Chicago Police Seek Federal Prosecutions For Looters, Rioters

[PeteS in CA]

Chicago Police Seek Federal Prosecutions For Looters, Rioters

https://hotair.com/archives/jazz-shaw/2020/08/16/chicago-police-seek-federal-prosecutions-looters-rioters/

Following the destruction and looting of the Magnificent Mile in Chicago, there’s been a curious lack of interest in prosecuting the offenders on the part of the Cook County State’s Attorney. That would be Kim Foxx, who many of you are likely familiar with from her involvement in the Jussie Smollett fiasco. With few signs that her office is taking the charges seriously or has any intention of holding many of the rioters accountable, the Chicago Fraternal Order of Police sent a letter to U.S. Attorney John R. Lausch Jr. to request prosecution of the rioters on federal charges. But even assuming that the U.S. Attorney’s office has the resources to handle all of these cases, it’s not yet clear precisely what federal charges would be applicable.

With Kim Foxx refusing to do her duty, probably for political-racial reasons, I'm sympathetic. But as Jazz Shaw points out, there may not be a Federal crime with which the looters could be charged. One of the underlying assumptions in the USC's Federalism is that states' and cities' officials would do their jobs. So this is likely to be a symbolic gesture, an attempt to shame the shameless Kim Foxx into doing her duty.

[SZonian]

What happened in Chicago was what is called a "flash mob"...has happened before, but normally targeting a single store or shop.

BLM and Antifa should be gone after under RICO or domestic terrorism.

[Fishrrman]

Posted this before, will repeat:

When the...
...municipal police won't protect the citizens any longer;
...state police won't protect the citizens any longer;
...mayor won't protect the citizens any longer;
...district attorney's office won't protect the citizens any longer;
...The governor won't protect the citizens any longer...

Who WILL protect them, to provide and to guarantee the "domestic tranquility" that the preamble to the Constitution specifies...?

Who is left to do this...?

[Smokin Joe]

Posted this before, will repeat:

When the...
...municipal police won't protect the citizens any longer;
...state police won't protect the citizens any longer;
...mayor won't protect the citizens any longer;
...district attorney's office won't protect the citizens any longer;
...The governor won't protect the citizens any longer...

Who WILL protect them, to provide and to guarantee the "domestic tranquility" that the preamble to the Constitution specifies...?

Who is left to do this...?

The citizens. When that starts, it will get messy.

[goatprairie]

Posted this before, will repeat:

When the...
...municipal police won't protect the citizens any longer;
...state police won't protect the citizens any longer;
...mayor won't protect the citizens any longer;
...district attorney's office won't protect the citizens any longer;
...The governor won't protect the citizens any longer...

Who WILL protect them, to provide and to guarantee the "domestic tranquility" that the preamble to the Constitution specifies...?

Who is left to do this...?

There are plenty of federal laws that were designed to protect the civil rights of the average citizen. That's why we have the first ten amendments i.e. The Bill of Rights.
If the powers of the individual states fail to protect their citizens, the fed. gov. is obliged to step in.

[Smokin Joe]

There are plenty of federal laws that were designed to protect the civil rights of the average citizen. That's why we have the first ten amendments i.e. The Bill of Rights.
If the powers of the individual states fail to protect their citizens, the fed. gov. is obliged to step in.

All the laws in all the lawbooks will not stop one punk from looting, burning, beating, robbing and even murdering anyone.  There comes a time in the situation where talking (and whining) are over, when the only thing which will stop that force is a superior or better used counter force.

Does anyone know how many cities are experiencing organized violence at this point? Not just the run of the mill murder, theft, and mayhem found in (often Democrat run) cities, but on the order of what we've seen in Portland, Seattle, Chicago, and elsewhere these Communists have established urban war zones with open season on whatever victims they choose while the governments of those cities and even States sit back and allow this?
 
Every snake has a head, and the tails are thrashing in the streets.
 
How much of this does America have to put up with before we forget we are a civil people and eliminate this threat, once and for all? 

[EdinVA]

The citizens. When that starts, it will get messy.

But it will get solved...

[goatprairie]

All the laws in all the lawbooks will not stop one punk from looting, burning, beating, robbing and even murdering anyone.  There comes a time in the situation where talking (and whining) are over, when the only thing which will stop that force is a superior or better used counter force.

Does anyone know how many cities are experiencing organized violence at this point? Not just the run of the mill murder, theft, and mayhem found in (often Democrat run) cities, but on the order of what we've seen in Portland, Seattle, Chicago, and elsewhere these Communists have established urban war zones with open season on whatever victims they choose while the governments of those cities and even States sit back and allow this?
 
Every snake has a head, and the tails are thrashing in the streets.
 
How much of this does America have to put up with before we forget we are a civil people and eliminate this threat, once and for all?

Who is "we"?
What do we have a federal gov. for?
Sure, you have the right to defend yourself.
But to rely on groups of private citizens to defend the rights of mass numbers of average citizens whose civil rights are being denied just will not happen.
That is what the federal gov. is for. This is why your civil rights are enumerated in the constitution.

[Smokin Joe]

Who is "we"?
What do we have a federal gov. for?
Sure, you have the right to defend yourself.
But to rely on groups of private citizens to defend the rights of mass numbers of average citizens whose civil rights are being denied just will not happen.
That is what the federal gov. is for. This is why your civil rights are enumerated in the constitution.

Do we not have a Right to self-defense? Bring that sh*t down my street and we can have a test case.
The Federal Government is there to protect those Rights, from being infringed by foreign entities, the States, and itself.

It is up to us to exercise those Rights when need be.

In the end, all that bulk of paper can do is provide cover if stacked correctly.

[Fishrrman]

Smokin' Joe cries out:
"How much of this does America have to put up with before we forget we are a civil people and eliminate this threat, once and for all?"

A good question.
But the answer is difficult.
Not particularly difficult to do, but one that isn't so easy for moral men to swallow.

It's going to be difficult because committed communists/leftists generally believe as fervently in their cause as do jihadi muslims believe in theirs.

It going to be well-nigh impossible to persuade them to reconsider and disabuse themselves of such notions. We can restrain them physically, but let them go and they'll revert back to their previous behavior. Did we not see exactly this with some of the detainees held at Guantanamo?

There's generally only one way to "stop" a jihadi and guarantee that he won't try to attack you again. You know what that is.

And so it's going to be with the communists.
Ahem... what's that old saying from the fifties, "the only good communist is...??"

I'm not saying they're like this to the very last man. There are notable instances of ex-communists who left the party, and in many cases they become some of the most strident voices against marxism (read about the life of red-diaper baby David Horowitz, as documented in his excellent book "Radical Son").

So it is with ex-muslims as well, particularly those who have converted to Christianity. They've seen the evil of that cult from the inside, and know what they're talking about.

But these few are the exceptions.
The overwhelming majority of marxists are "of the party" until death.
If that's the way it is, so be it.
How else will they be stopped?

[Smokin Joe]

Smokin' Joe cries out:
"How much of this does America have to put up with before we forget we are a civil people and eliminate this threat, once and for all?"

A good question.
But the answer is difficult.
Not particularly difficult to do, but one that isn't so easy for moral men to swallow.

It's going to be difficult because committed communists/leftists generally believe as fervently in their cause as do jihadi muslims believe in theirs.

It going to be well-nigh impossible to persuade them to reconsider and disabuse themselves of such notions. We can restrain them physically, but let them go and they'll revert back to their previous behavior. Did we not see exactly this with some of the detainees held at Guantanamo?

There's generally only one way to "stop" a jihadi and guarantee that he won't try to attack you again. You know what that is.

And so it's going to be with the communists.
Ahem... what's that old saying from the fifties, "the only good communist is...??"

I'm not saying they're like this to the very last man. There are notable instances of ex-communists who left the party, and in many cases they become some of the most strident voices against marxism (read about the life of red-diaper baby David Horowitz, as documented in his excellent book "Radical Son").

So it is with ex-muslims as well, particularly those who have converted to Christianity. They've seen the evil of that cult from the inside, and know what they're talking about.

But these few are the exceptions.
The overwhelming majority of marxists are "of the party" until death.
If that's the way it is, so be it.
How else will they be stopped?

Unfortunately, many people will have to arrive at that logical point before they can act in concert to stop the threat. If only one does, many will quail from the unpleasant task and, in their horror, lose resolve.

[jafo2010]

First, extradite George Soros to Hungary, where they will try him for capital crimes.  If his children are naturalized, deport them to where they came from.

Then announce to America, forthwith, all looters will be shot on sight.  And I do mean every last one of them.  Problem solved and we return to peace and quiet.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Posted this before, will repeat:

When the...
...municipal police won't protect the citizens any longer;
...state police won't protect the citizens any longer;
...mayor won't protect the citizens any longer;
...district attorney's office won't protect the citizens any longer;
...The governor won't protect the citizens any longer...

Who WILL protect them, to provide and to guarantee the "domestic tranquility" that the preamble to the Constitution specifies...?

Who is left to do this...?

Feds I guess... then Americans themselves.

[Hoodat]

Then announce to America, forthwith, all looters will be shot on sight.  And I do mean every last one of them.  Problem solved and we return to peace and quiet.

This is a very effective strategy.  And one that will result in fewer deaths than we have had so far.

[240B]

My point from the beginning has always been, if the governors, mayors, and police chiefs, in all these Liberal cities do not care if their cities are burned down, then why should I?

I think it was always a setup to bait Trump into getting involved. If Trump were to send forces to stop the destruction, that would give the governors, mayors, and police chiefs, a platform to stand on a soapbox and give speech after speech condemning Trump and his administration.

In the world of Liberals, this would make them martyrs and heroes against the tyranny of Trump. Even though Trump is only trying to help the citizens of their cities by stopping the chaos. All of this is all directed at damaging Trump.

However, from my point of view, it has backfired in a big way because Trump did not fall for their trap. Now Democrats are known nationally as the Party of riots and anarchy.

[sneakypete]

What happened in Chicago was what is called a "flash mob"...has happened before, but normally targeting a single store or shop.

BLM and Antifa should be gone after under RICO or domestic terrorism.

@SZonian

Not to mention old-fashioned arson,attempted murder,murder,inciting a riot,being ugly in a no-ugly zone,etc,etc,etc.

[sneakypete]

Posted this before, will repeat:

When the...
...municipal police won't protect the citizens any longer;
...state police won't protect the citizens any longer;
...mayor won't protect the citizens any longer;
...district attorney's office won't protect the citizens any longer;
...The governor won't protect the citizens any longer...

Who WILL protect them, to provide and to guarantee the "domestic tranquility" that the preamble to the Constitution specifies...?

Who is left to do this...?

@Fishrrman

The same ones who have ALWAYS been responsible for such things,and who hired people called "police" to do it for them as a matter of convenience. When our hired employees refuse to do the job they were hired to do,they get fired and we do it ourselves.

"We,the people" are the ultimate authority.

[sneakypete]

My point from the beginning has always been, if the governors, mayors, and police chiefs, in all these Liberal cities do not care if their cities are burned down, then why should I?

I think it was always a setup to bait Trump into getting involved. If Trump were to send forces to stop the destruction, that would give the governors, mayors, and police chiefs, a platform to stand on a soapbox and give speech after speech condemning Trump and his administration.

In the world of Liberals, this would make them martyrs and heroes against the tyranny of Trump. Even though Trump is only trying to help the citizens of their cities by stopping the chaos. All of this is all directed at damaging Trump.

However, from my point of view, it has backfired in a big way because Trump did not fall for their trap. Now Democrats are known nationally as the Party of riots and anarchy.

@240B

And there it is. All of it.

[sneakypete]

@PeteS in CA

The rest of America ain't Chicago's daddy. Local crime is local crime,and it is the responsibility of the local authorities to deal with it.

Or not,and then just learn to live with it.

We are America,not Communist China,the old USSR,or Nazi Germany.