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Medical experts urge US to shut down and start over as coronavirus cases surpass 4 million

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As the numbers climb, more than 150 prominent US medical experts, scientists, teachers, nurses and others have signed a letter to political leaders urging them to shut down the country and start over to contain the surging coronavirus pandemic.

"Right now we are on a path to lose more than 200,000 American lives by November 1st. Yet, in many states people can drink in bars, get a haircut, eat inside a restaurant, get a tattoo, get a massage, and do myriad other normal, pleasant, but non-essential activities," the letter said.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/24/health/us-coronavirus-friday/index.html


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I have three words for the suggestion  that this country shut down: 

Oh
Hell
No

And who the H are these people to determine what is and isn't an "essential activity?"

These people can all kiss my fat fanny.

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So Bill Gates is now a medical expert?  yea, right...

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So Bill Gates is now a medical expert?  yea, right...

With his money he could be a Chinese jet pilot.

Apologies to Bruce Campbell.

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Okay I'll use my state as an example.

1.1 % of the poulation has caught it

Of those 1.2% have died. 

And of those, more than 50% were from nursing homes and other care faciities? 

Insanity.
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Will the people accept another 'shut down'?  I pray they won't but....

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Okay I'll use my state as an example.

1.1 % of the poulation has caught it

Of those 1.2% have died. 

And of those, more than 50% were from nursing homes and other care faciities? 

Insanity.

My state has suffered an overall .0002 Covid mortality rate. Mostly very compromised, very senior citizens.

For that the 5th largest economy in the world has been slammed shut. Insanity indeed.


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Every day, the local news has another doom and gloom report on the number of new cases and how many have died since the day before.  But I was reading some statistics for test results  broken down by county.  There are still far more negative test results than positive.  And no one can tell us of those daily new numbers, how many of the deceased were elderly and/or chronically ill and of the new cases, how many were asymptomatic, how many were hospitalized or recovering at home, etc. 

Pennsylvania was already caught once including "suspected" cases of COVID with the "confirmed" cases.  I suspect the state is still doing it.  Nowadays, anyone with a sniffle is counted as a COVID case with no proof.  And I still suspect that these tests are producing at least some false positives.

But no one will look into these issues.  The local governments accept the doom and gloom stats as fact without really checking them and use these stats to justify their dictatorial pronouncements.

And whatever happened to investigative journalism?  Isn't there any crack reporter willing to dig deeper into these numbers and maybe expose fraud?  Or have they all been threatened into silence? 

I believe if these politicians try to force another lockdown like the one we had in March, there will be an uprising.  People were scared enough to go along with isolation for a time, but once they tasted freedom, you can be sure many will fight like hell to stay out of prison this time.

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Okay I'll use my state as an example.

1.1 % of the poulation has caught it

Of those 1.2% have died. 

And of those, more than 50% were from nursing homes and other care faciities? 

Insanity.

Compare to 1919 0.5% of the US Population actually died.
In today,s terms, that would mean 1.64 million.
Current deaths attributed to COVID are 147K.
over 10 times less than 1919.

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Compare to 1919 0.5% of the US Population actually died.
In today,s terms, that would mean 1.64 million.
Current deaths attributed to COVID are 147K.
over 10 times less than 1919.

Just for S & G's , I checked some flu news (newspaper.com) from that time frame.  There was a lot of depsair, but there was no where near the hysteria then vs, now.  Maybe then people were more numb to the eneviability of diseases, as they were obvioulsy more common.
« Last Edit: July 24, 2020, 03:03:48 pm by catfish1957 »
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Just for S & G's , I checked some flu news from that time frame.  There was a lot of depsair, but there was no where near the hysteria then vs, now.  Maybe then people were more numb to the eneviability of diseases, as they were obvioulsy more common.

They didn't have a 24/7/365 "news" cycle and instant communications back then to gin up the fear.
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Just for S & G's , I checked some flu news from that time frame.  There was a lot of depsair, but there was no where near the hysteria then vs, now.  Maybe then people were more numb to the eneviability of diseases, as they were obvioulsy more common.

I suspect the democrats/media of the day saw the virus as the primary threat, not the republicans.

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Some people take their Hippocratic oath seriously, and others do not.  These "experts" should be standing in a breadline.

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These "experts" are idiots.

People need to get it in great numbers and get it behind us.

The only critical issue is not overloading the hospitals to the point that they have to do triage.

If you are going to get it, what difference does it make if it is today or three months from now? You can't hide out forever.

As long as we have the medical resources to take care of everyone we need to continue developing our herd immunity.

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So Bill Gates is now a medical expert?  yea, right...
Running the clock until he an have a vaccine to require....
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These "experts" are idiots.

People need to get it in great numbers and get it behind us.

The only critical issue is not overloading the hospitals to the point that they have to do triage.

If you are going to get it, what difference does it make if it is today or three months from now? You can't hide out forever.

As long as we have the medical resources to take care of everyone we need to continue developing our herd immunity.
Make COVID meds OTC, or at east a hone in. One regimen, with instructions, should be under 50 bucks, and can be taken at home (HCQ/Zithromax/Zinc).
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
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Running the clock until he an have a vaccine to require....
Now Gates is admitting that a vaccine is unlikely. So now it'll be multiple rounds of vaccines! Maybe eventually they'll stick...
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Now Gates is admitting that a vaccine is unlikely. So now it'll be multiple rounds of vaccines! Maybe eventually they'll stick...
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

And eff the human race. Georgia Guidestones say they have to kill 13 of every 14 on the planet to hit their goal, and keep killing to keep it there.
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Make COVID meds OTC, or at east a hone in. One regimen, with instructions, should be under 50 bucks, and can be taken at home (HCQ/Zithromax/Zinc).

The medical community can't have that. They are the gate keepers and must be given their due.

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Ok, it looks like the link I cited originally is no longer valid; it takes you to another story about the vaccine.  So here is another link to the story about the letter urging shutdown:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/23/health/shutdown-us-contain-coronavirus-wellness/index.html


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The end game for all this nonsense is a mail-in election where the communist party takes over the states and federal government.  The MSM is engineering this whole show.

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The end game for all this nonsense is a mail-in election where the communist party takes over the states and federal government.  The MSM is engineering this whole show.

The left knows they couldn't defeat Trump any other way... so Covid-19 conveniently is released and destroys Trump's economy.   Shutdowns and lockdowns keep the economy tanked.  But they have, as usual, over-reached.   The anarchy and chaos in the streets will backfire in three months.... as people connect the dots re: how lawless things will be if the DemocRats win.  And the rats will get national mail-in balloting over my (and others') dead bodies.   Hell to the no to that.

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The end game for all this nonsense is a mail-in election where the communist party takes over the states and federal government.  The MSM is engineering this whole show.

 :yowsa: Following the directions of their masters in the Democrat party an the CCP.
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