 pm »
When all they've got is ad hominem attacks,  you know you're winning the argument.

Welcome to the board, btw, @Knox27 .

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