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Re: Election 2020 Legal Updates
« Reply #425 on: November 18, 2020, 09:39:53 pm »
Sometime in the near future,after Biden is sworn in and Trump is forced to concede.

They said the same thing in 2000.  They were wrong.
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Re: Election 2020 Legal Updates
« Reply #426 on: November 18, 2020, 09:58:42 pm »
They said the same thing in 2000.  They were wrong.

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And I am sincerely hoping they are wrong this time.

The difference is THIS time the left took Trump seriously,and have been working hard behind the scenes with their RINO pals like Mittens,to destroy him.
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Re: Election 2020 Legal Updates
« Reply #427 on: November 18, 2020, 10:40:38 pm »
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And I am sincerely hoping they are wrong this time.

The difference is THIS time the left took Trump seriously,and have been working hard behind the scenes with their RINO pals like Mittens,to destroy him.

Mitch included ... if y'all recall Mitch and others vowed that Trump would be a one term President.  Before Trump was sworn in he met with Mitch and a few others, trying to smooth things over.  Mitch didn't do Trump or the Senate any favors until McCain passed.

Trump succeeded against all odds.  Unfortunately, the swamp was deeper than he ever imagined . 

It sickens me how he was treated and the thankless aholes that tried to destroy him while he brought American exceptionalism back to the forefront are dancing in the streets right now, but mark my words ... once Biden and cronies start implementing their globalist/socialist agenda people are going to cry foul, but by then it will be too late.
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Re: Election 2020 Legal Updates
« Reply #428 on: November 18, 2020, 10:55:28 pm »
Mitch included ... if y'all recall Mitch and others vowed that Trump would be a one term President.  Before Trump was sworn in he met with Mitch and a few others, trying to smooth things over.  Mitch didn't do Trump or the Senate any favors until McCain passed.

Trump succeeded against all odds.  Unfortunately, the swamp was deeper than he ever imagined . 

It sickens me how he was treated and the thankless aholes that tried to destroy him while he brought American exceptionalism back to the forefront are dancing in the streets right now, but mark my words ... once Biden and cronies start implementing their globalist/socialist agenda people are going to cry foul, but by then it will be too late.

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Of course. He is an outsider,and he came in and upset a LOT of apple carts shared by the RINO's and their Dim partners-in-crime. It that isn't punished,they would have to start living on their paychecks.

We can't have that,can we?
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Re: Election 2020 Legal Updates
« Reply #429 on: November 18, 2020, 11:25:59 pm »
@aligncare

No doubt.

Sometime in the near future,after Biden is sworn in and Trump is forced to concede.

Be kinda a mute decision by that time,but that's the way the baby bounces,right?

I suspect large numbers of Trump voters (cheated out of their president—Harrumph!) would turn out to physically back up Trump if he said I’m not leaving here until we count every legal vote! (It’s an ego thing). And I’d indulge him that. He’s been attacked, denigrated, investigated, defamed, denied the accolades of a damn good presidency—if you count success in the economy, military preparedness without the forever wars, establishment of the Space Force, loosening some of the tangle of regulations, pushing back on globalization and especially China, little things like that.

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Re: Election 2020 Legal Updates
« Reply #430 on: November 18, 2020, 11:26:39 pm »
Mitch included ... if y'all recall Mitch and others vowed that Trump would be a one term President.  Before Trump was sworn in he met with Mitch and a few others, trying to smooth things over.  Mitch didn't do Trump or the Senate any favors until McCain passed.

Trump succeeded against all odds.  Unfortunately, the swamp was deeper than he ever imagined . 

It sickens me how he was treated and the thankless aholes that tried to destroy him while he brought American exceptionalism back to the forefront are dancing in the streets right now, but mark my words ... once Biden and cronies start implementing their globalist/socialist agenda people are going to cry foul, but by then it will be too late.

In fact, nothing has changed. Moderate Republicans and their socialism by corporation globalism is still at the levers of power in the senate, sharing power with liberal Pelosi and the globalism through communism via the UN crowd.

No perp walk... no rolling heads... no lasting conservative laws enacted... no vital reconstruction of anything that would actually preserve us... Nothing rolled back.. SOSDD.


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Re: Election 2020 Legal Updates
« Reply #431 on: November 18, 2020, 11:30:18 pm »
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BREAKING: WI Elections Commission, after seeing President Trump’s recount petition and objections, is trying to change the recount manual at an emergency meeting tonight at 6 pm to make objections harder to make. This must be stopped.— Andrew Hitt (@AndrewHittGOP) November 18, 2020

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Re: Election 2020 Legal Updates
« Reply #432 on: November 18, 2020, 11:37:10 pm »


Just what are they trying to hide?

Can you say ELECTION FRAUD!

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Re: Election 2020 Legal Updates
« Reply #433 on: November 18, 2020, 11:48:06 pm »
I suspect large numbers of Trump voters (cheated out of their president—Harrumph!) would turn out to physically back up Trump if he said I’m not leaving here until we count every legal vote! (It’s an ego thing). And I’d indulge him that. He’s been attacked, denigrated, investigated, defamed, denied the accolades of a damn good presidency—if you count success in the economy, military preparedness without the forever wars, establishment of the Space Force, loosening some of the tangle of regulations, pushing back on globalization and especially China, little things like that.

@aligncare

Trump has been by FAR the most effective pro-American president of the 20th Century,and unlike Comrade Roosevelt,he didn't even have to get us involved in a world war to do it.
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Re: Election 2020 Legal Updates
« Reply #434 on: November 19, 2020, 01:26:39 am »
In fact, nothing has changed. Moderate Republicans and their socialism by corporation globalism is still at the levers of power in the senate, sharing power with liberal Pelosi and the globalism through communism via the UN crowd.

No perp walk... no rolling heads... no lasting conservative laws enacted... no vital reconstruction of anything that would actually preserve us... Nothing rolled back.. SOSDD.


Can you hear me now???
Yes, in a way I agree. No one in orange jumpsuits who should be, and that's a cryin' shame.

But now, more than ever, we know who they are.
They went so all out to attack Trump, that they broke cover.
Whether that amounts to a hill of beans really depends on us.
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Re: Election 2020 Legal Updates
« Reply #435 on: November 19, 2020, 01:28:42 am »

hanges made to the manual after the election should not be enforced for results prior to those changes. Can you say ex post facto? Exoneration of slop and criminality after the fact should not render the offenses carried out while other rules were in effect moot, any more than changing the rules to make things criminal which were not should have an effect on  past events.
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Re: Election 2020 Legal Updates
« Reply #436 on: November 19, 2020, 01:34:17 am »
BREAKING: WI Elections Commission, after seeing President Trump’s recount petition and objections, is trying to change the recount manual at an emergency meeting tonight at 6 pm to make objections harder to make. This must be stopped.— Andrew Hitt (@AndrewHittGOP) November 18, 2020
Let's just throw the entire thing in the toilet as that is what it is worth.
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Re: Election 2020 Legal Updates
« Reply #437 on: November 19, 2020, 01:35:25 am »
Yes, in a way I agree. No one in orange jumpsuits who should be, and that's a cryin' shame.

But now, more than ever, we know who they are.
They went so all out to attack Trump, that they broke cover.
Whether that amounts to a hill of beans really depends on us.

I knew who they are all along. The Democrats ain't the enemy. GOVERNMENT is the enemy. Conservative 101.

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Re: Election 2020 Legal Updates
« Reply #438 on: November 19, 2020, 01:37:38 am »
I knew who they are all along. The Democrats ain't the enemy. GOVERNMENT is the enemy. Conservative 101.
There have been those on both sides of the aisle, sure, and we knew that, but I'm talking about agency perfidy, and some of those (not enough) have been cleaned out. It's the RINO slow walking that has stopped many from prosecution, and I'd wager that;s because the ones who should have been doing the perp walk have 'goods' on the rest.
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Re: Election 2020 Legal Updates
« Reply #439 on: November 19, 2020, 01:42:08 am »
There have been those on both sides of the aisle, sure, and we knew that, but I'm talking about agency perfidy, and some of those (not enough) have been cleaned out. It's the RINO slow walking that has stopped many from prosecution, and I'd wager that;s because the ones who should have been doing the perp walk have 'goods' on the rest.

Crank that up another notch... The problem is that the government is powerful enough for such shenannigans to matter in the first place. One head of the hydra or the other, or the other, or the other... It don't matter a whit until enough folks are willing to cut it's throats and seal them with fire, putting this federal behemoth back in its Constitutional box.

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« Reply #440 on: November 19, 2020, 01:49:36 am »
Crank that up another notch... The problem is that the government is powerful enough for such shenannigans to matter in the first place. One head of the hydra or the other, or the other, or the other... It don't matter a whit until enough folks are willing to cut it's throats and seal them with fire, putting this federal behemoth back in its Constitutional box.
:beer: I'm with you on that. I'd wager three fourth would be a good start, but still not enough of a cut to put the genie back in the bottle.
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Re: Election 2020 Legal Updates
« Reply #441 on: November 19, 2020, 01:52:55 am »
Tonight:  Wisconsin Election Commission Meeting

https://wiseye.org/2020/11/18/wisconsin-elections-commission-special-teleconference-meeting-13/

They are trying to change the rules AFTER Trump paid for recounts in Dane and Milwaukee counties
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Re: Election 2020 Legal Updates
« Reply #442 on: November 19, 2020, 01:54:02 am »
:beer: I'm with you on that. I'd wager three fourth would be a good start, but still not enough of a cut to put the genie back in the bottle.

That is why my arguments always winnow down to libertarianism and fiscal conservatism - The very core of American Conservatism... And why anything less is a waste of time.

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Re: Election 2020 Legal Updates
« Reply #443 on: November 19, 2020, 01:58:46 am »
That is why my arguments always winnow down to libertarianism and fiscal conservatism - The very core of American Conservatism... And why anything less is a waste of time.
Short of conquest or similar sudden change, I don't see us getting that in one shot. The change has been incremental over 160 years, and while the change back should not take that long, it won't all happen at once, short of some serious overthrow of what is in place. Unfortunately the Communists are waiting for just such an opportunity to move globalist forces in and take advantage of that.
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Re: Election 2020 Legal Updates
« Reply #444 on: November 19, 2020, 02:03:05 am »
Democrat on the panel is using Covid as an excuse to break the rules.  She says that if anyone has a problem with that, they can go to court and get a court order that makes them follow the law.
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« Reply #445 on: November 19, 2020, 02:05:00 am »
Democrat on the panel is using Covid as an excuse to break the rules.  She says that if anyone has a problem with that, they can go to court and get a court order that makes them follow the law.
Interesting that no one has brought up changing the physical layout of the counting rooms to accommodate people, nor the idea of putting the actions of the individual re-counters up on screen where they could be seen by an observer at a distance from the person doing the counting.
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Re: Election 2020 Legal Updates
« Reply #446 on: November 19, 2020, 02:08:30 am »
Interesting that no one has brought up changing the physical layout of the counting rooms to accommodate people, nor the idea of putting the actions of the individual re-counters up on screen where they could be seen by an observer at a distance from the person doing the counting.

I think that they didn't expect Trump to fork over the cash, and now that he has, they realize they are screwed.  So they are trying to change the rules ex post facto.

Live feed:  https://wiseye.org/2020/11/18/wisconsin-elections-commission-special-teleconference-meeting-13/
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Re: Election 2020 Legal Updates
« Reply #447 on: November 19, 2020, 02:17:07 am »
I think that they didn't expect Trump to fork over the cash, and now that he has, they realize they are screwed.  So they are trying to change the rules ex post facto.

Live feed:  https://wiseye.org/2020/11/18/wisconsin-elections-commission-special-teleconference-meeting-13/
I'm listening in. They just killed the motion to not let health departments decrees interfere with observers. 3-3 tie, motion failed.
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Re: Election 2020 Legal Updates
« Reply #448 on: November 19, 2020, 02:18:58 am »
Commission members:

Marge Bostelmann
Secretary
Green Lake
5/1/2024
Governor
Republican Party

Julie M. Glancey
Commissioner
Sheboygan Falls
5/1/2021
Governor
Democratic Party

Ann S. Jacobs
Chair
Milwaukee
5/1/2021
Senate Minority Leader
Democratic Party

Dean Knudson
Commissioner
Hudson
5/1/2024
Assembly Speaker
Republican Party

Robert F. Spindell, Jr.
Commissioner
Milwaukee
5/1/2021
Senate Majority Leader
Republican Party

Mark L. Thomsen
Vice-Chair
Milwaukee
5/1/2024
Assembly Minority Leader
Democratic Party
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Re: Election 2020 Legal Updates
« Reply #449 on: November 19, 2020, 02:26:42 am »
Dem. Commissioner Glancey playing the victim card.
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.

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"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."

-Ayn Rand-