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Trump’s Flynn Pardon: Will the Judge Accept It?
« on: November 26, 2020, 03:44:38 pm »
Trump’s Flynn Pardon: Will the Judge Accept It?
Editorial of The New York Sun | November 25, 2020

Will Judge Emmet Sullivan accept President Trump’s pardon of General Michael Flynn? No one has suggested that possibility, other than The New York Sun. The general’s case, though, has become a bonfire of the vanities of one district judge who has denied the presumption of regularity to an official act of the United States government — meaning Attorney General William Barr’s attempt to drop the case.

So why would Judge Sullivan credit President Trump’s workaround of a pardon? We understand, the pardon could be the least fettered of all the powers that the Constitution grants to the president. That doesn’t guarantee that a runaway judge won’t ignore or reject a pardon. The pardon power, after all, is no more holy writ than the clause in Article III that limits the power of the courts to deciding actual cases and controversies.

The reason Mr. Trump pardoned General Flynn in the first place is because the District Judge in the case, Emmet Sullivan, is refusing to accept the government’s finding — on which prosecution and defense agree — that a case or controversy no longer exists. Instead, Judge Sullivan appointed an amicus lawyer to launch a whole new probe, this time against General Flynn and the Attorney General of the United States.

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Re: Trump’s Flynn Pardon: Will the Judge Accept It?
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2020, 04:01:34 pm »
It's a good question.  The Judge in AZ refused to accept Joe Arpaio's pardon.  I fully expect Sullivan to attempt it.
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Re: Trump’s Flynn Pardon: Will the Judge Accept It?
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2020, 04:04:58 pm »
From pardon to FBI director would be the prudent step.
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Re: Trump’s Flynn Pardon: Will the Judge Accept It?
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2020, 04:07:27 pm »
Also--I believe the separation of Sydney Powell from Trump's legal team was done to clear the air over any conflict of interest claim.
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Re: Trump’s Flynn Pardon: Will the Judge Accept It?
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2020, 04:41:07 pm »
If he doesn't, look for the Circuit Court of Appeals to step in and do it for him.  It is his superior.
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Re: Trump’s Flynn Pardon: Will the Judge Accept It?
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2020, 04:48:22 pm »
Quote from: IsailedawayfromFR on November 26, 2020, 04:41:07 pm
If he doesn't, look for the Circuit Court of Appeals to step in and do it for him.  It is his superior.

That's how it was done in AZ when the judge tried to deny the Pardon of Joe Arpaio.  The 9th Circus found for Arpaio.  The Circuit in this case (DC Circuit?) will regret denying Powell's motion to assign a new Judge, because it will soon be in their lap again.  It did not have to be this way.
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Re: Trump’s Flynn Pardon: Will the Judge Accept It?
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2020, 05:09:38 pm »
Frankly, I kind of hope Sullivan tries to ignore the pardon, since it would be grounds for impeachment (even some House Ds might vote to impeach a judge who tries to violate a clear and unequivocal provision of the Constitution). OTOH, for the sake of Flynn and his family I hope Sullivan drops his vendetta against Flynn.
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Re: Trump’s Flynn Pardon: Will the Judge Accept It?
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2020, 11:41:16 pm »
"Trump’s Flynn Pardon: Will the Judge Accept It?"

I don't think this [prejudiced, affirmative action] "judge" has any choice.
The presidential power of the pardon "Trumps" any ruling he can make o'er Mr. Flynn...

Addendum:
PeteS wrote:
"Frankly, I kind of hope Sullivan tries to ignore the pardon, since it would be grounds for impeachment (even some House Ds might vote to impeach a judge who tries to violate a clear and unequivocal provision of the Constitution)"

NOT A CHANCE the democrat-communists are gonna impeach "one of theirs" for trying to "violate" the Constitution.
I would reckon the demo-commies are gonna do plenty of that themselves, as soon as they get the opportunity...!
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Re: Trump’s Flynn Pardon: Will the Judge Accept It?
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2020, 02:17:52 am »
You hit the nail squarely on the head Fishrrman. :yowsa:
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Re: Trump’s Flynn Pardon: Will the Judge Accept It?
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2020, 04:11:03 am »
Judge Alcee Hastings was impeached by a Dem House and removed by a Dem Senate.  But that was back before the Dems went full fascist.
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Re: Trump’s Flynn Pardon: Will the Judge Accept It?
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2020, 03:11:00 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on November 27, 2020, 04:11:03 am
Judge Alcee Hastings was impeached by a Dem House and removed by a Dem Senate.  But that was back before the Dems went full fascist.

Hasting got caught taking a bribe.  He proved that Democrats, on the whole, are A-OK with bribery when he was elected to Congress....
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