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Black professor insists 'Proud Boys aren't white supremacists' as Trump takes flak
Washington Times, Sep 20, 2020

It turns out not everybody believes the Proud Boys are white supremacists, including a prominent Black professor at a historically Black university.

Wilfred Reilly, associate professor of political science at Kentucky State University, said Wednesday that “the Proud Boys aren’t white supremacists,” describing the right-wing group’s beliefs as “Western chauvinist” and noting that their international chairman, Enrique Tarrio, is Black.

“Gotta say: the Proud Boys aren’t white supremacists,” tweeted Mr. Reilly, author of “Hate Crime Hoax.”

The Proud Boys came under the microscope after President Trump refused during Tuesday’s presidential debate to condemn them as white supremacists, saying, “Proud Boys — stand back and stand by,” prompting accusations that he was supporting virulent racists.

Mr. Reilly said that about 10% to 20% of Proud Boys activists are people of color, a diverse racial composition that is “extremely well-known in law enforcement,” based on his research.

“Enrique Tarrio, their overall leader, is a Black Cuban dude. The Proud Boys explicitly say they’re not racist,” Mr. Reilly told The Washington Times. “They are an openly right-leaning group and they’ll openly fight you — they don’t deny any of this — but saying they’re White supremacist: If you’re talking about a group of people more than 10% people of color and headed by an Afro-Latino guy, that doesn’t make sense.”

White House spokeswoman Alysa Farah pushed back on the criticism, saying, “I don’t think there’s anything to clarify. He’s told them to stand back.”

Black Trump supporter Melissa Tate also challenged the “white supremacist” label, posting a video in which she and Beverly Beatty said that the Proud Boys helped provide security for them at a Christian prayer event.


More:  https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/sep/30/wilfred-reilly-insists-proud-boys-arent-white-supr/

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Core Values Of The Proud Boys

Minimal Government
Maximum Freedom
Anti-Political Correctness
Anti-Drug War
Closed Borders
Anti-Racial Guilt
Anti-Racism
Pro-Free Speech (1st Amendment)
Pro-Gun Rights (2nd Amendment)
Glorifying the Entrepreneur
Venerating the Housewife
Reinstating a Spirit of Western Chauvinism

https://proudboysusa.com/tenets/

I had not heard of this group before Biden labeled them a white supremacist group.   :shrug:

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I had not heard of this group before Biden labeled them a white supremacist group.   :shrug:

In reading over that list, who knew I was a proud boy? Sound like regular patriotic Americans to me.


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Sound like regular patriotic Americans to me.

Which is why Democrats hate them.
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In reading over that list, who knew I was a proud boy? Sound like regular patriotic Americans to me.
Sounds the same to me.
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In reading over that list, who knew I was a proud boy? Sound like regular patriotic Americans to me.
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Black Chairman of Proud Boys Speaks Out after Liars Joe Biden and Chris Wallace Call Them White Supremacists
By Jim Hoft
Published September 30, 2020 at 9:21pm

For months now violent leftists, antifa terrorists and Black Lives Matter have been torching businesses, terrorizing communities, shooting cops, looting stores and rioting in cities across America.

But at last night’s debate Chris Wallace demanded that President Trump denounce white supremacist violence in our streets. And Joe Biden added that Trump needed to condemn the white supremacist Proud Boys group.

This was an atrocious lie.

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In reading over that list, who knew I was a proud boy? Sound like regular patriotic Americans to me.

How many regular patriotic Americans get labeled as extremist groups by the FBI?

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How many regular patriotic Americans get labeled as extremist groups by the FBI?

How many people feel the need to repeat two-year-old lies about the Proud Boys being labeled an extremist group by the FBI?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/12/08/fbi-says-proud-boys-are-not-an-extremist-group-after-all/

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How many people feel the need to repeat two-year-old lies about the Proud Boys being labeled an extremist group by the FBI?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/12/08/fbi-says-proud-boys-are-not-an-extremist-group-after-all/

Twisted the kitty's head right off there.... :laugh:
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How many people feel the need to repeat two-year-old lies about the Proud Boys being labeled an extremist group by the FBI?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/12/08/fbi-says-proud-boys-are-not-an-extremist-group-after-all/

I stand corrected.  I'm sure they're a standup group of guys. </sarcasm>

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How many people feel the need to repeat two-year-old lies about the Proud Boys being labeled an extremist group by the FBI?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/12/08/fbi-says-proud-boys-are-not-an-extremist-group-after-all/
This frantic focus on indiscernible white supremacist groups by the rat media is surreal, given we’ve been watching left wing groups burn beat and kill their way through US cities for five months now.

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This frantic focus on indiscernible white supremacist groups by the rat media is surreal, given we’ve been watching left wing groups burn beat and kill their way through US cities for five months now.

Those lefties are the animals the Rats, and their willing accomplices in the press, are trying to call "white supremacists."
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Black Chairman of Proud Boys Speaks Out after Liars Joe Biden and Chris Wallace Call Them White Supremacists
By Jim Hoft
Published September 30, 2020 at 9:21pm

 

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Wouldn't it be GREAT if Trump were to tell the audience at his next rally that he was a fan of the racist leader of the racist "Proud Boys",and called him up on stage to say a few words?

AND.......that he did it when the tv cameras were running?
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How many regular patriotic Americans get labeled as extremist groups by the FBI?
Consider the Communists at the SPLC have been deemed "experts" as to who is or isn't a "hate group" or "extremist" on the Right, and that they have fed the Federal Government their version of who is or isn't an extremist or hate group, and I have little doubt that there are quite a few who have been lumped in with the relatively few really nasty groups out there. Note Wallace included "Militia" groups in his insistence on denouncement and Biden deflected blame from the Communists and anarchists of Antifa.

The obvious point being that the Communists would have the president denounce any patriotic American group in an attempt to verbally trap him into having to take action against people who would defend their lives and country from the internal attacks that have been going on in leftist cities.

That the head of the FBI is denouncing patriotic groups comes as no surprise. He should be replaced.

But underlying all this is the tendency for the SPLC to label anyone on the right and vocal as a "hate group" or an "extremist group" laying the groundwork for calling them racist as well.
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I stand corrected.  I'm sure they're a standup group of guys. </sarcasm>

And this boys and girls is a textbook example of leftist dishonesty.  In this situation, a person of integrity would recognize the discrepancy between their claim and truth, acknowledge their claim was not factual, use the opportunity to set the record straight, and make an effort in the future to incorporate this newly discovered truth in shaping their arguments.

But not with liberals who detest truth.  They fail to acknowledge that their claim is bogus, offering instead some snide retort and hoping that their next effort to troll some Conservative website with the same lie will not be challenged as it has been here.
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And this boys and girls is a textbook example of leftist dishonesty.  In this situation, a person of integrity would recognize the discrepancy between their claim and truth, acknowledge their claim was not factual, use the opportunity to set the record straight, and make an effort in the future to incorporate this newly discovered truth in shaping their arguments.

But not with liberals who detest truth.  They fail to acknowledge that their claim is bogus, offering instead some snide retort and hoping that their next effort to troll some Conservative website with the same lie will not be challenged as it has been here.

That was as good a summary I've seen of the sentiments expressed in the post you quoted.
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And this boys and girls is a textbook example of leftist dishonesty.  In this situation, a person of integrity would recognize the discrepancy between their claim and truth, acknowledge their claim was not factual, use the opportunity to set the record straight, and make an effort in the future to incorporate this newly discovered truth in shaping their arguments.

But not with liberals who detest truth.  They fail to acknowledge that their claim is bogus, offering instead some snide retort and hoping that their next effort to troll some Conservative website with the same lie will not be challenged as it has been here.
yeah, it was a pretty limp deflection.

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And this boys and girls is a textbook example of leftist dishonesty.  In this situation, a person of integrity would recognize the discrepancy between their claim and truth, acknowledge their claim was not factual, use the opportunity to set the record straight, and make an effort in the future to incorporate this newly discovered truth in shaping their arguments.

What part of "I stand corrected" did you not understand?


But not with liberals who detest truth.  They fail to acknowledge that their claim is bogus, offering instead some snide retort and hoping that their next effort to troll some Conservative website with the same lie will not be challenged as it has been here.

Just because I was wrong about the white supremacy, and freely admitted my error, doesn't mean that I can't think that they are anything but low-life thugs.  How much more truthful do I need to be?