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Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: If Trump defies polls again 'my profession is done'
« Reply #25 on: October 25, 2020, 12:15:15 am »
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Like/dislike are not my measures; they're character and wisdom;
of which neither noun Trump can even spell,
It's an opinion forum and you're entitled.
I'm not an entrepreneur and never gamble,
so find someone else to wager with.

You've already wagered.

You've stated flatly that Trump will lose and anyone who thinks otherwise is of lower intellect. So you've bet both your credibility and intellect on it already.

I was just offering lower stakes.

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Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: If Trump defies polls again 'my profession is done'
« Reply #26 on: October 25, 2020, 01:32:35 am »
You've already wagered.
You've stated flatly that Trump will lose and anyone who thinks otherwise is of lower intellect. So you've bet both your credibility and intellect on it already.
I was just offering lower stakes.
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This "wager" is between your ears.
I've neither expressed nor implied anything about the intellect of Trump's supporters.
Lastly, I'm uninterested in any wager, got it?

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Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: If Trump defies polls again 'my profession is done'
« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2020, 02:14:11 am »
I'd argue that the violent cancel culture Dems have made pollsters useless. They've weaponized everything. And a good number of people are seething at what they've done.

YES.  :thumbsup:

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Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: If Trump defies polls again 'my profession is done'
« Reply #28 on: October 25, 2020, 05:18:20 am »
Democrats highly insulted Ronald Reagan's intelligence often, yet the democrats kept losing, whose intelligent ?  Democrats insulted Donald Trump's intelligence often, who won the last election?
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Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: If Trump defies polls again 'my profession is done'
« Reply #29 on: October 25, 2020, 05:23:44 am »
Democrats highly insulted Ronald Reagan's intelligence often, yet the democrats kept losing, whose intelligent ?  Democrats insulted Donald Trump's intelligence often, who won the last election?
 Those who keep making the same mistakes the same way expecting a different answer-INSANE,
stubborn lock-steppers not too bright 22222frying pan

They have that mental disorder.   888high58888

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Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: If Trump defies polls again 'my profession is done'
« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2020, 11:32:28 am »
Democrats highly insulted Ronald Reagan's intelligence often, yet the democrats kept losing, whose intelligent ?  Democrats insulted Donald Trump's intelligence often, who won the last election?
 Those who keep making the same mistakes the same way expecting a different answer-INSANE,
stubborn lock-steppers not too bright 22222frying pan

The democrats allowed themselves to go on record of wanting to take this country over the socialist cliff.  The Biden moderate ruse is failing miserably..
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Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: If Trump defies polls again 'my profession is done'
« Reply #31 on: October 25, 2020, 05:58:51 pm »
How I see Luntz and other pollsters

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Does that make me a bad person?


Or is it all the other things :pondering:

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Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: If Trump defies polls again 'my profession is done'
« Reply #32 on: October 26, 2020, 05:59:47 pm »
The pollsters will fail once more.  For those that ask how they could be wrong, the answer is simple.  They are DISHONEST and NOT CREDIBLE!  It is not a mystery that they are generated largely from a media with no intent to be honest and forthright. 

Our media is making Soviet era Russian media look honest by comparison.  The difference between the two is that in Soviet era Russia, anyone stepping out of line was shot or disappeared, and in  the USA, our media choose to be dishonest with the people and mislead them on what is happening and what is truth.  It is all about manipulation.  These pollsters believe their lies will dissuade voters with a conservative mindset from voting.

The UGLY TRUTH for left bat sh*t crazy lunatics is that Donald Trump has unified the American people that have traditional values of country, family, and life.  The Democommies have demonstrated their desire to destroy the country, family and life.  The differences between the two could not be more stark.  I'll take President Trump's vision of America all day long over these lunatics.

With Comey Barrett on the Supreme Court, we have a 5-4 court that supports the Trump vision for America.  Roberts cannot be trusted for anything that is part of that vision.  But the pendulum has swung with her appointment to the court.  And the decisions they make over the next year or two will potentially send this country into another civil war that is encouraged by all our enemies.

But they are not going away by any means.  They will not think they failed at what they do, and they will continue as they have in the past because of WHO pays their checks.  Corrupt men like George Soros is heavily involved in funding these pollsters to lie to the American people.  It is not difficult to manufacture a poll that says anything he would want.  When you look at the small print, when did you EVER see more Republicans being surveyed than Democommies?  NEVER!!!!  And even the numbers they indicate, who is to say they are accurate?  I trust no one in the media business.  NO ONE!!!

TRUMP TSUNAMI  -  40 ELECTORAL STATES IN 2020

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Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: If Trump defies polls again 'my profession is done'
« Reply #33 on: October 26, 2020, 06:32:55 pm »
How I see Luntz and other pollsters

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Does that make me a bad person?


Or is it all the other things :pondering:


Luntz's focus group stuff is pretty interesting. I trust that more than polling.

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Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: If Trump defies polls again 'my profession is done'
« Reply #34 on: October 26, 2020, 06:32:57 pm »
I don't like Trump.

But I believe you are wrong on this. We'll have to wait until after the election to know who was right.

You say you don't gamble. Any entrepreneur gambles. It is the nature of balancing risk to reward.

I'll make you this wager: If Trump wins you don't post for a week. If Biden wins I won't post for a week.

List what you don't like about POTUS.  Something valid, not left, lying, media propaganda.  Are you a male?

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Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: If Trump defies polls again 'my profession is done'
« Reply #35 on: October 26, 2020, 06:36:03 pm »
Luntz's focus group stuff is pretty interesting. I trust that more than polling.

Don't trust either.  I told you, Luntz was outed being a LEFTIST.  His townhall people, are all demon-rats and preprogrammed.  ZERO HONESTY. 

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Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: If Trump defies polls again 'my profession is done'
« Reply #36 on: October 26, 2020, 06:40:12 pm »
Don't trust either.  I told you, Luntz was outed being a LEFTIST.  His townhall people, are all demon-rats and preprogrammed.  ZERO HONESTY.

They liked Trump in the last debate though.

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Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: If Trump defies polls again 'my profession is done'
« Reply #37 on: October 26, 2020, 06:49:43 pm »
They liked Trump in the last debate though.

I didn't see that.  Thanks. 

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Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: If Trump defies polls again 'my profession is done'
« Reply #38 on: October 26, 2020, 07:17:57 pm »
Well Frank, you and your other douchetard pollster buddies create these ridiculous voter samples that will never happen on election day, so you can use polls to shape, rather than reflect public opinion.

Then you get pummeled on election day and act like you never seen it coming. What did you expect?
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Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: If Trump defies polls again 'my profession is done'
« Reply #39 on: October 26, 2020, 08:05:06 pm »
Don't trust either.  I told you, Luntz was outed being a LEFTIST.  His townhall people, are all demon-rats and preprogrammed.  ZERO HONESTY.

Luntz is not a leftist.  Just defensive that his field and occupation have been upended by a new norm.  That new norm being that people do not trust outsiders when discussing political positions in fear of doxxing or other SJW activist reprisals.  What pollsters really need to report is the number of people who fail to particpate now, versus say the past.
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Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: If Trump defies polls again 'my profession is done'
« Reply #40 on: October 26, 2020, 08:52:42 pm »
POTUS TRUMP...won electoral college and popular vote too.   Lefts love to push that lie, that TRUMP did not win popular vote.  That is not correct,  even with ILLEGALS voting and voter fraud.  POTUS WON BOTH.  POPULAR AND ELECTORAL COLLEGE OVER HILLARY.  Going by memory.  POTUS 323 ELECTORAL COLLEGE, TO HILLARY'S 207. 
WHY DO THEY LOVE REPEATING ALL THOSE LEFT PROPAGANDA TALKING POINTS?
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Final Popular Vote in 2016 was:
Hilarity...65,853,515
Trump....62,984,825
By subtraction, the Hilarity margin was 2,868,791 votes.
Suggest you get acquainted w/Arithmetic.

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Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: If Trump defies polls again 'my profession is done'
« Reply #41 on: October 26, 2020, 09:06:27 pm »
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Final Popular Vote in 2016 was:
Hilarity...65,853,515
Trump....62,984,825
By subtraction, the Hilarity margin was 2,868,791 votes.
Suggest you get acquainted w/Arithmetic.




And most of those votes were on the "coasts". California in particular. Good thing we are a Republic and not a Democracy or New York and Cali would rule the country, don't you think? Geography is also an interesting subject.

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Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: If Trump defies polls again 'my profession is done'
« Reply #42 on: October 26, 2020, 09:10:40 pm »
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Final Popular Vote in 2016 was:
Hilarity...65,853,515
Trump....62,984,825
By subtraction, the Hilarity margin was 2,868,791 votes.
Suggest you get acquainted w/Arithmetic.

She's factoring in the cheating that happened (so it is, admittedly, an untidy guess), and you are being obtuse by quoting meaningless popular vote numbers.  That's dishonest, and you know it.

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Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: If Trump defies polls again 'my profession is done'
« Reply #43 on: October 26, 2020, 09:12:25 pm »
Geography is also an interesting subject.

It certainly is, a good companion subject along with the US Constitution.  I think he has his Ancient History down pat.
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Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: If Trump defies polls again 'my profession is done'
« Reply #44 on: October 26, 2020, 09:29:46 pm »
It certainly is, a good companion subject along with the US Constitution.  I think he has his Ancient History down pat.


Without a doubt. :laugh:

Luntz maybe worried...but maybe the pollsters will be forced to create more accurate polls and quit trying to shape public opinion. Of course I am an optimist.

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Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: If Trump defies polls again 'my profession is done'
« Reply #45 on: October 27, 2020, 12:39:16 pm »
Perhaps there is a future for Frank with a shovel.

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Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: If Trump defies polls again 'my profession is done'
« Reply #46 on: October 27, 2020, 02:09:31 pm »
Perhaps there is a future for Frank with a shovel.

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Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: If Trump defies polls again 'my profession is done'
« Reply #47 on: October 27, 2020, 02:12:09 pm »
Perhaps there is a future for Frank with a shovel.

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He can always learn how to write code, like Joe Biden suggested coal miners do.   :laugh:
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Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: If Trump defies polls again 'my profession is done'
« Reply #48 on: October 27, 2020, 03:25:44 pm »

I've always wanted to go to college.
The world needs ditch diggers, too.
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Re: Pollster Frank Luntz: If Trump defies polls again 'my profession is done'
« Reply #49 on: October 27, 2020, 06:12:12 pm »
Frank Luntz has nothing to concern himself about.
Buffoon Trump lost the pop vote to Hilarity by 3,000,000 and will
lose to Clown Biden by at least 15,000,000 for a simple reason.
He is his own mortal enemy, w/o character and the ability to lead,
whose "accomplishments" wouldn't fill the bottom of a thimble.
Four years of insults, smirks and tweets have exhausted plain people
who want him 'disappeared'! His Disciples will rant and rage; so what?
Time for the emergence of a Party of Principle is long overdue!!!

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