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Re: Election 2020 Legal Updates
« Reply #375 on: November 17, 2020, 04:41:50 pm »
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Imagine being a reporter in a Washington, DC newsroom 2,500 miles away from Vegas and trying to convince people only one race on a long ballot had discrepancies - and that all the other races were fine.

It’s the same ballot, Aaron!

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Because unlike some people's misleading tweets, they aren't throwing out the ballots. They are valid ballots; it's just that the race is so close and there are enough discrepancies (139) and sometimes they redo local elections.

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Here's a link to the Nevada story they're referring to: 

Voter discrepancies cause Nevada's largest county to throw out one local race
Just the News, Nov 17, 2020

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/discrepancies-clark-county-nevada-election-highlight-potential-voter

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Re: Election 2020 Legal Updates
« Reply #376 on: November 17, 2020, 04:55:57 pm »
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Trump legal team zeroes in on expulsion of election observers, data irregularities
Just the News, Nov 17, 2020, John Solomon

President Trump's campaign legal team has beefed up with several senior lawyers as it prepares to challenge hundreds of thousands of votes cast in Democratic stronghold cities like Detroit and Philadelphia without required GOP observers, arguing the expulsions created disparate treatment or unequal protection of voters in violation of the Constitution.

The team led by former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani and longtime Trump private lawyer Jay Sekulow has been expanded to include former Justice Department officials Victoria Toensing and Sidney Powell, former U.S. Attorney Joseph diGenova and trusted campaign lawyer Jenna Ellis.

Paul Clement, a George W. Bush administration solicitor general with a strong record of arguing in front of the Supreme Court, would likely argue any cases that reached the nine justices, officials told Just the News. 

The lawyers are prepared to argue that votes that were counted on election night and the day after without GOP observers present in Democrat-led cities should be thrown out because they were tainted by a process that was left open to fraud and abuse and illegally treated voters differently in various jurisdictions. The Trump campaign lawyers have identified 680,000-plus votes in Pennsylvania and about 250,000 in Michigan they believe fall into the category.

To augment the case, the lawyers are securing affidavits and declarations from citizens who allege:  [...]

The request to discount large numbers of votes is a high legal and political hurdle to surmount, but it is not without precedent. In the last year, North Carolina threw out an entire special congressional election in its 9th District after evidence emerged that mail-in ballots were tainted by a ballot harvesting scheme tied to a GOP operative. And in New Jersey, a state judge earlier this year ordered new municipal election in Patterson, N.J., after evidence of ballot fraud emerged.

Both cases involve mail-in ballots, which are at the heart of the Trump campaign's arguments that rule changes by state officials — not approved by their legislatures as required by the Constitution — coupled with the exclusion of bipartisan vote count observers created election irregularities in parts of Michigan, Pennsylvania and other states that violate the equal protection clause of the Constitution.


More: https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/tue-am-trump-legal-team-zeroes-expulsion-election-observers-data

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The request to discount large numbers of votes is a high legal and political hurdle to surmount, but it is not without precedent. In the last year, North Carolina threw out an entire special congressional election in its 9th District after evidence emerged that mail-in ballots were tainted by a ballot harvesting scheme tied to a GOP operative. And in New Jersey, a state judge earlier this year ordered new municipal election in Patterson, N.J., after evidence of ballot fraud emerged.

Add this to the precedents:  (The Presidential candidates were included on the ballots thrown out)

Voter discrepancies cause Nevada's largest county to throw out one local race
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/discrepancies-clark-county-nevada-election-highlight-potential-voter

Nevada:  pointing-down

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 you have to suspend common sense to believe fraud only happened on one race of a long ballot.

They didn’t have faith in their election - there were too many discrepancies. They threw out 150k ballots over 10 cases? Absurd.

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Re: Election 2020 Legal Updates
« Reply #377 on: November 17, 2020, 04:57:41 pm »
The hypocrisy of the RL is, as usual, stunning.   You would think we'd be used to seeing it by now....but it never fails to amaze me.   
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Re: Election 2020 Legal Updates
« Reply #378 on: November 17, 2020, 05:05:43 pm »
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The request to discount large numbers of votes is a high legal and political hurdle to surmount, but it is not without precedent. In the last year, North Carolina threw out an entire special congressional election in its 9th District after evidence emerged that mail-in ballots were tainted by a ballot harvesting scheme tied to a GOP operative. And in New Jersey, a state judge earlier this year ordered new municipal election in Patterson, N.J., after evidence of ballot fraud emerged.

Add this to the precedents:  (The Presidential candidates were included on the ballots thrown out)

Voter discrepancies cause Nevada's largest county to throw out one local race
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/discrepancies-clark-county-nevada-election-highlight-potential-voter

Nevada:  pointing-down

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 you have to suspend common sense to believe fraud only happened on one race of a long ballot.

They didn’t have faith in their election - there were too many discrepancies. They threw out 150k ballots over 10 cases? Absurd.

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Big victory moments ago in the State of Nevada. The all Democrat County Commissioner race, on same ballot as President, just thrown out because of large scale voter discrepancy. Clark County officials do not have confidence in their own election security. Major impact!

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Re: Election 2020 Legal Updates
« Reply #379 on: November 17, 2020, 05:08:16 pm »
Sidney Powell Outlines Affidavit Showing Purpose of SmartMatic Voting System to Control Elections…
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/11/17/sidney-powell-outlines-affidavit-showing-purpose-of-smartmatic-voting-system-to-control-elections/
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Re: Election 2020 Legal Updates
« Reply #380 on: November 17, 2020, 10:12:42 pm »
Sidney Powell Outlines Affidavit Showing Purpose of SmartMatic Voting System to Control Elections…
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/11/17/sidney-powell-outlines-affidavit-showing-purpose-of-smartmatic-voting-system-to-control-elections/

That's great, but it won't be enough. The states aren't going to overturn an election based on possibilities, no matter how suspicious the data is. The Trump team needs hard evidence, and if they don't have it and aren't on a path to get it quickly, they should drop this challenge.

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Re: Election 2020 Legal Updates
« Reply #381 on: November 17, 2020, 10:43:07 pm »
That's great, but it won't be enough. The states aren't going to overturn an election based on possibilities, no matter how suspicious the data is. The Trump team needs hard evidence, and if they don't have it and aren't on a path to get it quickly, they should drop this challenge.


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Re: Election 2020 Legal Updates
« Reply #382 on: November 17, 2020, 10:52:07 pm »
That's great, but it won't be enough. The states aren't going to overturn an election based on possibilities, no matter how suspicious the data is. The Trump team needs hard evidence, and if they don't have it and aren't on a path to get it quickly, they should drop this challenge.

That’s where affidavits, exhibits and witness testimony comes in, I think.

Well, they aren’t knowingly presenting an empty vessel to the court. They are experienced litigators, with combined decades of experience bringing and winning cases. They must have what they believe is solid evidence.

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« Reply #383 on: November 17, 2020, 10:58:47 pm »
I have confidence in Sidney Powell.  She is a no nonsense attorney.

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Re: Election 2020 Legal Updates
« Reply #384 on: November 17, 2020, 11:29:24 pm »
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It would be so cool if she not only got the Biden result overturned, but got Maduro's overturned as well.
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Re: Election 2020 Legal Updates
« Reply #385 on: November 17, 2020, 11:31:17 pm »
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« Reply #386 on: November 17, 2020, 11:44:18 pm »
In court, Giuliani argues to block Biden win in Pennsylvania

 Rudy Giuliani, President Donald Trump's personal attorney, returned to federal court Tuesday after a long hiatus to accuse Democrats in control of big cities of hatching a nationwide conspiracy to steal the election, even though no such evidence has emerged in the two weeks since Election Day.

The court case is over the Trump campaign's federal lawsuit seeking to prevent Pennsylvania officials from certifying the vote results.

Lawyers defending the Democratic secretary of state, Philadelphia and several counties said the Trump campaign's arguments lack any constitutional basis or were rendered irrelevant by a state Supreme Court decision Tuesday.

They asked U.S. District Judge Matthew Brann to throw out the case, calling the allegations "at best, garden-variety irregularities" that would not warrant throwing out Pennsylvania's election results, which delivered a victory for President-elect Joe Biden.

Giuliani, the former New York City mayor, baselessly asserted there was a wide-ranging scheme to steal the election from Trump in big cities in Pennsylvania and 10 other places.

"The best description of this situation is widespread, nationwide voter fraud, of which this is a part. ... This is not an isolated case, this is a case that is repeated in at least 10 other jurisdictions," Giuliani said.

The dozens of affidavits Trump's lawyers filed in the case, however, do not assert widespread fraud, but rather the potential for something fishy to occur because partisan poll watchers weren't given an opportunity to view the results.

Tuesday's hearing focused on the Trump campaign's request for a temporary restraining order, as well as Democrats' request to have the case dismissed. Giuliani — who had not argued a case in federal court since 1992, according to online court filings — asked Brann to let him put on evidence to back up his claims.

Trump's campaign has not been shy in previous weeks about publicizing what they say is evidence of election fraud. Brann has scheduled a hearing for Thursday to hear evidence — if he decides against dismissing the case.

There is no evidence of widespread fraud in the 2020 election, and experts say Trump's various lawsuits have no chance of reversing the outcome in a single state, let alone the election. In fact, officials of both political parties have stated publicly that the election went well, and international observers confirmed there were no serious irregularities...............

https://www.startribune.com/trump-campaign-lawsuit-over-pennsylvania-vote-heads-to-court/573099261/
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Re: Election 2020 Legal Updates
« Reply #387 on: November 18, 2020, 12:37:02 am »
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The recent statement by Chris Krebs on the security of the 2020 Election was highly inaccurate, in that there were massive improprieties and fraud - including dead people voting, Poll Watchers not allowed into polling locations, “glitches” in the voting machines which changed...

...votes from Trump to Biden, late voting, and many more. Therefore, effective immediately, Chris Krebs has been terminated as Director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency.


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« Reply #388 on: November 18, 2020, 01:04:13 am »
So I get a text this evening from some Democrat group asking if I want to join the team to get Warnock elected.  I'm bored, so I text back "YES".  They then send me a link for ordering a mail-in ballot.  I answered back that someone had already come by and picked up the ballot.

Their response?  -  "Great!"

They then asked if I would be willing to get three other people to request ballots.


Try telling me ballot harvesting isn't taking place in Georgia.
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« Reply #389 on: November 18, 2020, 01:34:54 am »
Just received a call asking whether I planned to voted in person, early voting, mail-in voting, or not at all.  The number traced back to an aide for Sen. Chris Van Hollen.  It is a violation of federal law for a federal employee to use their office to engage in political activity.

btw, I received these same calls before the Nov. election.  I think they are using them to determine whose ballots they can harvest.
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« Reply #390 on: November 18, 2020, 01:36:50 am »
Just received a call asking whether I planned to voted in person, early voting, mail-in voting, or not at all.  The number traced back to an aide for Sen. Chris Van Hollen.  It is a violation of federal law for a federal employee to use their office to engage in political activity.

btw, I received these same calls before the Nov. election.  I think they are using them to determine whose ballots they can harvest.

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« Reply #391 on: November 18, 2020, 01:38:20 am »
The FBI would be the last people on the planet I would call.  Better luck getting help from the KGB.
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Re: Election 2020 Legal Updates
« Reply #392 on: November 18, 2020, 01:44:03 am »
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After presenting 234 pages of sworn affidavits raising allegations of fraud in Wayne County, Michigan voting, the Wayne County Board of Canvassers has DECLINED to certify their portion of the Michigan vote.

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Deadlocked Wayne County Board of Canvassers fails to certify election results
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« Reply #393 on: November 18, 2020, 01:44:40 am »
The FBI would be the last people on the planet I would call.  Better luck getting help from the KGB.

Post it all over twitter and FB if you have an account
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« Reply #394 on: November 18, 2020, 01:45:34 am »
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The recent statement by Chris Krebs on the security of the 2020 Election was highly inaccurate, in that there were massive improprieties and fraud - including dead people voting, Poll Watchers not allowed into polling locations, “glitches” in the voting machines which changed...

...votes from Trump to Biden, late voting, and many more. Therefore, effective immediately, Chris Krebs has been terminated as Director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency.


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« Reply #395 on: November 18, 2020, 01:45:47 am »
The FBI would be the last people on the planet I would call.  Better luck getting help from the KGB.

Then call the Trump legal team....
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« Reply #397 on: November 18, 2020, 01:47:31 am »
Notify the White House.
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« Reply #398 on: November 18, 2020, 02:09:11 am »
Then call the Trump legal team....

I just sent it to my recount contact.
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« Reply #399 on: November 18, 2020, 04:14:09 am »
Election Data Team to Call 1.25 Million Voters Over Anomalies in 6 Contested States

Charlotte Cuthbertson November 13, 2020 Updated: November 15, 2020

.  .  .  In Georgia, the team found 17,877 early or absentee voters who had filed out-of-state move notices—a higher number than the current vote differential in the state. The current vote tally in Georgia, as of 1 p.m. on Nov. 13, shows Democratic nominee Joe Biden ahead of Trump by 14,164 votes.

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger has called for a recount and audit of the presidential race in his state, which began on Nov. 13 and is expected to conclude at midnight on Nov. 18. Georgia is required to certify its election results by Nov. 20.

Braynard’s team has also found conflicting out-of-state move notices and votes cast with 7,426 Pennsylvania voters, 6,254 Wisconsin voters, 5,145 Nevada voters, 5,084 Arizona voters, and 1,688 Michigan voters.

So far, they’ve confirmed 631 double-voters in Pennsylvania and 987 in Nevada—and that’s before they’ve checked the Election Day in-person voting information.  .  .  .

https://www.theepochtimes.com/election-data-team-to-call-1-25-million-voters-over-anomalies-in-6-contested-states_3578114.html



After an audit is performed, I would fully expect the total number of votes cast to reflect the disqualification of these 17,877 illegal votes.  But I have zero confidence that Raffensperger will take action purge them since he chose not to order an audit.
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