Election 2020 Legal Updates

[XenaLee]

Stealin it!   

[DCPatriot]

Stealin it!   

 

[Smokin Joe]

37 votes. The "Kraken" allegation is that this is being done in numbers big enough to change the winner. 37 votes doesn't qualify.

NO, not 37 votes. 37 of 200 ballots test fed into the machine. RTFA, for Christ's sake.

Now if 37 votes from Trump are flipped to Biden, Trump suffers a 37 vote loss, Biden a 37 vote gain, that is a difference of 74 votes. (out of 200 ballots).

Now, divide a million ballots by 200. You should get 5000. Multiply by 74. You should get 370,000.
For every million ballots counted with the same software in the machine, Trump would lose 370,000 votes.

I don't really give a rabid rat's ass what you think, but that is evidence that massive fraud is completely plausible, probable, considering other unusual parameters, and Trump may not have been the only candidate thus affected in Georgia--he is just the only one we're looking at. The Senate Election may have been gimmicked as well.

AFAIK, this is the only instance of a test group of ballots (in this case, 100 for each candidate) being run through the machines and then hand counted. The results were stunning enough that the test group of ballots was run twice, and hand counted twice, with the SAME result. That isn't a glitch, it is programmed in, because a glitch would likely not have been perfectly repeatable. 

My previous post, with links for your convenience.

I read your previous post, and frankly, I believe ALL of those methods were used, in the event that one form of fraud or another in specific locations was discovered. That gives the segments of fraud a severability that ensures that while some may be discovered and even remedied in some places, the overwhelming majority of the fraud would go through claimed to be legitimate, which would be enough to carry the contest.

As for flipping votes, it took a little digging to find this, especially since much on fecebook and twatter is being purged.

Link to press release: https://voterga.files.wordpress.com/2020/12/press-release-dominion-system-flips-trump-votes-to-biden-in-ga-county-1.pdf

Press release index page: https://voterga.org/press-releases/

Home page of the organization: https://voterga.org/

This information in the press release has been posted on this site before,, reported by other sources.

https://georgiastarnews.com/2020/12/05/trump-legal-team-witness-alleged-that-ware-county-audit-results-revealed-dominion-machine-flipped-ballots-from-trump-to-biden/ Hand recount showed flipped votes for Biden.

[sneakypete]

@sneakypete - here's a story about it. If I see the actual list, I will make another post with the link.

https://www.ibtimes.sg/leaked-files-reveal-hundreds-ccp-members-are-working-inside-big-companies-government-agencies-54154

@BassWrangler


Thanks!

[BassWrangler]

NO, not 37 votes. 37 of 200 ballots test fed into the machine. RTFA, for Christ's sake.

Now if 37 votes from Trump are flipped to Biden, Trump suffers a 37 vote loss, Biden a 37 vote gain, that is a difference of 74 votes. (out of 200 ballots).

Now, divide a million ballots by 200. You should get 5000. Multiply by 74. You should get 370,000.
For every million ballots counted with the same software in the machine, Trump would lose 370,000 votes.

I don't really give a rabid rat's ass what you think, but that is evidence that massive fraud is completely plausible, probable, considering other unusual parameters, and Trump may not have been the only candidate thus affected in Georgia--he is just the only one we're looking at. The Senate Election may have been gimmicked as well.

AFAIK, this is the only instance of a test group of ballots (in this case, 100 for each candidate) being run through the machines and then hand counted. The results were stunning enough that the test group of ballots was run twice, and hand counted twice, with the SAME result. That isn't a glitch, it is programmed in, because a glitch would likely not have been perfectly repeatable. 

My previous post, with links for your convenience.

I did read the article (PDF). I just went back and read it again, and it said 37 votes out of the 14,192 in the county. The word "200" does not even appear in the article.

[BassWrangler]

@BassWrangler


Thanks!

@sneakypete - looks like data is in Chinese (which I guess one would expect), but I did also read that there is an effort to translate it using crowdsourcing. I'm really interested to see how many work for my employer.

[skeeter]

NO, not 37 votes. 37 of 200 ballots test fed into the machine. RTFA, for Christ's sake.

Now if 37 votes from Trump are flipped to Biden, Trump suffers a 37 vote loss, Biden a 37 vote gain, that is a difference of 74 votes. (out of 200 ballots).

Now, divide a million ballots by 200. You should get 5000. Multiply by 74. You should get 370,000.
For every million ballots counted with the same software in the machine, Trump would lose 370,000 votes.

I don't really give a rabid rat's ass what you think, but that is evidence that massive fraud is completely plausible, probable, considering other unusual parameters, and Trump may not have been the only candidate thus affected in Georgia--he is just the only one we're looking at. The Senate Election may have been gimmicked as well.

AFAIK, this is the only instance of a test group of ballots (in this case, 100 for each candidate) being run through the machines and then hand counted. The results were stunning enough that the test group of ballots was run twice, and hand counted twice, with the SAME result. That isn't a glitch, it is programmed in, because a glitch would likely not have been perfectly repeatable. 

My previous post, with links for your convenience.

BTW a Michigan judge has ordered the release of the report of the Antrim County Dominion machine analysis.

The SoS is hand wringing about it being 'misleading', so it should be interesting to see what it contains.

[BassWrangler]

BTW a Michigan judge has ordered the release of the report of the Antrim County Dominion machine analysis.

The SoS is hand wringing about it being 'misleading', so it should be interesting to see what it contains.

OH, that is great news. They were really fighting the release. Can't wait to see it.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Sydney's lawsuit included a sworn affadavit from what even the NYT says

“Keshavarz-Nia, those who worked with him said, ‘was always the smartest person in the room,’” the Times reported
NY Times previously praised Dr. Navid Keshavarz-Nia, one of Sidney Powell’s Kraken experts
https://noqreport.com/2020/11/27/ny-times-previously-praised-dr-navid-keshavarz-nia-one-of-sidney-powells-kraken-experts/

And here's another 'technologically naive' person

Allied Security Operations Group
Antrim Michigan Forensics
Report REVISED PRELIMINARY SUMMARY, v2
Report Date 12/13/2020

WHO WE ARE
1.My name is Russell James Ramsland, Jr., and I am a resident of Dallas County,Texas. I hold an MBA from Harvard University, and a political science degree from Duke University. I have worked with the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), among other organizations, and have run businesses all over the world, many of
which are highly technical in nature. I have served on technical government panels.
2.I am part of the management team of Allied Security Operations Group, LLC, (ASOG). ASOG is a group of globally engaged professionals who come from various disciplines to include Department of Defense, Secret Service, Department of Homeland Security, and the Central Intelligence Agency. It
provides a range of security services, but has a particular emphasis on cybersecurity, open source investigation and penetration testing of networks. We employ a wide variety of cyber and cyber forensic analysts. We have patents pending in a variety of applications from novel network security applications to SCADA (Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition) protection and safe browsing
solutions for the dark and deep web. For this report, I have relied on these experts and resources.
B.PURPOSE AND PRELIMINARY CONCLUSIONS
1.The purpose of this forensic audit is to test the integrity of Dominion Voting System in how it performed in Antrim County, Michigan for the 2020 election.
2.We conclude that the Dominion Voting System is intentionally and purposefully designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and influence election results. The system intentionally generates an enormously high number of ballot errors. The electronic ballots are then transferred for adjudication. The intentional errors lead to bulk adjudication of ballots with no oversight, no transparency, and no audit trail. This leads to voter or election fraud. Based on our study, we
conclude that The Dominion Voting System should not be used in Michigan. We further conclude that the results of Antrim County should not have been certified.
3.The following is a breakdown of the votes tabulated for the 2020 election in Antrim County, showing different dates for the tabulation of the same votes.
Date Registered Voters Total Votes Cast Biden Trump Third Party Write-In TOTAL VOTES for President
Nov3    22,082                     16,047     7,769  4,509      145         14              12,423
Nov 5   22,082                     18,059     7,289  9,783      255         20              17,327
Nov 21 22,082                     16,044     5,960  9,748      241         23              15,949
4.The Antrim County Clerk and Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson have stated that the election night error (detailed above by the vote "flip" from Trump to Biden,was the result of human error caused by the failure to update the Mancelona Township tabulator prior to election night for a down ballot race. We disagree and conclude that the vote flip occurred because of machine error built into the voting
software designed to create error.
5.Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson's statement on November 6, 2020 that "[t]the correct results always were and continue to be reflected on the tabulator totals tape . . . ." was false.
6.The allowable election error rate established by the Federal Election Commission guidelines is of 1 in 250,000 ballots (.0008%). We observed an error rate of 68.05%. This demonstrated a significant and fatal error in security and election integrity.
7.The results of the Antrim County 2020 election are not certifiable. This is a result of machine and/or software error, not human error.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zberuyi1klkpah3/Antrim_michigan_forensics_report_121320_redacted.pdf?dl=0

What I want to see is an audit that was performed prior to this election on these machines.

If there is not one, then the election overseer should be immediately fired.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Greg Kelly
@gregkellyusa

US Constitution Article II Sec 1: The “President-elect” is NOT ESTABLISHED TODAY, but when the votes are “counted” by the “President of the Senate” which doesn’t happen until JANUARY. Then, “The Person with greatest number of votes SHALL be the President.” LAW vs MEDIA? Law Wins!



1:25 PM · Dec 14, 2020·Twitter for iPad

https://twitter.com/gregkellyusa/status/1338550595800723456

[Right_in_Virginia]

Michelle Ye Hee Lee
@myhlee

Meanwhile, in another part of the GA State Capitol, 16 GOP electors cast ballots for Trump, declaring that "the contest of the election is ongoing." Photo via @HaistenWillis, who's reporting from the room.



12:32 PM · Dec 14, 2020·Twitter Web App

https://twitter.com/myhlee/status/1338537446838071304

[BassWrangler]

That County versus votes number really illustrates that there was foul play.

[BassWrangler]

And here's another 'technologically naive' person

Still floating that straw man argument, I see. Do you not have anything better to do than continue to make snide comments like that? Perhaps you should "sail on back", as that kind of petty personal attack is more at home elsewhere.

[BassWrangler]

Michelle Ye Hee Lee
@myhlee

Meanwhile, in another part of the GA State Capitol, 16 GOP electors cast ballots for Trump, declaring that "the contest of the election is ongoing." Photo via @HaistenWillis, who's reporting from the room.



12:32 PM · Dec 14, 2020·Twitter Web App

https://twitter.com/myhlee/status/1338537446838071304

This is the alternate slate of electors that Stephen Miller mentioned (see article linked below). It keeps Trump's path open through January 20.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/12/14/stephen-miller-donald-trump-allowed-contest-election-january-20/

[Right_in_Virginia]

Michelle Ye Hee Lee
@myhlee

Meanwhile, in another part of the GA State Capitol, 16 GOP electors cast ballots for Trump, declaring that "the contest of the election is ongoing." Photo via @HaistenWillis, who's reporting from the room.



12:32 PM · Dec 14, 2020·Twitter Web App

https://twitter.com/myhlee/status/1338537446838071304

David Shafer
@DavidShafer

Because the President’s lawsuit contesting the Georgia election is still pending, the Republican nominees for Presidential Elector met today at noon at the State Capitol today and cast their votes for President and Vice President.


12:51 PM · Dec 14, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

https://twitter.com/DavidShafer/status/1338542161932021762

David Shafer
@DavidShafer

Had we not meet today and cast our votes, the President’s pending election contest would have been effectively mooted. Our action today preserves his rights under Georgia law.


1:07 PM · Dec 14, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

https://twitter.com/DavidShafer/status/1338546066346676224

[Right_in_Virginia]

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Still floating that straw man argument, I see. Do you not have anything better to do than continue to make snide comments like that? Perhaps you should "sail on back", as that kind of petty personal attack is more at home elsewhere.

Straight from your own posts:

The Kraken allegations are that votes are subtracted from one candidate and added to another in an amount significant to change the outcome. This doesn't seem to be the case.

In fact, I suspect the Kraken theory was planted by leftists so that technologically naive Trump supporters, like Sidney Powell, would start repeating it and in doing so discredit themselves.


Straw man?  Personal attacks?

Nope, just to set the record straight for a Never-Kraken.

[Right_in_Virginia]

anonymous patriot
@anonpatriotq

BREAKING: TRUMP'S ELECTORS ARE SHOWING UP TODAY IN STATE CAPITALS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY (WAR ROOM PANDEMIC)

10:13 AM · Dec 14, 2020·Twitter Web App

https://twitter.com/anonpatriotq/status/1338502411229532161

anonymous patriot
@anonpatriotq

This means two sets of Electors (for a particular state) will be sent to Congress in January. It is then more or less up to Pence which to count (or to throw out both sets). That is my understanding of the current process.

10:17 AM · Dec 14, 2020·Twitter Web App

https://twitter.com/anonpatriotq/status/1338503459696488448

[Right_in_Virginia]

RSBN
@RSBNetwork

BREAKING: Nevada GOP electors cast ballot for Donald J Trump declaring him winner of 6 Electoral votes in NV.

2:26 PM · Dec 14, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

https://twitter.com/RSBNetwork/status/1338566122904428544

[BassWrangler]

Straight from your own posts:

The Kraken allegations are that votes are subtracted from one candidate and added to another in an amount significant to change the outcome. This doesn't seem to be the case.

In fact, I suspect the Kraken theory was planted by leftists so that technologically naive Trump supporters, like Sidney Powell, would start repeating it and in doing so discredit themselves.


Straw man?  Personal attacks?

Nope, just to set the record straight for a Never-Kraken.

You're misunderstanding my comment. I am certainly not suggesting that Trump supporters are as a general rule technologically naive. As I said a few posts back, I am a Trump supporter and don't consider myself technologically naive (I have several degrees in a field of engineering). I was specifically referring to Sydney Powell, who said she was relying on what others told be because she didn't understand the math. at the time she was referring to this professor Shiva, who was positing a theory you don't hear about anymore because it was laughably wrong. Basically he had created graphs of what was effectively Y-X versus X, and then was claiming that the fact that these graphs all had a perfect slope of -1 was evidence of fraud. I've seen this guy before, and he's a complete buffoon. He goes around claiming to be the Inventor of email (he's not). The only reason Sydney fell for this is because math and technology are not her strong suit. Hence the comment. She's a brilliant lawyer, just neither a mathematician nor a related vocation that involves a lot of math (I.e. an engineer or scientist).

You are twisting this comment to imply I was asserting that all Trump supporters are technologically naive. You can deny it, but it's obvious. It's petty, and small-minded. Exactly the kind of nonsense that is why I am here instead of FR.

[DCPatriot]

RSBN
@RSBNetwork

BREAKING: Nevada GOP electors cast ballot for Donald J Trump declaring him winner of 6 Electoral votes in NV.

2:26 PM · Dec 14, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

https://twitter.com/RSBNetwork/status/1338566122904428544

Sometimes you have to run to see who will run after you.
Sometimes you have to talk softer to see who really listens to you.
Sometimes you have to take a step back to see who else is on your side.
Sometimes you have to make the wrong decisions to see who is with you
when everything is falling apart.

[XenaLee]

RSBN
@RSBNetwork

BREAKING: Nevada GOP electors cast ballot for Donald J Trump declaring him winner of 6 Electoral votes in NV.

2:26 PM · Dec 14, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

https://twitter.com/RSBNetwork/status/1338566122904428544

So.... where are we electoral count wise?   I had to go out and just returned.   Are we winning?

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

So.... where are we electoral count wise?   I had to go out and just returned.   Are we winning?

Those electors aren't certified I think. They can vote for who they like.

[BassWrangler]

So.... where are we electoral count wise?   I had to go out and just returned.   Are we winning?

I've seen reports of alternate slate of electors in Nevada (6), Georgia (16), and Pennsylvania (20). Anyone know the status in Arizona, Michigan, and Wisconsin?

[BassWrangler]

Those electors aren't certified I think. They can vote for who they like.

Right (see articles above). But what it does do is keep the possibility of lawsuits open.