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The Courts Will Likely Overturn the Election Results In Numerous Jurisdictions Due to Voter Fraud – In the Data Is Where the Amount of Election Fraud Can Be Quantified and Estimated
By Joe Hoft
Published November 17, 2020 at 7:20am

Voter fraud occurred across the board in the 2020 election and in every functional area.  But in the data is where we’re able to locate and quantify or estimate much of the amount of election fraud which occurred in the 2020 election.

The 2020 election steal occurred in all areas.  Before the election votes were mass-mailed and many of these votes we now are finding were illegitimate (i.e. dead people voting, etc…).  Many other illegitimate votes came in after the election as those involved in the theft hurried to get enough votes counted to steal the election.  Then the vote counting process was manipulated and against the law as Republican vote counting observers were not allowed to observe the process.  The courts will and should overturn the results of the election connected to this voter fraud.

But ultimately we can quantify the steal in the data reported from the system.  All the corruption in the election with ballots and the process surrounding that are a distraction per one former Law Enforcement Officer on Twitter:

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Article said: "The 2020 election steal occurred in all areas.  Before the election votes were mass-mailed and many of these votes we now are finding were illegitimate (i.e. dead people voting, etc…).  Many other illegitimate votes came in after the election as those involved in the theft hurried to get enough votes counted to steal the election.  Then the vote counting process was manipulated and against the law as Republican vote counting observers were not allowed to observe the process.  The courts will and should overturn the results of the election connected to this voter fraud."
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The above is the kind of words I hear after every election, and they are wrong.

The biggest claim is always dead people voting.  Dead people are removed from master voting list in a county.  A county gets a death certificate notice when a person dies in their county.  If the dead person is on the voter list, it is removed.  I think this claim is left over from many, many years ago, when this did happen.  Also, the State Secretary of State, gets all death notices - their records lists every person who died in the state.  The Secretary of State is responsible for the State Master Voter List and that name is removed from the official voter list. 

"Many other illegitimate votes came in after the election as those involved in the theft hurried to get enough votes counted to steal the election."

This above charge is absolute bovine scatology.  Does not happen.  Except for Military Ballots and mail ballots in some states that allow mail ballots to come in after election day if they are postmarked no later than election day, no ballots by themselves come in after election day. 

"Republican vote counting observers were not allowed to observe the process."

Not true.  Some people think a person can just walk in from the street and "observe" areas where mail ballots are being evaluated or where counting machines are.  A person must have a document that states this person is a legal poll watcher, in order to be in  Central Counting.  Also, there are Republican election workers and Democrat election workers.  Almost impossible for a county to have only Democrats running an election and keeping Republicans out.

It is my opinion this bogus article should be removed from this board.

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Article said: "The 2020 election steal occurred in all areas.  Before the election votes were mass-mailed and many of these votes we now are finding were illegitimate (i.e. dead people voting, etc…).  Many other illegitimate votes came in after the election as those involved in the theft hurried to get enough votes counted to steal the election.  Then the vote counting process was manipulated and against the law as Republican vote counting observers were not allowed to observe the process.  The courts will and should overturn the results of the election connected to this voter fraud."
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The above is the kind of words I hear after every election, and they are wrong.

The biggest claim is always dead people voting.  Dead people are removed from master voting list in a county.  A county gets a death certificate notice when a person dies in their county.  If the dead person is on the voter list, it is removed.  I think this claim is left over from many, many years ago, when this did happen.  Also, the State Secretary of State, gets all death notices - their records lists every person who died in the state.  The Secretary of State is responsible for the State Master Voter List and that name is removed from the official voter list. 

"Many other illegitimate votes came in after the election as those involved in the theft hurried to get enough votes counted to steal the election."

This above charge is absolute bovine scatology.  Does not happen.  Except for Military Ballots and mail ballots in some states that allow mail ballots to come in after election day if they are postmarked no later than election day, no ballots by themselves come in after election day. 

"Republican vote counting observers were not allowed to observe the process."

Not true.  Some people think a person can just walk in from the street and "observe" areas where mail ballots are being evaluated or where counting machines are.  A person must have a document that states this person is a legal poll watcher, in order to be in  Central Counting.  Also, there are Republican election workers and Democrat election workers.  Almost impossible for a county to have only Democrats running an election and keeping Republicans out.

It is my opinion this bogus article should be removed from this board.

Lol....  you really don't want to know what my opinion of your opinion is.   :smokin:
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Article said: "The 2020 election steal occurred in all areas.  Before the election votes were mass-mailed and many of these votes we now are finding were illegitimate (i.e. dead people voting, etc…).  Many other illegitimate votes came in after the election as those involved in the theft hurried to get enough votes counted to steal the election.  Then the vote counting process was manipulated and against the law as Republican vote counting observers were not allowed to observe the process.  The courts will and should overturn the results of the election connected to this voter fraud."
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The above is the kind of words I hear after every election, and they are wrong.

The biggest claim is always dead people voting.  Dead people are removed from master voting list in a county.  A county gets a death certificate notice when a person dies in their county.  If the dead person is on the voter list, it is removed.  I think this claim is left over from many, many years ago, when this did happen.  Also, the State Secretary of State, gets all death notices - their records lists every person who died in the state.  The Secretary of State is responsible for the State Master Voter List and that name is removed from the official voter list. 

"Many other illegitimate votes came in after the election as those involved in the theft hurried to get enough votes counted to steal the election."

This above charge is absolute bovine scatology.  Does not happen.  Except for Military Ballots and mail ballots in some states that allow mail ballots to come in after election day if they are postmarked no later than election day, no ballots by themselves come in after election day. 

"Republican vote counting observers were not allowed to observe the process."

Not true.  Some people think a person can just walk in from the street and "observe" areas where mail ballots are being evaluated or where counting machines are.  A person must have a document that states this person is a legal poll watcher, in order to be in  Central Counting.  Also, there are Republican election workers and Democrat election workers.  Almost impossible for a county to have only Democrats running an election and keeping Republicans out.

It is my opinion this bogus article should be removed from this board.

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It's not over until Trump concedes .... I don't know what lawsuits if any are still viable, but Giuliani was absolutely the worst person he could have chosen to spearhead overturning the election.

He should have asked Ted - yes I've said it before, I know, but his experience and knowledge (Bush v. Gore) should have been Trump's first clue.
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The biggest claim is always dead people voting.

The biggest claims this election are in regards to mail-in ballot harvesting, corrupt election workers running stacks of ballots through machines multiple times, and malware planted in machine software that fractionalized and manipulated vote totals.  Your claim is untrue.


Dead people are removed from master voting list in a county.

Lawsuit: 21,000 dead people were on Pa. voter rolls before Election Day
A little over 12,000 of those were listed as active voters[/b]

The updated complaint noted that as of Oct. 7, more than 9,000 of the registered voters had died five years ago, 1,990 died 10 years ago and about 197 registrants had been dead for more than 20 years.


Clearly, county workers have ignored your instructions, and have been negligent in removing deceased individuals from voter rolls.


"Many other illegitimate votes came in after the election as those involved in the theft hurried to get enough votes counted to steal the election."

This above charge is absolute bovine scatology.  Does not happen.

In Georgia yesterday, another 38 votes were added to Joe Biden's total.  It has been 14 days since the election.  It has been ten days since the deadline for receiving military ballots.  Yet Biden's vote total continues to rise.  In the last seven days, Biden has gained almost 2,400 votes in Georgia.  And he has done so after every single deadline has passed, and after every county reported their vote totals complete.

So yes, it does happen.  Your claim is false.


"Republican vote counting observers were not allowed to observe the process."

Not true.  Some people think a person can just walk in from the street and "observe" areas where mail ballots are being evaluated or where counting machines are.  A person must have a document that states this person is a legal poll watcher, in order to be in  Central Counting.

Here is a city-wide watchers certificate for the City of Philadelphia:



And here is a video of the person (to whom that certificate was issued) being denied access to a polling place.

https://twitter.com/willchamberlain/status/1323616167769055234?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1323616167769055234%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.breitbart.com%2Fpolitics%2F2020%2F11%2F03%2Fthe-steal-is-on-in-pennsylvania-poll-watchers-denied-access-illegal-campaigning-at-polling-locations%2F

Your claim is again false.


Also, there are Republican election workers and Democrat election workers.  Almost impossible for a county to have only Democrats running an election and keeping Republicans out.

Almost.  Yet it happens.


It is my opinion this bogus article should be removed from this board.

You really want your bogus post removed from this board?
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It's not over until Trump concedes .... I don't know what lawsuits if any are still viable, but Giuliani was absolutely the worst person he could have chosen to spearhead overturning the election.

He should have asked Ted - yes I've said it before, I know, but his experience and knowledge (Bush v. Gore) should have been Trump's first clue.

Couldn't agree more..
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According to @Victoria33 , no one ever exceeds the speed limit because there are rules against speeding.
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“ It is my opinion this bogus article should be removed from this board.”

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It's not over until Trump concedes .... I don't know what lawsuits if any are still viable, but Giuliani was absolutely the worst person he could have chosen to spearhead overturning the election.

He should have asked Ted - yes I've said it before, I know, but his experience and knowledge (Bush v. Gore) should have been Trump's first clue.

Do you know if Cruz offered his services to the campaign, even on a consultancy basis? @libertybele

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According to @Victoria33 , no one ever exceeds the speed limit because there are rules against speeding.

Rather than targeting a fellow briefer, perhaps consider the expertise and experience she has.

Trump is also depending on Giuliani to lead this crusade .... how do y'all think that's going to turn out?
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Rather than targeting a fellow briefer, perhaps consider the expertise and experience she has.

Trump is also depending on Giuliani to lead this crusade .... how do y'all think that's going to turn out?

Just fine, if he’s got the goods and finds an impartial judge. Isn’t that the way it normally works?

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Trump legal team zeroes in on expulsion of election observers, data irregularities
Just the News, Nov 17, 2020, John Solomon

President Trump's campaign legal team has beefed up with several senior lawyers as it prepares to challenge hundreds of thousands of votes cast in Democratic stronghold cities like Detroit and Philadelphia without required GOP observers, arguing the expulsions created disparate treatment or unequal protection of voters in violation of the Constitution.

The team led by former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani and longtime Trump private lawyer Jay Sekulow has been expanded to include former Justice Department officials Victoria Toensing and Sidney Powell, former U.S. Attorney Joseph diGenova and trusted campaign lawyer Jenna Ellis.

Paul Clement, a George W. Bush administration solicitor general with a strong record of arguing in front of the Supreme Court, would likely argue any cases that reached the nine justices, officials told Just the News. 

The lawyers are prepared to argue that votes that were counted on election night and the day after without GOP observers present in Democrat-led cities should be thrown out because they were tainted by a process that was left open to fraud and abuse and illegally treated voters differently in various jurisdictions. The Trump campaign lawyers have identified 680,000-plus votes in Pennsylvania and about 250,000 in Michigan they believe fall into the category.

To augment the case, the lawyers are securing affidavits and declarations from citizens who allege:  [...]

The request to discount large numbers of votes is a high legal and political hurdle to surmount, but it is not without precedent. In the last year, North Carolina threw out an entire special congressional election in its 9th District after evidence emerged that mail-in ballots were tainted by a ballot harvesting scheme tied to a GOP operative. And in New Jersey, a state judge earlier this year ordered new municipal election in Patterson, N.J., after evidence of ballot fraud emerged.

Both cases involve mail-in ballots, which are at the heart of the Trump campaign's arguments that rule changes by state officials — not approved by their legislatures as required by the Constitution — coupled with the exclusion of bipartisan vote count observers created election irregularities in parts of Michigan, Pennsylvania and other states that violate the equal protection clause of the Constitution.


More: https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/tue-am-trump-legal-team-zeroes-expulsion-election-observers-data

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Rather than targeting a fellow briefer, perhaps consider the expertise and experience she has.

Please stop.  Responding to is not targeting.   

And folks do consider @Victoria33 expertise and experience.  What seems to be lacking is relevance.  What used to be the norm is simply no longer, especially in this election.



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Rather than targeting a fellow briefer, perhaps consider the expertise and experience she has.

@libertybele

I deeply respect her experience in this matter.  But I am aghast at her naiveté.  Simply citing the correct procedures does not constitute proof that those procedures are being followed.  @Victoria33 's stipulation for well over a week now has been that election fraud is impossible because of all these procedures that are allegedly in place.  I beg to differ.  See details in my previous response.
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Do you know if Cruz offered his services to the campaign, even on a consultancy basis? @libertybele

I have no idea. Regardless, if I were Trump I would take a look around and select or at least ask the person who's been down this road before and has argued more SCOTUS cases than anyone seated in Congress. Trump knows his record (or at least should). Ted has publicly made it known that he sees a path to victory (I posted the article) -- and he sure as heck wouldn't have said it if he didn't mean it.

Giuliani his NY buddy doesn't exactly have the best track record and there have been a couple of times recently where Trump would have been better off had his pal kept his mouth shut. 

Trump has far surpassed my expectations and has succeeded against incredible odds, but his downfall has been not surrounding himself with those people whose experience and expertise he would benefit from; with Giuliani being one of them.

A little late in the game to shift gears, I'd say.
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@libertybele

I deeply respect her experience in this matter.  But I am aghast at her naiveté.  Simply citing the correct procedures does not constitute proof that those procedures are being followed.  @Victoria33 's stipulation for well over a week now has been that election fraud is impossible because of all these procedures that are allegedly in place.  I beg to differ.  See details in my previous response.

Yes, I get where your coming from --- the fraud and corruption from the left should not be overlooked or underestimated.
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Rather than targeting a fellow briefer, perhaps consider the expertise and experience she has.

Trump is also depending on Giuliani to lead this crusade .... how do y'all think that's going to turn out?

Expertise and experience that has not, obviously, kept her from being 100% wrong re: "her opinion".
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Expertise and experience that has not, obviously, kept her from being 100% wrong re: "her opinion".

Well ... let's hope that we'll read a new headline that reads "Courts ARE overturning the election results" rather than courts will "Likely" overturn the election results.

We need a definitive ruling from the courts that the election results have been overturned in Trump's favor.

So far all we have are a lot of carrots being dangled in front of us with no results ... Giuliani has been spewing the same story for a couple of days and stories coming in of fraud and corruption.  Trump and the American people need action not promises of action.
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Well ... let's hope that we'll read a new headline that read "Courts ARE overturning the election results" rather than courts will "Likely" overturn the election results.
Oh come on now! @libertybele  Stop being so pessimistic!
They are going to overturn results due to obvious fraud and mishandling of ballots FIRST THING "TOMORROW" man.
Have some faith. Apparently this never ending amorphous 'tomorrow' thing is going to "change the world!"
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Oh come on now! @libertybele  Stop being so pessimistic!
They are going to overturn results due to obvious fraud and mishandling of ballots FIRST THING "TOMORROW" man.
Have some faith. Apparently this never ending amorphous 'tomorrow' thing is going to "change the world!"

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Please stop. Responding to is not targeting.   

And folks do consider @Victoria33 expertise and experience.  What seems to be lacking is relevance.  What used to be the norm is simply no longer, especially in this election.

I stand corrected.
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Guiliani does not have the best track record?  What the hell are you talking about?  As a litigator, he has a fierce reputation.

As a mayor, he did a great job in New York of changing that city of crime.

Bottomline, Trump has a team of lawyers who together should present a powerful case.  With the software issues, I see the court overturning the results of this criminally conducted election effort for Biden.  This treason will not go without a serious effort to address it.

If the court fails to do the right thing, we could well have armed insurrection and uprising unparalleled in our history.